Iran-backed militias recruiting Pakistanis, Afghans to fight in Syria

[Muhammed45]

Yes I do I don't try to hide the truth by using taqqyyia

You can't deny the

Cut the bullshits dude, I am not extremist. Don't insult an other persons beliefs, that's an order from Amir Al momenin heydar AS. That's what I believe in, if you insult, you would be insulted in return. A social and religious concept.

Criticizing is different from insulting and this is not a religious forum to discuss religious issues. You don't sound a Shia btw, with that question that why are we defending shine of dead person, I have heard it from Saudi sectarians.

 

[Serpentine]

Will Iranians be ok if number of Iranians work and fight under Pakistan as Pakistan's proxy...??

How about Pakistan also recruits Iranian opressed Sunnis? residing in Sistan province?

Yes, I will be perfectly fine if an Iranian volunteerily joins Pak Army or get paid to fight Pakistan's wars. Because that's what he/she has decided. I wouldn't beat myself up about it.

 

[SALMAN F]

Cut the bullshits dude, I am not extremist. Don't insult an other persons beliefs, that's an order from Amir Al momenin heydar AS. That's what I believe in, if you insult, you would be insulted in return. A social and religious concept.

Criticizing is different from insulting and this is not a religious forum to discuss religious issues. You don't sound a Shia btw, with that question that why are we defending shine of dead person, I have heard it from Saudi sectarians.

But you still didn't answer the question if the imam wants you to protect his grave in what's the point if going to him to ask for help how come you ask the imam to protect you while he needs you to protect his grave?

Imams and good dead people can't give protection or help only god can

 

[Cthulhu]

Shia Islam will be always alive until arrival of Imam Mahdi (AS) and we take take revege of 11 Shia Imams and 18 years old Sayyedah Zahra (SA) daughter of last prophet whom got poisoned by his Sahaba.

Imam Mahdi (AS) is going to take revenge on whom exactly? On the people who have nothing to do with 11 Shia Imams and 18 years old Sayyedah Zahra (SA) whatsoever?

 

[SALMAN F]

Imam Mahdi (AS) is going to take revenge on whom exactly? On the people who have nothing to do with 11 Shia Imams and 18 years old Sayyedah Zahra (SA) whatsoever?

He said the prophet was poised by the Sahaba and when I told this to @mohammad45 he denied that Shias have such beliefs

@waz @Zaki @Irfan Baloch @Horus and others this @Saif al-Arab is just banned under this account @sharif al-hijaz aka @bilad al-haramain

Making multiple ids is against forum’s law. He’s been permanently banned for several times.

Aren't you mohsenman and ghulam al Azhar with many multiple accounts?!
Mods should ban this false flagger

 

[TheCamelGuy]

@mangekyousharingan

Below are the quantity and type of aircraft sent to Iran by Iraq, this is worth a lot more than what Iran supplied in 2014. Where is our thanks.

40 Su-22 Soviet Union
24 Su-24 Soviet Union
24 Mirage F-1 France
15 Ilyushin Il-76 Soviet Union
12 MiG-23 Soviet Union
7 Su-25 Soviet Union
4 MiG-29 Soviet Union
4 Su-7 Soviet Union
4 Su-17 S et Union
4 Su-20 Soviet Union

Who wants to pay me back

 

[SALMAN F]

Honestly I am sunni because of my ancestry, but personally I dont give a Fuack. However. I do enjoy seeing 80 million population of Iran toying with almost 500 million arabs. And I dont care if they are shia, sunni, atheist, pig worshiper or whatever

You can't be Sunni because of the ancestry

 

[TheCamelGuy]

But you still didn't answer the question if the imam wants you to protect his grave in what's the point if going to him to ask for help how come you ask the imam to protect you while he needs you to protect his grave?

Imams and good dead people can't give protection or help only god can

Najaf and Karbala are good tourist attractions, they should turn it into a consumer market to generate profit.

 

[raptor22]

Iran-Iraq war started as a result of provocations initiated by Iran under the Shah which was the superior military power, they decided to show their military might with aggression and intimidation towards Iraq. The story that you push that Saddam out of nowhere decided to invade Iran is a lie. There we occasional fire exchanges on the borders.

Then who attacked Kuwait?and who is recognized by the UNSC as the aggressor?

