Iran and Turkey Closing in on Israel When It Comes to Science

[KingMamba]

Well, they have hindered scientific growth. What about suspending students who are involved in political activities? Or changing the information/courses in your own benefit or ideology? I think Iran's scientific growth would have taken place even if the revolution in '79 didn't occurred. It's not thanks to this regime, but in despite of.

Well you guys were always scientifically inclined even before 79 however they could have just gone complete medieval Afghanistan style but they didn't however I guess maybe you are right. So is there anything at all that the current regime has done or is doing that you agree with or applaud in the slightest?

 

[Surenas]

Well you guys were always scientifically inclined even before 79 however they could have just gone complete medieval Afghanistan style but they didn't however I guess maybe you are right. So is there anything at all that the current regime has done or is doing that you agree with or applaud in the slightest?

To be honest, I think the Iranians on this forum who are at this moment living (and studying) in Iran are better capable of answering this question. Perhaps the only thing I can applaud is that education is accessible for the people in the lower social classes as well.

But considering the fact that Iran is facing the largest brain drain of the world, the only thing I can conclude is that the regime has failed. The growth could be ten times higher.

 

[Archdemon]

For example, praising Iran's achievement in missile development.



You must be the most stupid Jew that's around here. What has brain drain to do with talent? What about everything? Brain drain is about talents, Iran's high educated group, who leave the country in order to seek a better scientific or political environment. It's not about how failed Iran is, but how failed the leadership is.



And that's exactly the reason why you are full of sh1t.

Missile development? and? so do North Korea is progressing in missile tech.

You must be the smartest Persian here, and it is not a complement

Zimbabwe, Sudan, Pakistan, Russia etc have a Brain drain, and? people flea their countries to pursuit for a better life, again Iranian large scale brain drain is indicator to only two thing, It is a shitty life in Iran and it is easy to get away, take your time to understand this Persian kitten.

 

[Abii]

Considering the sanctions Iran is doing terrific. But when it comes to Israel: I think that there was a report from the UN that stated that Israel had more scientific publications per anno are more then the whole Middle East (per anno).

false, completely false.

Israel isn't even in the top 25

Iran and Turkey together have around 69000 publications (Iran is 17th, Turkey is 19th) and Israel is 27th with around 16000 publications. So they dont even match Iran or Turkey.

SJR - International Science Ranking

 

[KS]

Iran and Turkey together have around 69000 publications (Iran is 17th, Turkey is 19th) and Israel is 27th with around 16000 publications. So they dont even match Iran or Turkey.

Percapita is the catch. Per capita I think Israel is far ahead of both Iran and Turkey.

 

[Abii]

Percapita is the catch. Per capita I think Israel is far ahead of both Iran and Turkey.

But why should per capita matter?

37K new ideas is always better than 16K new ideas, no matter what the pop'n is. We're not talking about GDP here.

 

[KS]

Are you a lawyer ?

 

[Archdemon]

The quality of Iranian publication are slightly higher than of African countries, so what good for is your toilet paper?

it is funny how you gloating about so called Iranian achievements and comparing it to a tiny Israel and then saying per capita doesn't matter, what a Persian...

 

[Uhuhu]

since few times ago i thought i can talk to Israelis like other people, but after a while i realized they are too impolite and Ribald whatever you will be polite or impolite. It's their family fault because family is so important to how grow kids up,
By the way, this is your answer little mouse:

Iran showing fastest scientific growth of any country - science-in-society - 18 February 2010 - New Scientist

Iran is top of the world in science growth - science-in-society - 28 March 2011 - New Scientist

It's a shame for you guys that a country which is under heavy sanction for over 30 years and was in a war for near a decade, still is growing up and with all of these, nowadays they are one of the most powerful missile forces in the world.space program and nuclear industry and... while your government are crying and ask other powers in the world to invade and stop iran.

and dont make me laugh about talent, read more history.

 

[KingMamba]

The quality of Iranian publication are slightly higher than of African countries, so what good for is your toilet paper?

it is funny how you gloating about so called Iranian achievements and comparing it to a tiny Israel and then saying per capita doesn't matter, what a Persian...

Most hostile Zionazi on this forum and maybe a slight bit more annoying than Solomon.

 

[SamranAli]

iran is doing good, must be appreciated.

 

[what]

But why should per capita matter?

37K new ideas is always better than 16K new ideas, no matter what the pop'n is. We're not talking about GDP here.

Per capita always matters. It allows us to put compare achievements. Israel is doing good, Iran is doing good considering its circumstances, Turkey on the other hand sucks considering our circumstances.

 

[what]

But why should per capita matter?

37K new ideas is always better than 16K new ideas, no matter what the pop'n is. We're not talking about GDP here.

Per capita always matters. It allows us to put compare achievements. Israel is doing good, Iran is doing good considering its circumstances, Turkey on the other hand sucks considering our circumstances.

 

[cabatli_53]

Science and Technolgical activities are booming in Turkey. Governmental support and encouraging are also taken into consideration. Making R&D is a prohibition for institutes. In defence industry, Without qualified R&D activities/engineers, The institutes aren't be certified and They can't join into tenders. In near future, Those activities will be increadible big.

No need to mention current R&D activities of Turkish defence institutes, techoparks, Tubitak institutes. Under new investments, It is planned to increase impressive R&D activities While collecting all qualified engineers under same umbrella...

For exm from wellknown programs for defence industry:

Istanbul Technopark project(One of the biggest technopark project of europe): It is planned to collect 30000 qualifed Turksh&Foreign R&D engineers working for defence and aerospace.

Aselsan REHIS (Thales Netherland equivalent): More than 300 Radar and EW microwave R&D engineers

Roketsan Balistic Protection Center: Hundreds of qualified engineers working on armours R&D's.

TAI UMET: 120 satellite technologies R&D engineers



Turkey aimed to increase the country’s R&D rate to 2 percent in the Ninth Development Plan that covers the period between 2007 and 2013.