What's new

Iran and Saudi Arabia reportedly agree to resume diplomatic ties and re-open embassies within two months

A Comment to the NY Time article I quoted above. This was a response to a usual 'democracy' blah blah Comment. What happened yesterday, if it holds or doesn't get sabotaged, will have far reaching consequences for humanity.


"@Frank I'll help you. You just don't understand foreign policy and national security but many people don't. In order to secure or advance America's vast and ambitious national security interests, it must keep alliances with less than savory partners. Saudi Arabia has oil, incredibly talented intelligence services that have assisted for decades in the war on terror, and is a valuable counterweight to Shia Iran in the region. Ceding that alliance to China means ceding access and placement in the region. The same moral ambiguity goes for many partners around the world such as Turkey, Pakistan, Israel, Mali, and other nations in the global south. Furthermore, foreign policy IS a zero sum game. China will benefit from our losses. They will fill the diplomatic, intelligence, and military void left by our regional disengagement. You better believe that behind this brokered deal was a discussion on future trade with China as well as port access and even potential military bases. Now of course, America could scale back it's ambitions, quit pretending it is the world's police, quite pretending it is "defending democracy" all over the world, including on the immediate periphery of other great powers' sphere of influence, and we wouldn't need Saudi Arabia and our other questionable partners. In which case, BRAVO, you have Donald Trump's America First foreign policy and you'd withdraw support for the Ukrainian forever war. Something tells me that's not Biden's plan."
 
Closely tied to this topic is this article at The American Conservative. They are the 'real' Conservatives of America and are dying breed. Sad for America. And, the 'myths' this article alludes to do persist in America. I remember a bartender telling me around the Iraq War of 2003: 'America destroys but America also generously rebuilds'. Unfortunately, the geographical isolation and the propaganda machine of the Military Industrial Complex works too well in America.



Death of a Myth​

Americans need to wake up to the realities of a post-unipolar world before it’s too late.


s we witness the collapse of various mainstream narratives, especially those surrounding the U.S./NATO war with Russia in Ukraine, Americans should begin to reassess their understanding of U.S. national leadership. Most American citizens have no notion of the great disparity between what their government does overseas and the stories they hear from its mouthpieces. As a result, Americans unwittingly support all sorts of foreign operations with little or no understanding of what is actually going on. For years, they have been misled by a non-stop propaganda campaign that is only now beginning to crumble.

We are experiencing the death throes of the United States’ unipolar hegemony over large parts of world. Until citizens begin to realize the magnitude of their government’s policy deceptions, it will become increasingly difficult to understand the United States’ changing global position and adjust to the effects of the growing negative perception of our country held by many people around the world.

Since World War II, and particularly after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the United States was the dominant and unrivaled world power. Instead of being a peacekeeper and honest “world's policeman,” the U.S. has increasingly been a destabilizing bully. Many leaders worldwide have been reluctant to speak up about the increasingly destructive nature of U.S. foreign policy for fear of being punished. But as U.S. stature and power declines, large parts of the world have been seeking arrangements to protect themselves from U.S. predation.

Most Americans do not understand why such realignments are occurring, thanks to a constant stream of propaganda about America being the “most generous,” the “exceptional nation,” a “nation that sets aside its interests for the benefit of the world,” an “important source of good” around the globe as the “protector of the rules based order,” always shouldering the heavy responsibility to protect the international system and weak nations from bad actors, ad nauseam. According to a number of sources, U.S.-caused wars have been directly responsible for the deaths of more than 10 million people since World War II. The neoconservatives will scoff at these facts and their sources, but most of the rest of the world believes this to be true.

Most Americans cannot accept these observations because they contradict the narrative given them by the omnipresent state propaganda machine. While the ever growing list of American misdeeds abroad has for years been largely unchallenged at home, it has become increasingly obvious to many across the globe. Americans should take note. For example, the Chinese Foreign Ministry has just published an overview of what they see as U.S. misbehavior. The U.S. establishment and well-meaning patriots may dismiss the Chinese observations, but they ring true to many who live outside of the neoconservative propaganda bubble.

Contrary to establishment mythology, the U.S. is famous for breaking its promises, violating treaties, and abandoning agreements. The list is long: the U.S.'s 1990 promise not to move NATO east into former Warsaw Convention countries, the abrogation of the ABM, INF, Open Skies, START treaties, the JCPOA, the agreement with Libya, and others. The U.S. has also repeatedly flouted international law by invading countries that do not bow to U.S. hegemony.

