Iran backed Zainebiyoun brigade composed of Pakistani Shia guarding the Baghdad Damascus highway

[Trango Towers]

They don't serve iran . just consider zeynabioun and fatemioun as some sort of security company . they are employed there .


Didn't some joined ISIS ?


No they were not.

Yes and I am stupid

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Filth.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Yes and I am stupid

We are all stupid, we let them get away with using/brainwashing our citizens to murder Sunnis in Syria and Iraq. Shame on us.

But they are just a security company, like your local chowkidar, so its OK. Lol.

 

[Hack-Hook]

A Pakistani fighting in Syria for an invading country Iran makes no sense and eventually these people cause trouble for the entire country .

When And how iran invaded Syria ?

Yes and I am stupid

Yes if you think they are different from the one who employed them for other reason. They are in Syria for the money not anything else . how come Iranian money is bad but others is good ?

We are all stupid, we let them get away with using/brainwashing our citizens to murder Sunnis in Syria and Iraq. Shame on us.

But they are just a security company, like your local chowkidar, so its OK. Lol.

That's what I call sectarian mindset.
In Iraq they only fought ISIS . and Syria is a secular country. Talking about Shia and Sunni there is laughable. And zeynabioun and fatemioun there are fighting sectarian groups like HTS and ISIS.

 

[xenon54 out]

Didn't some joined ISIS ?

Exceptions make the rule.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Exceptions make the rule.

Well the Pakistani that joined fatemioun are also can be considered an exception.

 

[BAGAR_BILLA]

This is the only way to defend Iranian crimes against sovereignty of Pakistan...

Subject is not related to the slavery, it's about crimes of Iran against sovereignty of Pakistan.

ButtMan !
Who said Pakistan a Sovereign State ?
Pakistan is puppet of Saudi & US..

Why Riyal Sharif went for killing Yemeni People ? Whose Order ? Saudi Badus ?

Mard e Momin went to Jorden to kill Palestines on Black September

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September
https://www.thenews.com.pk/archive/print/253919-zia-and-the-palestinians

 

[Serpentine]

Government of Pakistan should cancel their passports and Iran should keep them.

Almost all of them have lived in Iran for years or decades, and hopefully, many will be given citizenship. They are not Pakistan's concern anymore imo.

 

[QWECXZ]

As a possible solution to the problem, I suggest Pakistan to officially and completely cut her ties with Iran and declare traveling to Iran forbidden.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Why are we fighting amongst one another when the solution is infront of our eyes... as nationalist we know what the solution is against Iran and we know arguing fighting amonst eachother will only lead to our downfall...

How abt we come up with a strategic/military solution to the Iranian problem... we are a PAKISTANI DEFENCE forum...mods know anyone who is pro shia and speaks up where there interest lie so they should be banned... the rest of us can discuss the best solution in battle...

Some pro iranian elements on this forum seem to be deliberately causing chaos... in which case it should be the mods job to enforce the laws of our PAKISTANI DEFENCE forum

even the starter of thread is pro shiite ,how many clues does one need he is pro assad alawi shiite a war crimnal ,is that benificial for PAK defence,this website needs proper moding our posts get deleted when we mention this ,anyone that is pro iran should be classed as the enemy.

There is a difference between being being pro-Iran and pro-Shia.

Attacks or abuse of an entire community (such as Shia) will not be tolerated. This has been pointed out before.

Criticism of the Iranian regime or Saudi Regime is acceptable. Derogatory comments about all Shia or all Sunni or all Iranians or all Saudis are not acceptable. This is forum policy.

The only solution I see to this problem is mass arrests and giving severe punishments to those zakirs who are singing songs for Iran. They should be treated the same way as TTP and within a year everything will fall back in place.

That’s ludicrous.

We haven’t gone after the PTM leadership that openly abuses the country, constitution, meets with Afghan govt, military & intelligence leadership and spews racism, because that is still considerd freedom of speech, so why would we go after Zakirs?

 

[Safriz]

Just to make sure, Bahrain was an Iran/Arab issue so we should have stayed neutral and not sent mercenaries by your logic, right?

Typical distortion of facts.
The Pakistani working in Bahrain police are Bahrain government employees. Same as plenty of foreign workers in Bahrain..
There's no religious sentiments involved, just a job .
Shia are creating law and order situation in Bahrain, so are being dealt by the Bahrain police, same as any other criminal.
They are performing their duties inside Bahrain without interfering in another country . So they are not mercenaries, but workers. All over tye world police forces employ foreign nationals or non local ethnicity.
The Iranian mercenaries you are so desperately defending are not Iranian government employees, are not policemen. They are not even deployed in Iran but a foreign country Syria
So Iran instead of using own people to interfere in Syria and being used as cannon fodder , has fooled some already stupid Pakistanis under disguise of Shia religious sentiments and used them to invade another country.
That's the pure definition of mercenary.

