Iran agrees to trace militants involved in Pakistan's Balochistan attack: FM

[RayKalm]

ISLAMABAD, April 20 - Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi Saturday said that his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif has agreed to trace militants involved in a recent terrorist attack in Pakistan, and take due action against them after investigations.

Addressing a press conference here, Qureshi said that the militants involved in the recent killing of 14 security personnel of passenger vans in Balochistan, have training and logistic camps in Iran, and his country wants Iran to take action against them.

A Balochistan separatism militants group claimed the attack and Pakistan has evidences that the group is hiding in Iran, Qureshi said, adding that they shared the location of the militants' camps and other actionable evidences against them with Iran after thorough investigation and confirmation.

The Pakistani foreign minister said that he had a detailed telephonic conversation with Zarif on Saturday who condemned the attack and termed it as an attack on security of Pakistan and Iran together.

Qureshi added that his country is waiting for a positive response from Iran to take action against the militants.

A group of militants intruded into Pakistan via Iran border earlier Thursday. Camouflaging themselves in Pakistani security forces' uniform, the militants offloaded 14 security personnel including 10 soldiers of Pakistan navy, three of Pakistan air force and one of Pakistan coastguards from buses and shot them dead.

Qureshi briefed that his country has already taken some useful measures to ensure security at Pak-Iran border including formation of a special force to increase vigilance at the border.

Other steps like increasing the number of paramilitary troops for patrolling and establishment of joint border centers with cooperation of Pakistan and Iran were also taken, he added.

The foreign minister said that Pakistan has decided to fence 950 km- long border with Iran with special focus on the points that are most vulnerable to militants' intrusion, adding that the work on the fencing has already been kicked off.

The two countries have decided to synchronize the border exercises, and a helicopter surveillance to monitor the border for avoiding intrusion is also under progress, Qureshi said.

He told media that Prime Minister Imran Khan will embark on an official visit to Iran on Sunday, and measures to form a mechanism to avoid militancy on both sides of the border will be discussed between Pakistani and Iranian authorities during his two-day visit.

 

[BATMAN]

Iran is playing games with Pakistan.

If Pakistan had dealt with India decisively on 27th Feb. affairs of Pakistan with Iran, India, US and Afghanistan would be much better today.

 

[Path-Finder]

where is qasim sulamani? will he personally hunt these terrorists down?

 

[IronHeart]

It wasn't long ago when the revolutionary guards were threatening to attack Pakistan:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/terr...ran-vows-revenge.601857/page-17#post-11176446

Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari:

"Why does the Pakistani army, why do ISI and Pakistan's intelligence services give shelter to these anti-revolutionary takfiri groups? We consider this giving of shelter and silence a form of support. Without doubt, Pakistani intelligence services know where the takfiris operate and plan their operations, but stay silent. The Pakistani government should know that they must pay the price for ISI's support and sheltering in their country of the Jaish ul-Adl takfiri group. And without doubt the price will be very heavy for them."

where is qasim sulamani? will he personally hunt these terrorists down?

Most likely he's the one who handpicked those terrorists for this attack.

 

[TheImmortal]

Since 2000, Pakistan has lost over 35,000 people due to terrorist attacks on its soil. You can’t blame these on Iran or India or whatever boogeyman. This is Pakistan’s incompetence.

Most terrorists attacks that happen in Pakistan happen from within by terrorist groups hiding in lawless parts.

But of course the members of this forum pick one incident among thousands and says its Iran fault. Get real. Your country has had security problems for years.

 

[Microsoft]

Since 2000, Pakistan has lost over 35,000 people due to terrorist attacks on its soil. You can’t blame these on Iran or India or whatever boogeyman. This is Pakistan’s incompetence.

Most terrorists attacks that happen in Pakistan happen from within by terrorist groups hiding in lawless parts.

But of course the members of this forum pick one incident among thousands and says its Iran fault. Get real. Your country has had security problems for years.

Ignorant. Using bullsh*t like you it's easy to conclude "Since 2000, lying about WMDs has resulted in the death of over 200,000** civilian deaths." Get updated with the times then try to construe statistics.

** VERY ROUGH ESTIMATE

 

[Titanium100]

Since 2000, Pakistan has lost over 35,000 people due to terrorist attacks on its soil. You can’t blame these on Iran or India or whatever boogeyman. This is Pakistan’s incompetence.

Most terrorists attacks that happen in Pakistan happen from within by terrorist groups hiding in lawless parts.

But of course the members of this forum pick one incident among thousands and says its Iran fault. Get real. Your country has had security problems for years.

These issues were dealt with long ago but the Terrorism spread by Iran has reached Pakistan. Iran is officially and publically out line.

Have you ever seen a freaking country involved in terrorist activity in this age and time? The answer is no forget about the rumours the ridiculous childish blame game I am talking about officially. All these other terrorist groups are non-state actors but here we have a state actor terrorist entity involved in many wars already and spreading them like wildfire. Iran dosen't believe in co-existing or peace and as matter fact they refused this.