There are a number of U.S. agencies that covertly fund NGO election interference operations. Most Americans have no idea that the Cold War–era National Endowment for Democracy was created to influence elections in countries around the world, and has interfered in many. (The National Endowment for Democracy was spending money in Russia until the Russians expelled them.) Then there are the famous “Color Revolutions” sponsored by various U.S. agencies. Some estimate the U.S. has interfered in as many as fifty countries.

The days of pretending to ignore this destructive behavior are drawing to a close. We are entering a period in which the populations of many countries may decide that being subject to American hegemony is not in their interests. Increasing numbers of countries have joined and formed alternative alliances outside U.S. influence. SCO, BRICS+, OPEC+, and others have experienced growing membership as countries that believe their interests are better protected by these non-U.S. affiliated alliances sign on.

The fallout of the tragic and unnecessary Ukraine war has accelerated this movement to seek other cooperative associations. As America’s European allies are learning, there can be huge political and economic costs to being associated with the U.S. The populations of Europe have watched their own economies suffer and paid dearly for energy because of the ten rounds of self-destructive sanctions imposed on Russia.

The purveyor and protector of the "rules-based order" decided that Germany should not import cheap Russian natural gas. America's president and a senior State Department official threatened to cut off the pipeline supplying Russian natural gas if Russia did not bow to Washington's wishes. Coincidentally, the Nord Stream gas pipelines were blown up not long after. The U.S. Secretary of State said the sabotage was an “opportunity,” and the assistant secretary of State appeared to be satisfied. The neoconservatives lauding this act of terrorism against an ally of the U.S. may believe pretending Washington was not responsible will reassure America and Europe, but the rest of the world believes otherwise.

Many will ignore or diminish the consequences of a possible U.S. role in the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines. But this addition to the list of callous acts believed abroad to be perpetrated by the U.S. further would undermine the narrative of America as the “generous nation,” “leader of the free world,” “protector of the rules-based order.” For years, these contradictions were skillfully finessed and ignored by a compliant press and complicit institutions that profited from these deceptions. But as the U.S. appears less powerful, the rest of the world is beginning to take notice and are moving to seek other protective friendships.

Less than two years ago, the “most powerful military in the history of man” was chased out of Afghanistan by a group of ragtag militants armed with small arms and mounted on donkeys, bicycles, and motor scooters. The Taliban now has $80 billion worth of U.S. military equipment our leaders left behind. The excuses may have been convincing to the Washington elites and were sold strenuously by regime-aligned media outlets. The rest of the world knows better. The old post-Vietnam collapse tropes, claiming “we would have won if only we were really allowed to fight,” ring hollow after twenty years, hundreds of thousands killed and made homeless, and several trillion dollars spent on that disaster.

Contrary to the many assertions that the Russians would collapse from the shock and awe of the “sanctions from Hell,” the ruble has not turned into rubble as Joe Biden predicted. The U.S. and its NATO clients are running out of ammunition and arms to send to Ukraine, which is being bled white at their behest. It appears that Russia will steadily grind down the Ukrainian military. All of this is reminiscent of World War I. The proto-neoconservatives sold that war as a quick engagement that would be over by Christmas 1914. Four years later, 20 million were dead and many more were wounded or displaced; subsequently most of the European Christian monarchies collapsed, Russia descended into communism's seventy-year nightmare, and the “War to End all Wars” to make the world “safe for democracy” set the stage for the even more horrific World War II.

A century later, we are sleepwalking into World War III. Americans should ignore the state-sponsored propaganda (eerily similar to that which led up to WWI), wake up, look at what their leaders have wrought, and do all they can to end support for this cruel war before we face a Great War–like conflagration or worse.
 
It has nothing to do with Sunni vs Shia. It is about geopolitical influence in the region. The sectarian narrative is usually the Western narrative. Every Islamic sect within Sunni and Shia Islam (Hanbalis, Shafi'is, Malikis, Hanafis + Twelvers, Zaydis and Ismailis) is found natively within the various regions of KSA and all of them live peacefully. The oldest Shia community in the world is found in Madinah. ARAMCO and other huge Saudi Arabian companies based in the Eastern Province, much of their local personal are Shia. Shias in KSA are part of every field in KSA, governmental, military, business, private sector, you name it. Include the Sufis and Salafis.

