Anyway @
Charon 2 there is no reason to argue this as we won't agree.
My view is the following.
Originally the linage of Mughals and Timurid (Mughals were themselves descendants of Timurid so it is one lineage) were Mongols but later they came into contact with nearby Turkic tribes and became Turkified. Then that lineage moved to Uzbekistan where they intermarried Turks and later they made the final step to Northern India where they made their capital. Here they started intermarrying mostly locals but also Persians and Arabs. Their culture was a mixture of Mongol/Turkic military influences, and Persian/Arab court influences and obviously the local influences. They were probably already called Turco-Mongols when they reached Uzbekistan. I think most sources stay this even so not probably but they were.
Today their descendants live all over South Asia but they look like your average South Asian. I think a few users on PDF even claim to be Mughals.
Calling them purely Turkic is denying a lot of history just for the sake of nationalism.
By that logic Ottomans were more Georgian/Caucasian/Slavic than Turks because they mostly intermarried non-Turks, ruled an Arab system, used Arab titles, spoke Ottoman Language which was much more Arabic than Turkic etc. One could make a similar case but obviously it would be dismissed because of the earliest origins of the Ottomans. Similarly ruling families always married other dynasts and foreigners. Yet we always look at their paternal origins to defy their origin. The origin of Ottomans are clear. They are Turkic peoples from Turkmenistan belonging to the Oghuz tribe/clan/larger family call it what you want.
My family (Makkawi Hashemites) have intermarried with foreigners too but we will always remain an Hijazi/Arabian/Semite clan.
Got my point here or not?
PS: It's never about what you consider yourself. The Savoy family (Italian royal family) consider themselves Italian nowadays but are undoubtedly of French origin originally. Similarly the Spanish Royal Family consider themselves Spanish but they belong to the French Bourbon dynasty. The Danish royal family consider themselves Danish but are Germans originally. Similarly with the British royal family that is German originally. Not British or English as many falsely believe.
The Russian Tsars were basically Germans ruling Russia too despite being called Romanov and being Russian first and foremost. They spoke German among each other. etc. etc.
All what I have written here about those royal families and their origins is correct. You can research this on your own.
The King of Morocco considers himself an Moroccan but his lineage is from Hijaz. I was speaking about their paternal origins not what they called themselves nor did I say anything about them NOT intermarrying with Turks, becoming Turkified etc. You were just angry because somebody challenged your initial claim so you were more busy insulting and not reading what I actually wrote.
