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I will not take your first comment personally...
Where did I call "A group" of being Mushrik?
But what I call "Shirk" is the practice of Worshipping... other than ALLAH...

When someone take the time to ask " Something" in a shrine instead of asking ALLAH is shirk...
And what is happening in those Shrine MOST of the time is such practice...
Shrines Invite many to fall in shirk...

Man I am not saying you did. I was talking about people who do so frequently, real life people I know. You're definition of Shirk is correct, however I disagree with the highlighted part because I know that a lot of people simply visit these places to send their peace and blessings upon those personalities. We don't have any concrete statistics on this for obvious reasons so it will just be varying experiences on your part and mine; basically there'll be no conclusion.

But I'll say this, just because of the Mushriks, the non-Mushriks should not suffer. The cause of the issue is not the shrine or the mausoleum but the mushrik mentality, ignorance and literature. We need to fight that.
 
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Grave of prophet Younus (AS) destroyed by ISIL wahhabi zombies:

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10th surah of Quran is named after that great prophet.

http://tanzil.net/#10:1
 
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Iran the biggest enemy of Islam/Muslims after KSA! both are cancer!
 
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Man I am not saying you did. I was talking about people who do so frequently, real life people I know. You're definition of Shirk is correct, however I disagree with the highlighted part because I know that a lot of people simply visit these places to send their peace and blessings upon those personalities. We don't have any concrete statistics on this for obvious reasons so it will just be varying experiences on your part and mine; basically there'll be no conclusion.

But I'll say this, just because of the Mushriks, the non-Mushriks should not suffer. The cause of the issue is not the shrine or the mausoleum but the mushrik mentality, ignorance and literature. We need to fight that.

No "Structure" should be build upon a mud/Dirt grave... NONE.
Shrine in Islam is by definition not allowed...

Building a shrine will give an "Holiness" to that particular "entity"
It will give an opportunity to "some" people to engage in shirk... By thinking to get "Something"...

You can pay your respect and send your blessing to someone...without "Visiting" his grave...and if you do, it will be the standard "Visit" of a grave... that every Human do...

And last Can I have your "opinion" on the Entity of Karbala and the common practice?
That may give you another POV of the situation of such "Structures" and its consequences...
 
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They still butthurt from arabs until today that's why they shout we are Aryans we don't worship arabs it shows how the arab influence is strong even the nationalistic Kurds and Turks are not that hostile toward Islam


But you can't blame them their supreme leader is descendent from muhammad and not from Cyrus,Darius, ardashir , anoshervan or khosrou also they praise the descendants if muhammad they build shrines for them while they don't know were are the graves of their kings


Arab shrines are build with gold and silver while Cyrus grave is built by stones in the middle of nowhere only few people visit him compare to the millions who visit the imamzadeh and imams shrines
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imamzadeh_Saleh,_Shemiran

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Imamzadeh_shrines_and_mosques_in_Iran


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imamzadeh_Hamzah,_Tabriz

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imamzadeh

Even the founder of modern Shia iran claimed the arab ancestor he called himself abu al mozafdmfar shah Ismail bin hayder bin jubair al Musawi al hussaini in order to rule them:lol:

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_I

Well put bro. It's this historical reality for the past 1400 years that I have been eluding too and the influence being rather one-sided when we are discussing Arabs and Iranians. It hurts those people. That's why I have always laughed at such discussions because it is like discussing whether the earth orbits around the sun or not, lol.

But you still didn't answer the question if the imam wants you to protect his grave in what's the point if going to him to ask for help how come you ask the imam to protect you while he needs you to protect his grave?

Imams and good dead people can't give protection or help only god can

Million dollar question, lol. It's called schizophrenia.

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/02/iran-iraq-election-velayati.html

Iranian interference in Iraqi election stirs anger among Iraqis

Ali Akbar Velayati, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's top adviser on international affairs, paid an official visit to Iraq from Feb. 15-18. He made statements on issues related to Iraq's internal affairs, including the upcoming elections, which sparked controversy in the Iraqi political scene.

“We will not allow liberals and communists to govern in Iraq,” Velayati said during a speech Feb. 17 at the Founding Conference of the Iraqi Assembly of Islamic Unity in Baghdad.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/02/iran-iraq-election-velayati.html#ixzz595tCf4qm

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What is this shit?



What I wrote up there are facts, the Shah was arrogant like the Kurds were given the strong US support. He started bullying his western neighbor with his superior navy in the waterway. Kuwait caused Iraq problems with slant drilling.

Now you may say Saddam's reactions are extreme but his actions don't come out of nowhere. Iran was causing problems, Kuwait was causing problems. Tthere were clashes and border incursions between Iraq and Iran in the late 70's well before the start of the war.

@raptor22

I've no problem trashing Saddam, but this forum is compromised out of pro-regime Iranians who will defend Khomeini till their death. An animal who refused the 1982 cease fire causing millions of more deaths. That's the difference

Given Iran's interference in the elections, Iraq should interfere in Khuzstan/Ahvwvaz. What is the worst that could happen? Of course you once again go by power, the strongest does as it wants. That's what Iran did before the Iran-Iraq war, you have no ground to blame us.