You can’t just ignore the importance of having laws. Under what constitutional cover will individuals who technically haven’t committed a crime in Pakistan be held and punished? The Supreme Court is hearing petitions to release individuals that were arrested due to links with terrorist groups committing terrorism in Pakistan. These individuals were released by lower courts.

What do you think will happen if these people are arrested with no laws on the books?

Pakistani courts follow English law when there's no Pakistani law available.
In England all British citizens who go to fight in Syria or any foreign country are booked under terrorism laws and passports taken away.
When their family members are arrested and questioned.
Plenty of cases available to Google.
So there.

 

[BATMAN]

Almost all of them have lived in Iran for years or decades, and hopefully, many will be given citizenship. They are not Pakistan's concern anymore imo.

Of course you may give them passports or not, that's your prerogative.
Question is why is Pakistan allowing it!

As far these few in video, they must be special who were not sent back during open borders situation at Taftan due to COVID. However this holy war has a history of 10 years and we have thousands, and the question arise, did they refused Iranian passport or they were not loyal enough?

ButtMan !
Who said Pakistan a Sovereign State ?
Pakistan is puppet of Saudi & US..

Why Riyal Sharif went for killing Yemeni People ? Whose Order ? Saudi Badus ?

Mard e Momin went to Jorden to kill Palestines on Black September

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September
https://www.thenews.com.pk/archive/print/253919-zia-and-the-palestinians

So this is your justification... but this is flawed.
Both General Rahil Sharif and General Zia ul Haq must have done some good work against the terrorists, besides the reason you give.

 

[Nein]

They don't serve iran . just consider zeynabioun and fatemioun as some sort of security company . they are employed there .


Didn't some joined ISIS ?


No they were not.

Basically Irans mercs.

Pakistan has every right to terminate their citizenship and treat them enemies of the state. Same for the people who join isis.

Pakistan should treat them all the same. Prison for life, death penalty, taking away citizenship also using the ISI to track any terrorist bastard that goes into Pakistan.

These shia militias are dangerous once they come back to Pakistan either they will be forming terrorist groups or being Proxies for Iran to weaken Pakistan within.

I think a lot of Pakistanis have no problem seeing their traitors getting roasted by Turkish drones.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Typical distortion of facts.
The Pakistani working in Bahrain police are Bahrain government employees. Same as plenty of foreign workers in Bahrain..
There's no religious sentiments involved, just a job .
Shia are creating law and order situation in Bahrain, so are being dealt by the Bahrain police, same as any other criminal.
They are performing their duties inside Bahrain without interfering in another country . So they are not mercenaries, but workers. All over tye world police forces employ foreign nationals or non local ethnicity.
The Iranian mercenaries you are so desperately defending are not Iranian government employees, are not policemen. They are not even deployed in Iran but a foreign country Syria
So Iran instead of using own people to interfere in Syria and being used as cannon fodder , has fooled some already stupid Pakistanis under disguise of Shia religious sentiments and used them to invade another country.
That's the pure definition of mercenary.

Safriz, for the last time. Stop making generalizations about Shia and blaming them without context. The Shia in Bahrain are a majority ruled by a minority autocracy, are they not?

What they are protesting for is proper representation. You don’t have to support them, but don’t vilify them by implying they are some kind of ‘trouble makers’ when all they are doing is something that is completely justified - protesting against an autocratic government.

Pakistani courts follow English law when there's no Pakistani law available.
In England all British citizens who go to fight in Syria or any foreign country are booked under terrorism laws and passports taken away.
When their family members are arrested and questioned.
Plenty of cases available to Google.
So there.

Even if that were true, is Al Zainabiyoun banned in the UK? Family members being questioned is a legitimate part of any investigation. Arrests only occur if there is suspicion of material support by family members for illegal activities.

And let’s keep this in context - the estimates suggests less than a thousand Pakistani members in Liwa Zainabiyoun - many have died and others have been resettled by Iran in Iran. So the actual number that might make it back to Pakistan is pretty small.

Still an issue, no doubt, but let’s not make this recruitment a ‘sky is falling’ campaign and use it as an excuse to vilify and attack all Pakistani Shia, as several members have done on this thread.

 

[BATMAN]

Well the Pakistani that joined fatemioun are also can be considered an exception.

There are two questions, i have.
1- Why Pakistan allowed people to travel to Syria, while it's banned by rest of the world?
2- What is the basis of their hate with Syrian Muslims, specially babies?