All those sects within KSA belong to the same ethnic group and the same ancient tribes, clans etc. This probably helps the cohesion but just stating the obvious here. If the opposite was the case, KSA would have fallen apart ages ago.


@Corruptistan (This is your post I replied to, incidently it becomes Mustang 125 post)


Basically my previous post is just a post made by me, Sunni Islam, to Shiah follower. That is view about Sunni vs Shiah divide that is mentioned by that Pakistani Shiah PDF member.

I believe the oldest Shia communities should be found in Iraq. I believe people who called some community in Madinah as the first Shiah is just the community who support Ali and basically almost all prophet family would be supporting Ali and prophet Muhammad family. Prophet Muhammad families were seen as danger politically by Umayyah and then Abassiyah.

The different between Sunni and Shiah I believe started in Basrah, Iraq. That is the first settlement of Arab soldiers in Iraq and become the military center for Ali Bin Abu Thalib administration. The different comes later, maybe about 300 years later after the hadiths being compiled and selected by famous Muslim and Bukhari. Hadith was compiled 200 years after the death of prophet. This is the reason of the division. If hadith is compiled much sooner, so basically there will be no much different between Sunni and Shiah, just different in political view and some interpretation about who are the best authority in interpreting Islam. Because of Shiah followers are opposition to Umayyah, they dont believe the compilation conducted during Umayyah period.

Shiah of course see prophet Muhammad offspring as one of the best authority to do it, and this is why their Imams come from prophet Muhammad family. Regardless of that, prophet Muhammad offspring are many and spread across Muslim world as they were prosecuted under Umayyah and Abassiyah due to their high position among Muslim (thus give them political weight that is afraid by rulers during that time)
 
Last edited:
Correct.

But under the Shah rule, there were more 'social' freedoms but also severe repression and amassing of wealth in a few hands. The 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran introduced an extreme religious fervor, not unlike the one in the nascent Soviet Union after 1917. And just like in the Soviet Union of its early days, the Iran under the revolutionaries was an aggressive power, seeking to extend its ideology. AND both the USSR and the revolutionary Iran had their future course greatly influenced by what the foreign powers did to oppose the rise of the revolutions. The USSR probably would not have been so cynical and brutal had there not been foreign aggression to support the Mensheviks. Similarly, the revolution in Iran took on a cynical, brutal and repressive course because it too, with good reasons, saw itself in an existential struggle against powerful foreign powers . We can fairly add the support to Chiang Kai by foreign powers against the Communists in China during the Chinese Civil War which led to the course of the Chinese history in a certain way.

Who were those foreign powers meddling in the affairs of nations thousands of miles away?? I don't think I need to tell anyone here. Follow the money and you will find them. War profiteers and enemies of humanity!

But I digressed! Here is a video which touches upon what could the order look like in the Middle East IF this new rapprochement succeeds. I didn't respect Alexander in this video much in his early videos--kind of sounded like on dope--but I was wrong. The guy even brought up the Tashkent Agreement between India-Pakistan after the 1965 war! He knows his stuff!!

Of course its normal..foreign/big powers have always been involved in extending their influence and interests around as much as they see fit. That's how the world has always worked. So to cry that its unfair wouldnt change reality, life has never been fair anyway and countries will keep doing what they have to do as long as it suits their interests. So western powers getting involved in Russia in tha past against the revolution had its own merit for western interests. Just like Russia getting involved in carving out territories and its own zone of influence from a weak China back then wasn't wrong per se(geopolitically speaking), same with Japan doing similar in much of Asia or European powers in middle east , Africa, south Asia, or Russia invading and trying to carve out Ukraine even more after already taking/annexing Crimea etc. Big powers will always prey on smaller ir weaker ones once they see an opportunity to do so. So it's up to those countries to understand this and take necessary measure to prevent this from happening(which means being united, good governance, make people feel protected and taken care of by their government instead of repression/dictatorship, strong military etc).
So going in the corner and crying about it or complaining non stop/victimising yourself and getting radical because of that wouldn't change the past or current reality and it's not a good solution either. Do you think Iraqis, Syrians,Lebanese complaining about Iran getting involved in their internal affairs and arming proxies in their country will change anything ? Lol i'm sure there are many who have been complaining about it, but doesn't and wouldn't change reality. So foriegn powers will keep doing what they have to do.
 