 

[TheCamelGuy]

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/02/iran-iraq-election-velayati.html

Iranian interference in Iraqi election stirs anger among Iraqis

Ali Akbar Velayati, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's top adviser on international affairs, paid an official visit to Iraq from Feb. 15-18. He made statements on issues related to Iraq's internal affairs, including the upcoming elections, which sparked controversy in the Iraqi political scene.

“We will not allow liberals and communists to govern in Iraq,” Velayati said during a speech Feb. 17 at the Founding Conference of the Iraqi Assembly of Islamic Unity in Baghdad.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/02/iran-iraq-election-velayati.html#ixzz595tCf4qm

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What is this shit?

Then who attacked Kuwait?and who is recognized by the UNSC as the aggressor?

What I wrote up there are facts, the Shah was arrogant like the Kurds were given the strong US support. He started bullying his western neighbor with his superior navy in the waterway. Kuwait caused Iraq problems with slant drilling.

Now you may say Saddam's reactions are extreme but his actions don't come out of nowhere. Iran was causing problems, Kuwait was causing problems. Tthere were clashes and border incursions between Iraq and Iran in the late 70's well before the start of the war.

@raptor22

I've no problem trashing Saddam, but this forum is compromised out of pro-regime Iranians who will defend Khomeini till their death. An animal who refused the 1982 cease fire causing millions of more deaths. That's the difference

Given Iran's interference in the elections, Iraq should interfere in Khuzstan/Ahvwvaz. What is the worst that could happen? Of course you once again go by power, the strongest does as it wants. That's what Iran did before the Iran-Iraq war, you have no ground to blame us.

 

[Cthulhu]

He said the prophet was poised by the Sahaba and when I told this to @mohammad45 he denied that Shias have such beliefs

To be fair, This is the first time that i hear such a thing too.

 

[SALMAN F]

Sure, whatever floats your boat. Iranian influence in tiny Southern Lebanon and a few militias in Iraq = Iran controls all 20 Arab countries and 500 million Arabs while having zero influence in 90% of all Arab countries. Nice joke.

Meanwhile this is the reality of Iran for the past 1400 years:

Iran has no history. It's entire pre-Islamic culture is a copy of Semitic civilizations and cultures originally from Arabia. For the past 1400 year they have been more Arab than Iranian. Almost completely Arabized.

Most scientists and famous Muslim figures were Arabs. That's a well-known fact.

Sure, Iranian camels and donkeys are such great that they are 100 times more Arabized than any Arab is Persinized.

Assyrians are just one Semitic people and their history is dwarfed by other Semitic peoples and besides that Assyrians and Arabs are closely related people (similar to Persians and stateless Kurds) and have the same origin.

LOL. Arab grammar was invented 1000 year prior to Islam. Do you know what a systematic system is or standardization? Sure, a supposed Persian who was taught by his Arab teachers and who was fully Arabized (as per his name) and who was born in Arab lands. He was probably as Persian as Khamenei is Arab today.

They still butthurt from arabs until today that's why they shout we are Aryans we don't worship arabs it shows how the arab influence is strong even the nationalistic Kurds and Turks are not that hostile toward Islam

But you can't blame them their supreme leader is descendent from muhammad and not from Cyrus,Darius, ardashir , anoshervan or khosrou also they praise the descendants if muhammad they build shrines for them while they don't know were are the graves of their kings


Arab shrines are build with gold and silver while Cyrus grave is built by stones in the middle of nowhere only few people visit him compare to the millions who visit the imamzadeh and imams shrines
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imamzadeh_Saleh,_Shemiran

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Imamzadeh_shrines_and_mosques_in_Iran


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imamzadeh_Hamzah,_Tabriz

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imamzadeh

Even the founder of modern Shia iran claimed the arab ancestor he called himself abu al mozafdmfar shah Ismail bin hayder bin jubair al Musawi al hussaini in order to rule them

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_I

 

[raptor22]

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/02/iran-iraq-election-velayati.html

Iranian interference in Iraqi election stirs anger among Iraqis

Ali Akbar Velayati, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's top adviser on international affairs, paid an official visit to Iraq from Feb. 15-18. He made statements on issues related to Iraq's internal affairs, including the upcoming elections, which sparked controversy in the Iraqi political scene.

“We will not allow liberals and communists to govern in Iraq,” Velayati said during a speech Feb. 17 at the Founding Conference of the Iraqi Assembly of Islamic Unity in Baghdad.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/02/iran-iraq-election-velayati.html#ixzz595tCf4qm

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What is this shit?