Let them continue to shot themselves in the foot. Recent developments in Iraq must be burning those Wilayat al-Faqih Mullah's and the tiny minority of internal sellouts. They should be slapped harsh and dealt with the Arab way. Great that even the most brainwashed Iraqi Shia Arabs (youth) are waking up. They know their psyche.
 
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Pak made taliban and supported it for 3 decades.

That’s why today US bomb your country.
who is supporting taliban now? who is providing them weapon now?

Pak made taliban and supported it for 3 decades.

That’s why nowadays US bomb your country.
and usa supported taliban and now they have no control over them and need someone to put the blame for their defeat in Afghanistan!
 
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You need to take your medicine Rafidah Majoosi (using your language) and stop obsessing about internal Arab affairs while most of the 500 million Arabs despise your likes (Anti-Arab Iranians with your world view).

Good luck "getting revenge" from 1.5 billion Muslims. I let you you continue to live in your fantasy land. However don't forget the facts that I wrote in this thread.

You are a braindead Shia Twelver thanks to my ancestors. So have some shame.
you see Syria is not internal Arab affair . to be honest in the 2121st century there is no such thing as internal x countries or nationality affair .
Everything is interwoven with everything else . each decision there affect every one from China to Britain.

You can't expect somebody wants re change balance of power in the region and other player stay silent.

The shrines claim are as credible as claim that Sunni Arabs of Syria decided to overthrow Syrian government because it was secular or alevite or..
Everyone knew the inferno started ,fuelled and fanned by foreigners
 
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you see Syria is not internal Arab affair . to be honest in the 2121st century there is no such thing as internal x countries or nationality affair .
Everything is interwoven with everything else . each decision there affect every one from China to Britain.

You can't expect somebody wants re change balance of power in the region and other player stay silent.

The shrines claim are as credible as claim that Sunni Arabs of Syria decided to overthrow Syrian government because it was secular or alevite or..
Everyone knew the inferno started ,fuelled and fanned by foreigners

There is and there is also a difference between how nations states act and how individuals without any power (forum members) act online. I cannot take it seriously when people who have no clue whatsoever about the Arab world, individual Arab countries and who cannot even count to 10 in Arabic, here or elsewhere online or in person, are commenting about KSA and Arab affairs in general, as if they are a part of it and if they have a say and they matter.

I know much more about Pakistan and Iran than maybe 99% of all foreigners do about those countries YET I am not meddling in their internal matters or telling them what they have to do inside their own countries. Or trying to act like I know better than locals.


My point is that self-proclaimed anti-Arabs are wasting their times obsessing about affairs in the Arab world. Instead of lying through their teeth they might as well tell what their real views are and what their intentions would be if they had any power. All this crap about caring for Syria and Syrians, Iraq and Iraqis, Yemen and Yemenis, it's one big fat lie.

First of all around 80% or so (let's say 75%) of Syria's population is composed of Syrian Sunni Arabs. They used to rule Syria (secular manner - modern era) long before the Al-Assad regime and no minorities were hurt. It's the same nonsense I hear about Egyptians. Apparently using their logic, the 8-10 million or so Copts, would have/should have been exterminated ages ago. As well as all the Shia minority communities in the Arab world in Yemen, Oman, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, KSA to mention a few Arab countries. It's just a joke.

Most people, irrespective of sect, rose up against an incompetent, highly criminal and mass-murdering regime who have destroyed Syria and turned it into rubble, killed at least 400.000 of its people, exiled millions of its citizens directly or indirectly due to their actions, who have SOLD their country to foreigners as the regime could not survive on its own without outside help, itself a humiliation etc. That is why they rebelled. Not because (as maybe propagandized by Iranian state media) they want to eat Alawites or Christians for breakfast. Most ordinary Arabs not traumatized by war, not having their families carpet bombed (and thus wanting revenge or blaming sects for this) do not GIVE A CRAP about sects. Those who do use this mostly in a political way. Those who even know about the real differences of sects (theologically) are few and far in-between and who really study those differences in depth. Why? Because they just follow what they were born into and what their parents, grandparents etc. followed before them and because they do not obsess about sects and maybe not even religion to begin with. Certainly this is the case for a large percentage.

Apparently everyone in KSA is an imaginary "Wahhabi" according to the Iranians here (despite not even 40% of the population belonging to the state-dominating Hanbali fiqh) while there are 2-3 million Shias, if not 4 million. Attacks against them, even with all the geopolitical conflicts, wars in Yemen, civil war in Syria, Daesh in Iraq and Syria, 2-3 attacks on them were made by local terrorists in history. People live together in the same cities, intermarry (yes, that also happens but obviously its not the majority) and work side by side on all fronts.

This kind of propaganda that Sunni Arabs (80% of all Arabs worldwide - some 400 million people nowadays worldwide) are some kind of Daesh replicas, is just something that cannot be taken seriously and part of some kind of demonization campaign that is deliberate. It's so moronic that it is not even worth entertaining or given much thought if not for the stupidity that you notice in certain places online. Usually this is only online ironically. We all know why.
 
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The Fatemiyoun Brigade, shown in December, is comprised of approximately 20,000 Afghan Shia mercenaries, according to media reports
Wow..... That's quite significant . Gives Iran a lot of influence in the region. Kudos to the Iranians for their external military machine apparatus operating throughout the region
 
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