Last edited:
Also the Islamic Republic's foreign policy is not aimed at gaining regional influence per se, nor is it confining itself to alliance with Shia Islamic movements (ie its outlook is not sectarian): Iran's objective is to see West Asia free of illegitimate encroachment by oppressive NATO and zionist imperialists, full stop. Iran's strategy is not to provoke wars but consists in inviting local actors to emancipate themselves from imperial overlordship, and assisting those who do. To this end Sunni Moslems such as Palestinian Resistance groups and even non-Moslem countries such as Venezuela and Korea are welcome partners to Iran.
What are you talking about? So you think Iran is some sort of saint that is out there to save Arab countries from evil forces yeah? 🤣😂 seems you have taken in the Mullahs propaganda to another level. Not even Iranians themselves believe that. 😂
Dude, if that was the case why did Iran intervene in Syria to help Assad clampdown and massacre Syrian people who rose up against his dynastic Familly regime? 😂 In fact Iran shouls have been supporting the Syrian revolution/uprising since its the same way the current Iranian regime today (they will be considered as "rebels" back then. Lol ) rose up to topple the Shah dictatorship. Imagine the US/UK/Arab forces had directly intervene to help the Shah clampdown and massacre Iranians and the mullahs who rose up to topple the Shah regime you think the Mullahs would have been in power today. In fact if that was the case then the leader of the Mullah Khomeini would have been imprisoned and locked up in France where he was in exile and sentenced as a terrorist. Yet that didnt happen and he was allowed to not only leave but go back and settle in Iran..
Dude get out of your the mullah are some sort of mission to save Arab countries and allow them to emancipate themselves . LMAO. you really believe that? 😂 who asked them to be their saviour? Arab countries asked them for nothing. The mullah regime is doing so for their own interests and influence, and I don't blame them actually. Every country is after their interests afterall, im.not that naive. But to swallow mullah propaganda and actually believe this bullshit for real (like you do) of being a knight in shinning armour coming to save Arab countries is the joke of the century..😂
 
Last edited:
There are some secret talks going on at the same time between KSA and the Houthis.. most likely it is part of the deal..
Well, the best way for Saudi Arabia to end the conflict apart from military power is to bring in the Houthis on the negotiation table and strike a deal with the Saudi backed internationally recognised government. Else the country will have to fight to the end to defeat the houthis rebels like Syrian regime did with Syrian rebels. However the Syrian regime had the massive help of Russian airpower and Russian boots on the ground and Iranian shia militias from all over the region to help the massive Syrian military, even with all that it was a tough fight which still isnt over completely till this day. Meanwhile the Yemenis government has only Saudi Air power help and that's it. So to end the conflict as early as possible a negotiated solution with the houthis is necessary and KSA will have to bring them back into their fold, this will nulify Iran making use of them against KSA. That's the only way they can stop being an Iranian pawn.
 
Last edited:
@Corruptistan (This is your post I replied to, incidently it becomes Mustang 125 post)

Hadith was compiled 200 years after the death of prophet. This is the reason of the division. If hadith is compiled much sooner, so basically there will be no much different between Sunni and Shiah, just different in political view and some interpretation about who are the best authority in interpreting Islam. Because of Shiah followers are opposition to Umayyah, they dont believe the compilation conducted during Umayyah period.

Compared to Quran that is compiled during Ustman Bin Affan period ( prophet Muhammad Shahabah (close friend).

Quran is the one that is protected by God, but both Muslim and Bukhari (Hadith compiler) have tried so hard to select so many Hadiths and only put the ones that they think are the real Hadiths, while there are many weak haditsh not put in Bukhari and Muslim Hadith compilation.

200 years is not something short........... . This history lesson is good for non Muslim in this forum.
 
Any and all conflict since 1979 involving the Islamic Republic or the Iranian-led Axis of the Resistance has been the result of aggressive reaction by extra-regional, western imperial powers to this Iranian policy principle. These wars have not been a consequence of rivalry between Iran and Saudi Arabia at all, and much less so of supposed expansive ambitions on Iran's part, but of the Islamic Revolution's staunchly anti-imperialist orientation and the zio-American empire consequently using its regional clients as proxies to try and counter Iran, as they did with Saddam during his 1980-1988 war of aggression, in Afghanistan against the Soviets, in Ukraine by installing an anti-Russian regime in Kiev etc.
Oh I see. You are just one of those Pakistanis who is drunk over Israel, the "zionists", and anything related to the West . Lol So anybody or country that says those words is all good by you.😆 Its ok though, there are quite a few memebers here that are like that. So I'm not surprised much..No point in debating much with someone who believes every single thing is the fault of Israel and the West and that any country in the world who doesnt agree with this is a western puppet. 😂