Iranian regime is nothing more than a bunch of extremist group. You are not dealing with sane ppl here

 

[TheImmortal]

Ignorant. Using bullsh*t like you it's easy to conclude "Since 2000, lying about WMDs has resulted in the death of over 200,000** civilian deaths." Get updated with the times then try to construe statistics.

** VERY ROUGH ESTIMATE

Well this is from Pakistan Today:


Terrorism during past decade and a half has taken a huge toll on Pakistan as more than 63,000 people lost their lives so far. Terrorism in Pakistan has become a major phenomenon from the past decade, relatively declining during recent few years. 62,096 are the number of fatalities from terrorist attacks from 2003 to 2017 and 5,303 is the number of murdered people on sectarian basis from 1989 to 2017

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pa...d-in-terror-attacks-during-past-15-years/amp/

Either way wether 10,000 or 100,000 the number is beyond what is considered normal for any country that is not in civil war.

 

[Titanium100]

Well this is from Pakistan Today:


Terrorism during past decade and a half has taken a huge toll on Pakistan as more than 63,000 people lost their lives so far. Terrorism in Pakistan has become a major phenomenon from the past decade, relatively declining during recent few years. 62,096 are the number of fatalities from terrorist attacks from 2003 to 2017 and 5,303 is the number of murdered people on sectarian basis from 1989 to 2017

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pa...d-in-terror-attacks-during-past-15-years/amp/

Either way wether 10,000 or 100,000 the number is beyond what is considered normal for any country that is not in civil war.

In 2007 there was a public operation against TTP and now that is over long time ago and most of these are from that time.

You can't pin Iran's terrorist activities on TTP incidents a decade ago. that case is resolved now we have issues rising from Tehren and we will get to the bottom of that as well

 

[Microsoft]

Well this is from Pakistan Today:


Terrorism during past decade and a half has taken a huge toll on Pakistan as more than 63,000 people lost their lives so far. Terrorism in Pakistan has become a major phenomenon from the past decade, relatively declining during recent few years. 62,096 are the number of fatalities from terrorist attacks from 2003 to 2017 and 5,303 is the number of murdered people on sectarian basis from 1989 to 2017

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pa...d-in-terror-attacks-during-past-15-years/amp/

Either way wether 10,000 or 100,000 the number is beyond what is considered normal for any country that is not in civil war.

The point is terrorism related deaths are significantly decreasing. So using statistics like "decade and a half" are bullcrap since they don't show you terrorism is now an anomaly compared to 2008 or any other year from 2000-2015. Nowadays the root of these attacks is often traceable to countries such as Afghanistan, India, Iran (as is the case with this one).

Why do you think the Iranian response was "We will track the terrorists down" and not "There was no terrorism from Iran's soil"?

 

[TheImmortal]

These issues were dealt with long ago but the Terrorism spread by Iran has reached Pakistan. Iran is officially and publically out line.

Have you ever seen a freaking country involved in terrorist activity in this age and time? The answer is no forget about the rumours the ridiculous childish blame game I am talking about officially. All these other terrorist groups are non-state actors but here we have a state actor terrorist entity involved in many wars already and spreading them like wildfire. Iran dosen't believe in co-existing or peace and as matter fact they refused this.

Iranian regime is nothing more than a bunch of extremist group. You are not dealing with sane ppl here

They haven’t been dealt with and you are lying if you think they have. Osama Bin Ladin was hiding in pakistan right next to pakistan military academy. Don’t tell me situation is handled.

And there is ZERO reason for Iran to covertly attack Pakistan, Pakistan has been a neutral party in Iran v Saudi Arabia.

Balochistan has a armed seperatist movement that want independence from a iran and Pakistan.

Pakistan terrorist groups kill Iranian soldiers, so then it’s fair to say that Pakistan government supports these groups and Pakistan is not a “sane” government to deal with.

The rest of your drivel is propaganda that sounds like something a Zionist would say. Iran is not “sane” or “mullah fanatic regime” or “doesn’t want peace”, seems like Pakistan has been following Zionist propaganda very well.

Iran hasn’t declared war on a country in over 100 years meanwhile your Arab brother Saddam invaded Iran while being funded by your master Saudi Arabia with billions of dollars. When the war was over, Saudi Arabia expected Iran to forgive them for funding Saddams war effort. Iran’s beef is with Saudi Arabia.

Certainly Iran has no intention to cause security issue in pakistan. Any notion it does is absurd propaganda.

The point is terrorism related deaths are significantly decreasing. So using statistics like "decade and a half" are bullcrap since they don't show you terrorism is now an anomaly compared to 2008 or any other year from 2000-2015. Nowadays the root of these attacks is often traceable to countries such as Afghanistan, India, Iran (as is the case with this one).

Why do you think the Iranian response was "We will track the terrorists down" and not "There was no terrorism from Iran's soil"?

No the point is you first said my numbers were a lie then I gave you a source from your own country to shut your mouth.

There is no secret that there are Sunni terrorists near Iranian border inside Iran just like there is no secret there Sunni terrorists near Pakistan border inside Pakistan. Iran routinely fights these terrorists cells, but it’s a remote area.

Pakistan has been unable to stop terrorists from crossing into Iran and vice versa. But you cannot blame iran just like you guys say we can’t blame Pakistan. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

This a problem for both countries, but it’s not either country secretly trying to kill a few poor soldiers. That gains either country NOTHING.