What I wrote up there are facts, the Shah was arrogant like the Kurds were given the strong US support. He started bullying his western neighbor with his superior navy in the waterway. Kuwait caused Iraq problems with slant drilling.

Now you may say Saddam's reactions are extreme but his actions don't come out of nowhere. Iran was causing problems, Kuwait was causing problems. Tthere were clashes and border incursions between Iraq and Iran in the late 70's well before the start of the war.

@raptor22

I've no problem trashing Saddam, but this forum is compromised out of pro-regime Iranians who will defend Khomeini till their death. An animal who refused the 1982 cease fire causing millions of more deaths. That's the difference

Given Iran's interference in the elections, Iraq should interfere in Khuzstan/Ahvwvaz. What is the worst that could happen? Of course you once again go by power, the strongest does as it wants. That's what Iran did before the Iran-Iraq war, you have no ground to blame us.

First of all there was an agreement by the name of Algeria agreement in 1975 that addressed border disputes that should have been respected...
Secondly Shah as you described is the one whom saved Saddam a$$ back in 1978 by informing him of a military coup within Iraq by Soviet Union:

So what was the problem?

Khomeini did a great job by not accepting ceasefire:
1. there was no real meaningful peace plan which in the invader, compensation and returning to international borders would have been guaranteed till 598...
2. Saddam started the war consequently if he wanted "peace" simply he could have withdraw from Iranian territories to international recognized borders not only he didn't , he stayed in Iranian territories and called for ceasefire. silly ...
3. We couldn't trust a person like Saddam whom teared off an agreement recognized by the itself and the UNSC before the cameras and then he started the war...
4. His occupation of Kuwait proved Iran stance to not trust a maniac like him who attacked his people and also Iranian by CW ...

Moreover Iran-Iraq war had nothing to do with Iran Iraq problems it was a plot hatched by American and others :

And I am telling you those who like your post are the same guys whom bankrolled Iran Iraq war and later on cheered up the US invasion of Iraq and "oil-for-food programme" causing hundred thousands of Iraqi children death during 90s ..
if you wanna team up with somebody find someone that worth it ...

 

[TheCamelGuy]

First of all there was an agreement by the name of Algeria agreement in 1975 that addressed border disputes that should have been respected...

The algiers agreement was a result of Iranian bullying, it was not in Iraq's interest but rather something forced as the neighbor was exerting its superior military power.

Secondly Shah as you described is the one whom saved Saddam a$$ back in 1978 by informing him of a military coup within Iraq by Soviet Union:
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So what was the problem?

Shah saved his own a$$ given Iran was a NATO ally back then bordering the Soviet union in the east, if Iraq was to become a Soviet allie you'd have more problems.

Khomeini did a great job by not accepting ceasefire:
1. there was no real meaningful peace plan which in the invader, compensation and returning to international borders would have been guaranteed ...
2. Saddam started the war consequently if he wanted "peace" simply he could have withdraw from Iranian territories to international recognized borders not only he didn't , he stayed in Iranian territories and called for ceasefire. silly ...
3. We couldn't trust a person like Saddam whom teared off an agreement recognized by the itself and the UNSC before the cameras and then he started the war...
4. His occupation of Kuwait proved Iran stance to not trust a maniac like him who attacked his people and also Iranian by CW ...

Moreover Iran-Iraq war had nothing to do with Iran Iraq problems it was a plot hatched by American and others :

And I am telling you those who like your post are the same guys whom bankrolled Iran Iraq war and later on cheered up the US invasion of Iraq and "oil-for-food programme" causing hundred thousands of Iraqi children death during 90s ..
if you wanna team up with somebody find someone that worth it ...

There's no teaming up with anyone, we don't have to be their enemies. Saddam's policy was reckless but right with regards to alliances, every side is hostile.

 

[raptor22]

The algiers agreement was a result of Iranian bullying, it was not in Iraq's interest but rather something forced as the neighbor was exerting its superior military power.


Shah saved his own a$$ given Iran was a NATO ally back then bordering the Soviet union in the east, if Iraq was to become a Soviet allie you'd have more problems.


There's no teaming up with anyone, we don't have to be their enemies. Saddam's policy was reckless but right with regards to alliances, every side is hostile.

Ok I got it .. have fun ...