In fact i will say that using your logic , your own country Pakistan is a western puppet as well. 🤣 In fact even Indonesia, Malaysia etc will be a western puppet. 😆

You mentioned the "axis of resistance" . Lmao. Dude you seem to have fully embraced the Mullahs propaganda to the extreme.😂 Hope you didnt join the shia militias Iran was recruiting in your country paksitan as cannon fodder to fight their war in Syria as the "axis of resistance "? 😂
 
Of course its normal..foreign/big powers have always been involved in extending their influence and interests around as much as they see fit. That's how the world has always worked. So to cry that its unfair wouldnt change reality, life has never been fair anyway and countries will keep doing what they have to do as long as it suits their interests. So western powers getting involved in Russia in tha past against the revolution had its own merit. Just like Russia getting involved in carving out territories and its own zone of influence from a weak China back then wasnt wrong per se(geopolitically speaking), same with Japan doing similar in much of Asia or European powers in middle east , Africa, south Asia, or Russia invading and trying to carve out Ukraine even more after already taking/annexing Crimea etc. Big powers will always prey on smaller ones once rhey see an opportunity to do so. So it's up to those countries to understand this and tale necessary measure to prevent this from happening(which means being united, good governance, make people feel protected and taken care of by their government instead of repression/dictatorship, strong military etc).
So going in the corner and crying about it or complaining non stop/victimising yourself and getting radical because of that wouldn't change the past and it's not a good solution either. Do you think Iraqis, Syrians,Lebanese complaining about Iran getting involved I their internal affairs and arming proxies in their country will change anything ? Lol im sure rhere are many who have been complaining about it, but doesnt and wouldn't change reality. So foriegn powers will keep doing what they have to do.

In your perspective as Westerners, why US is such an opposing power when it comes to Iran ? When Iran ruler changes into religious autocracy, US seems very opposing to this nation and become their enemy (While Western nations like Britain will likely follow US policy)
 
A step in the right direction for both countries.

Saudi leader Muhammad Bin Salman is focused on developing KSA, he is looking forward to normalize relations with any country if it helps. Normalization of relations with Israel is also on the cards.

Saudi-US deliberations are ongoing behind-the-scenes:

 
I don't disagree. The main point however is to see if changes on the ground emerge. Once/if they do it is a different discussion and very much welcome news. However a lot of people are skeptical, me included, based on 43 years of track record overall. As I wrote, I hope to be proven wrong.

Regional stability is the best thing that can happen for the ongoing development of KSA and the wider GCC.

There has been a ceasefire in Yemen for 1 year or so by now.



It has nothing to do with Sunni vs Shia. It is about geopolitical influence in the region. The sectarian narrative is usually the Western narrative. Every Islamic sect within Sunni and Shia Islam (Hanbalis, Shafi'is, Malikis, Hanafis + Twelvers, Zaydis and Ismailis) is found natively within the various regions of KSA and all of them live peacefully. The oldest Shia community in the world is found in Madinah. ARAMCO and other huge Saudi Arabian companies based in the Eastern Province, much of their local personal are Shia. Shias in KSA are part of every field in KSA, governmental, military, business, private sector, you name it. Include the Sufis and Salafis.

All those sects within KSA belong to the same ethnic group and the same ancient tribes, clans etc. This probably helps the cohesion but just stating the obvious here. If the opposite was the case, KSA would have fallen apart ages ago.

Ohhh the food posts are back are back you just need to talk about the Arabian stallions
 
Winners of the deal:
KSA, Iran, China and the Middle East as a whole..no war means peace and progress..

Iran can concentrate on some progress,..since it suffers from the deterioration of its economy, the collapse of its currency, the revolution of its people, the increasing demands of minorities for secession, the increase in poverty rates, and the possibility of an American-Israeli strike on its nuclear facilities.

KSA can concentrate on more positive matters by stopping the war in Yemen.. and thwarting any attempts of getting it involved one way or another in a war that has zero interests for the nation and the region as a whole including Iran..

China wins prestige in power politics in the region and worldwide and thus lessens the risk of a war that can affect its energy supplies..This is strategically very important to China and consolidates its partnerships with reliable allies..