 

[Titanium100]

They haven’t been dealt with and you are lying if you think they have. Osama Bin Ladin was hiding in pakistan right next to pakistan military academy. Don’t tell me situation is handled.

And there is ZERO reason for Iran to covertly attack Pakistan, Pakistan has been a neutral party in Iran v Saudi Arabia.

Balochistan has a armed seperatist movement that want independence from a iran and Pakistan.

Pakistan terrorist groups kill Iranian soldiers, so then it’s fair to say that Pakistan government supports these groups and Pakistan is not a “sane” government to deal with.

The rest of your drivel is propaganda that sounds like something a Zionist would say. Iran is not “sane” or “mullah fanatic regime” or “doesn’t want peace”, seems like Pakistan has been following Zionist propaganda very well.

Iran hasn’t declared war on a country in over 100 years meanwhile your Arab brother Saddam invaded Iran while being funded by your master Saudi Arabia with billions of dollars. When the war was over, Saudi Arabia expected Iran to forgive them for funding Saddams war effort. Iran’s beef is with Saudi Arabia.

Certainly Iran has no intention to cause security issue in pakistan. Any notion it does is absurd propaganda.

As I already said all these incidents are of the past and resolved but Tehren is the topic currently. We won't look past it.

Iran is the one arming all factions from PKK, Houthis, Hezbullah, recruiting pakistanis to fight in their terroristic wars aboard and arming all terrorist entities. The Fanatical mullah regime don't reason. The question is why? Because they have allowed extremism within their ranks. This will not go unnoticed

 

[TheImmortal]

As I already said all these incidents are of the past and resolved but Tehren is the topic currently. We won't look past it.

Iran is the one arming all factions from PKK, Houthis, Hezbullah and all terrorist entities. The Fanatical mullah regime don't understand anything. It would be like talking to a wall

PKK? Are you stupid? Iran and Turkey have launched operation on PJAK/PKK. Just in the past year Iran launched missiles at Headquarters of Kurdish terrorists.

It seems you are a Zionist propaganda tool who forgets history. Houthis and your Master Saudi Arabia were allies several times before this current war. Saudi Arabia aided and funded Houthis against Saleh’s Army several times and it’s well documented.

Iran’s support to Houthis has been minimal and serves to merely bleed Saudi Arabia who has committed countless war crimes and killing of thousands of civilians that even US Congress is demanding that US cut off support to that barbaric terrorist country.

Meanwhile Hezbollah defends Lebanon and fights Israel and Sunni terrorists such as Al-Queda and ISIS.

So I am done talking with you, you’re a propaganda troll.

 

[Microsoft]

No the point is you first said my numbers were a lie then I gave you a source from your own country to shut your mouth.

There is no secret that there are Sunni terrorists near Iranian border inside Iran just like there is no secret there Sunni terrorists near Pakistan border inside Pakistan. Iran routinely fights these terrorists cells, but it’s a remote area.

Pakistan has been unable to stop terrorists from crossing into Iran and vice versa. But you cannot blame iran just like you guys say we can’t blame Pakistan. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

This a problem for both countries, but it’s not either country secretly trying to kill a few poor soldiers. That gains either country NOTHING.

You're as ignorant as they come. Nowhere did I say your numbers are a lie, what's a lie is you contorting those statistics to make it sound like Pakistan's terrorism problem (today) is far more severe than it actually is.

No one is blaming Iran either here's what the Pak FM says:

"Qureshi said that the militants involved in the recent killing of 14 security personnel of passenger vans in Balochistan, have training and logistic camps in Iran, and his country wants Iran to take action against them."

This is not blaming Iran for supporting the terrorist group it's a request to take action against them. Only an idiot would think Iran would do something like this considering Imran Khan is travelling to Iran on Sunday.

 

[TheImmortal]

You're as ignorant as they come. Nowhere did I say your numbers are a lie, what's a lie is you contorting those statistics to make it sound like Pakistan's terrorism problem is far more severe than it actually is.

No one is blaming Iran either here's what the Pak FM says:

"Qureshi said that the militants involved in the recent killing of 14 security personnel of passenger vans in Balochistan, have training and logistic camps in Iran, and his country wants Iran to take action against them."

This is not blaming Iran for supporting the terrorist group it's a request to take action against them. Only an idiot would think Iran would do something like this considering Imran Khan is travelling to Iran on Sunday.

I didn’t say Pakistan is blaming Iran, Pakistan knows better.

I am saying Pakistani members of this board are blaming Iran via baseless accusations.

If Iran is supporting these groups then Pakistan is doing the same for groups inside their own soil.

Either notion is absurd. So Pakistan members of this board shouldn’t run around spreading lies and propaganda.

Balochistan of Iran is the poorest region and one of the most remote regions of Iran. These cells are very small and have ample places to hide. You find them and kill them another cell pops up.

Turkey and Iran have same problem with Kurdish terrorists. Someone is supporting these groups because without money they can’t operate. Thus it’s likely Saudi Arabia or Western/Israeli intelligence services.