You really don't ready my posts, right ? Arab is not a race. Arabs today are people who speak Arabic. They are of diff. races. Algerians, Libyians, Sudanese, Egyptians, Jordinian, Syrian, Somalians, Saudi Arabians are of diff. races, colors, ect.. Nigerians speak English, does that make them British ?
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Arabs is a general term, today, for all of the Arabized peoples who live in the middle east. After Al Bakr and Omar's occupation of the middle east in the early days of the al-Rashidun caliphate a huge influx of Arab (ethnic Arabs) migrated from the Arab peninsula to every corner of the newly-conquered empire, including Egypt. And before that, the Egyptians were already 'mixed': Greeks, Nubians, Libyans, Canaanites, Persians and so on mixed with the local populations. Claiming you are Egyptian for 7,000 years is a bit far fetched. You don't know that, you might be a descended of an Arab tribe from Saudi Arabia who migrated to Egypt 300 years ago (like happened in Palestine, to which several tribes migrated in the 17th-16th century). I might be a descended of Berber converts. I don't know, and I'm not arrogant enough to claim I do.
OMG, not again.... Egypt Plan was built on the fact that Israel is a small country, and can't survive a long war, and too many casualties. The plan was to start a war, 1) Occupy the whole area across the Suez Canal. 3) Make the war last aslong as it can. 3) Force Israel to accept a ceasefire with them giving up the lands they occupied on 1967. Egypt forces occupied from 12-15 KM deep inside Sinai 193 KM across the Suez Canal, after 7 days of fighting, and didn't give it up till NOW. You can do the calculation yourself, and see if Egypt gained any territories or not. Your counter attack only forced Egypt to accept the ceasefire early, but it didn't give you back the land that you lost. It didn't make any of Egypt's 2 armies to surrender.... I am not saying Egypt destroyed your illegal state, but you guys make it seem that your brave soliders, did this and that, and actually all you did was make us to accept a ceasefire, and right after the ceasefire your forces that crossed the Canal withdrew... The war forced you to give Sinai back, because you knew we won't stop killing your "men" you give up the Egypian lands you occupied after 1967.. I have a video(pre 1973) of your late prime minster saying that she will not give Sinai back, and only after the war she agreed to give it back.
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Lets exemine the Egyptian goals according to you:
Golda Meir did not give up Sinai. Israel, being a democracy, elects every 4 years a new prime minister. After the Golda's term, Menahem Begin was elected - and he chose to return Sinai for peace.
That is not correct sir! Arabic migration to Egypt is well documented. all the tribes are known. Some even migrated before Islam. Those tribes still exist, and most live in Sinai, and the Western desert. Egypt became a Muslim Majority country more than 300 years after Arab controed Egypt. Egyptian Arabic was not considered prober Arabic by the Arabs up unti 1700. It wasn't until Moahmed Ai Era(1805-1948) that Egyptians started to learn prober Arabic... The vast majority of Egyptians(Muslims or Christians) are not of Greek, Nubian, Libyan, Persian, Canaanites, ect.. The vast majority are Egyptians whom ancestors been farmers for about 7000 years ago. Ofcourse we coud be mixed with this and that, but why say that when histroy doesn't mention anything about it ?..... Little info, Arabs didn't marry Egyptians didn't marry Egyptians when they came to Egypt, even till now, Arabic tribes in Egypt only marry from eachother.
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First goal was achieved, Egypt controlled 193 KM across the Suez Canal, 12-15 KM deep inside Sinai. Egypt gained way more and that what it gave up, do the math... Second was party achieved since the war lasted for about 3 weeks, compared to 6 days in the previous war. Egypt plan was to make the war last for 6 months, but your counter attack forced us to accept ceasefire. You also could in no way have destroyed Egypt Third army, Egypt woud have withdrew forces from the East, and destroy your forces out West, too bad Sadat refused El-Shazy's plan. Third goal was party achieved since you agreed to negogiate to give up Sinai and make peace athu your prime minster said couple of years earlier that she won't, SAME prime minster... Egypt can take human loss, we are a big country, you guys can't. Also, those numbers are not correct. What what the percentage of the of your casualties of your total poulation back then ?Lets exemine the Egyptian goals according to you:
"1) Occupy the whole area across the Suez Canal." -This goal was not achieved:
"2) Make the war last aslong as it can" -This goal was not achieved. Egypt was forced to sign ceasefire with Israel in order to save it's 3rd Army - which consisted of more than 100,000 soldiers - who would've otherwise been destroyed by the IDF.
"3) Force Israel to accept a ceasefire with them giving up the lands they occupied on 1967." -This goal was not achieved, as the map above tells us.
So lets conclude: zero goals achieved out of three, more territory was lost than territory gained, the capital city was threatened and only Western pressure prevented Israel from occupying it, the casualties are in ratio of 5:1 although the Egyptians had more men and the surprise factor. The obvious conclusion is: An utter defeat.
Golda Meir did not give up Sinai. Israel, being a democracy, elects every 4 years a new prime minister. After the Golda's term, Menahem Begin was elected - and he chose to return Sinai for peace.
I'm done here as far as I'm concerned.
Elaborate please?