Russia wins somehow too..since all these countries are its friends and allies.. so more stability for them means more benefits for Russia in the region..

Many Arab countries had a clear position. They chose the economy in this difficult time away from the war. Many Arab countries were specific in their position early on. Even the average man in these countries was aware of the situation. I think the last to join the opinion of the rest was Saudi Arabia, but arriving late is better than To rush into a war that would have destroyed all the new economic plans in the region. Everyone benefit from the restoration of relations. Everyone resisted recklessness. Everyone was aware that it was only a matter of time to get out of this dilemma where everyone was angry that they would be forced to it, and they would get involved in wars that Israel was supposed to wage for many years..

Point of view:
The agreement prevents a military clash between Iran and Saudi Arabia, and tampers with the plan of the US and Israel to strike Iran by declaring it a nuclear state..Hence dragging the whole region in mayhem..

To be noted:
China is the guarantor of the agreement and the guarantor of the implementation of the outcomes of the meeting, and do not think the Iranians will be anointing the dignity of the Chinese dragon on the ground, because they know that the response will not only be Saudi, but also Chinese..


Losers of the deal:
The US who was dreaming of such a war to weaken both Iran, KSA (GCC) to control their Oil and Gas reserves.. and by the same token weaken China since these are its strategic allies in this region..

Usrael ..who had wished by all its means that this deal would have been between them and KSA..

10.03.2023
Hebrew newspaper: Saudi Arabia's agreement to resume relations with Iran is a spit in the face of Israel
 
Last edited:
What are you talking about? So you think Iran is some sort of saint that is out there to save Arab countries from evil forces yeah? 🤣😂 seems you have taken in the Mullahs propaganda to another level. Not even Iranians themselves believe that. 😂

I offered an apt description of Iranian foreign policy: its driving force is anti-imperialism, not some fictitious antagonism against Arabs - as opposed to what your rather shaky attempts at classic British "divide & conquer" would have the naive ones believe.

Dude, if that was the case why did Iran intervene in Syria to help Assad clampdown and massacre Syrian people who rose up against his dynastic Familly regime? 😂

What exactly is it you're arguing? Thatl since the victory of the 1979 Islamic Revolution, when US imperialists were expelled, relations between Iran and NATO regimes haven't been highly conflictual? That such a confrontation against a global superpower is not going to be decisive in shaping a nation's geopolitical environment? That it won't impact and to a large extent determine said nation's relationship with neighbors who happen to be western clients? To anyone believing either of these propositions, I have a bridge to sell you.

If Islamic Iran had not been challenging and mightily harming zio-American interests for the past four decades, then you as a UK citizen supportive of the ruling rehime in London wouldn't quasi systematically be talking in a negative way about Iran, namely by trying to portray the Islamic Repunblic as some sort of an expansive power out to impose its will on neighbors. On the contrary, you'de be here singing praise of Iranian policy.

Back to Syria, here's some newsflash to those who might have missed it: Syria has been a centerpiece (not just geographically) of the anti-zionist Axis of Resistance. A land bridge to the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon as well as a direct supporter of Resistance in both Lebanon and Palestine. Which is precisely why NATO, the zionists and their regional clients propped up and unleashed armies of terrorist insurgents (comprising child beheaders, cannibals, tens of thousands of volunteers from across the globe, western-supplied weapons, intelligence, training, commandment and so on) against the Syrian government and people.

Syria, a rare truly independent Arab government and one of the last to actively oppose the zionist regime after the Camp David accords, had to be eliminated so that Tel Aviv could impose hegemony over the region and keep oppressing the Palestinians unchallenged. Iran's concern was not about perpetuating any family rule, but about making sure Damascus would be spared the fate of Libya, a nation ruined and balkanized for generations as a result of cumulative aggression by NATO proxies and then NATO regimes themselves. Needless to say, had the Syrian government been toppled the situation would have devolved in a similar manner and the Axis of Resistance would have been severed for good, Hezbollah would have been made vulnerable to zionist assault.

Speaking of Hezbollah, this is the only local organization capable of neutralizing zionist threats and defeating zionist invasion of Lebanon. Furtermore Hezbollah's Resistance against the zionist enemy is the only factor which achieved to generate significant consensus and national unity in a country desperately divided along communal lines. Division lines which have nothing to do with Iran but were institutionalized in the constitution ratified in 1926, while Lebanon was under French colonial mandate.

Christian Lebanese singer Julia Boutros dedicating a musical piece to Hezbollah's Secretary General, seyyed Hassan NasrAllah (h.A.):


In fact Iran shoulf have been supporting Syrian revolution/uprising since its the same way Iranian rose up to topple the Shah dictatorship. Imagine the US/UK/Arab forces had directly intervene to help the Shah clampdown and massacre Iranians and the mullahs who rose up to topple the Shah regime you think the Mullahs would have been in power today.

Behold, the uncompromising devotee of power politics who's consistently been going on about how international politics is supposedly devoid of any semblance of ethics, is now suddenly striking a moralist chord because it suits their pro-imperial narrative.

However, there was no genuine popular revolution in Syria. We don't consider CIA-designed "color revolutions" and their more violent avatars as authentic expressions of collective popular will. Protests in Syria were instigated and directly sponsored from decision making centers in D.C., London, Paris. More importantly, armed attacks on the Syrian military began right at the outset of the crisis. Popular support enjoyed by the Syrian government is and has been considerable.

The myth of "evil Assad murdering his people because they peacefully rose up against dictatorship" is just that, a myth fabricated by the same western- and zionist-controlled mainstream media which brought us the sinister legends of the grievous legends of the Gulf of Tonkin, of an "Egyptian" strike against the USS Liberty, of Iraqi WMD in 2003 among an endless stream of similar lies.

In fact if that was the case then the leader of the Mullah Khomeini would have been imprisoned and locked up in France where he was in exile and sentenced as a terrorist. Yet that didnt happen and he was allowed to not only leave but go back and settle in Iran..

It would have happened, had the Imam (r.A.) been explicit about his anti-imperial project beforehand.

Dude get out of your the mullah are some sort of mission to save Arab countries and allow them to emancipate themselves . LMAO. you really believe that? 😂

A thousand laughter emojis won't change reality. Not just Arabs mind you, Iran's been assisting non-Muslim nations and governments in their struggle against imperialist oppressors, Venezuela being an example among others.

who asked them to be their saviour? Arab countries asked them for nothing.

All peoples of the region have fervently been longing for freedom from the imperial yoke. This has been their paramount political struggle ever since western imperialist powers stepped foot in West Asia, wrecking havoc on indigenous populations and initiating a continuous cycle of war, occupation, suppression and ruthless exploitation.

The historic record includes multiple instances of genocide against nations of the global south, including in western and southern Asia. Such as during WW1 when 10 out of 20 million Iranians lost their lives due to being subjected to starvation at the hands of the British empire, a scenario Bengalis also fell victim to. Human life means nothing to imperialist oppressors.

It wasn't Iran which created the Palestinian Resistance. Palestinians stood up against occupiers by their own volition. In their liberation struggle they would welcome practically any assistance they could find, and Iran obliged. Nor did Iran force the people of Lebanon to resent the brutal occupation of their land by the zionist military in the 1980's, when about 20.000 Lebanese were massacred in the relentless shelling of their besieged capital alone. What Iran did, was to help empower the Lebanese to realize their aspiration of fighting off the invaders in an efficient manner.

The mullah regime is doing so for their own interests and influence,

Defined as kicking NATO and zionist imperialists out of West Asia.

But to swallow mullah propaganda and actually believe this bullshit for real (like you do) of being a knight in shinning armour coming to save Arab countries is the joke of the century..😂

Keep ignoring the overarching conflict between Iran and the zio-American empire, of which recent wars in the region are but a subordinate ramification. Now that is the actual 'joke of the century'.
 
Last edited:
Winners of the deal:
KSA, Iran, China and the Middle East as a whole..no war means peace and progress..

To be noted:
China is the guarantor of the agreement and the guarantor of the implementation of the outcomes of the meeting, and do not think the Iranians will be anointing the dignity of the Chinese dragon on the ground, because they know that the response will not only be Saudi, but also Chinese..

Losers of the deal:
The US who was dreaming of such a war to weaken both Iran, KSA (GCC) to control their Oil and Gas reserves.. and by the same token weaken China since these are its strategic allies in this region..

Usrael ..who had wished by all its means that this deal would have been between them and KSA..

10.03.2023
Hebrew newspaper: Saudi Arabia's agreement to resume relations with Iran is a spit in the face of Israel
Great summary. I agree entirely.
 
Back
Top Bottom