Interesting Part From The Quran

[Captain03]

[Quran 7:28] They commit a gross sin, then say,
"We found our parents doing this, and GOD
has commanded us to do it." Say,
"GOD never advocates sin.
Are you saying about GOD
what you do not know?"

Doesnt this relate to al-qeada and taliban?

 

[hasang20]

Doesnt this relate to al-qeada and taliban?

it doesnt mean kill innocent people.

 

[Captain03]

is what why it doesnt say kill innocent people idiot

i dont understand ur question

 

[Luftwaffe]

Captain03 it doesn't remind me of taliban...taliban and alqaeda are different...mostly infact all of Alqaeda is funded by Americans...another thing..this verse perfectly applies to Christians Forces...plz try not to attack muslims..

 

[jeypore]

Doesnt this relate to al-qeada and taliban?

No, Al queada and Taliban believe that Islam is not followed properly. They believe they are ones are following true Islam and must lead the way. The terrorist act they are comminting are part of Jihad, which they feel they have the justification to accomplishing there goal. And you can see there arrogancy not only towards western world (christians), but also towards muslims that do not follow towards they're true versions of Islam. All my personal opinion.

By the way since i have read the Koran. This saying represents (my opinion) that any sinful act comminted and finding justification that God said so, is a Sin.

 

[Captain03]

Captain03 it doesn't remind me of taliban...taliban and alqaeda are different...mostly infact all of Alqaeda is funded by Americans...another thing..this verse perfectly applies to Christians Forces...plz try not to attack muslims..

my brother i am muslim myself
i respect ur thoughts but i believe this part of the quran refers to everyone using islam in a negative way and so far the biggest groups that have done that are the taliban and al-queda yes the christian forces fit perfectly in the quote too

 

[Captain03]

No, Al queada and Taliban believe that Islam is not followed properly. They believe they are ones are following true Islam and must lead the way. The terrorist act they are comminting are part of Jihad, which they feel they have the justification to accomplishing there goal. And you can see there arrogancy not only towards western world (christians), but also towards muslims that do not follow towards they're true versions of Islam. All my personal opinion.

By the way since i have read the Koran. This saying represents (my opinion) that any sinful act comminted and finding justification that God said so, is a Sin.

i agree with the ur last sentence, now doent u think al-queda and taliban have done that. they have used islam for their needs and motives.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Please do not disrespect or insult another's faith Luftwaffe.

You wouldn't feel so kindly if someone called Islam a 'shitty religion' now would you? So extend the same courtesy to others.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

they have used islam for their needs and motives.

Indeed they have - suicide bombings in market places, mosques, Imambargah's, Jirga's - killing and maiming innocent men, women and children - they are Takfiris.

 

[jeypore]

i agree with the ur last sentence, now doent u think al-queda and taliban have done that. they have used islam for their needs and motives.

No, there is a difference of Idelogy all together. Since the taliban and al queda believe that there religion is under attack, that it gives them justification of Jehad, which trumps above all.

There is difference in commiting a sinful act and justifing that god said so in Islam, and creating a Jihad in order to securing the religion.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Agnostic....I guess you are a muslim but you are not a practicing muslim..you do see what others write against islam but you do not have enuf to make them stop...he just made you fool when he said only opinion and u went soft on him....I have read enuf on hinduism to declare what they do and what they did in India am i bringing shame to Islam and muslims when i talk what Indians are doing to christians..muslims and sikhs in India to convert and do this and that??? Sorry sir..but u need not be biased towards me..this is just unfair whether taliban is rite or wrong first of all u cannot judge u can only present opinion incase of hindus its an open truth..Talibans are muslims whether rite or wrong u didn't say a bit to ur special friend jeypore but removed post even though most of it was true...do something if its in ur power..if not use pen or mouth against it if not consider it bad in ur heart isn't it whats in hadith??? this is forum and u went for the 3rd one when u have writing power to stop someone...well Sir now i will say its my opinion where u go soft or not but ur unfair and i am ashamed of u m mite pull over from this thread cuz ur not capable of handling things keeping things under pillow will still make a thief rob it good luck...

 

[Captain03]

No, there is a difference of Idelogy all together. Since the taliban and al queda believe that there religion is under attack, that it gives them justification of Jehad, which trumps above all.

There is difference in commiting a sinful act and justifing that god said so in Islam, and creating a Jihad in order to securing the religion.

yea but they are attacking their own religion by bombing mosques and innocent women and children
also they do suicide bombings which is extremely haram as mentioned in the Quran

 

[DarkStar]

No, Al queada and Taliban believe that Islam is not followed properly. They believe they are ones are following true Islam and must lead the way. The terrorist act they are comminting are part of Jihad, which they feel they have the justification to accomplishing there goal. And you can see there arrogancy not only towards western world (christians), but also towards muslims that do not follow towards they're true versions of Islam. All my personal opinion.

By the way since i have read the Koran. This saying represents (my opinion) that any sinful act comminted and finding justification that God said so, is a Sin.

I cannot find fault with anything that you have said. Your analysis is spot on.

Let me add, that these people are worse than even AQ.

AQ is seen as too 'lenient' by these groups, in that AQ believes in fighting the 'infidels' to evict them from muslim lands. However, these people believe that the real 'infidels' are us muslims who do not support their political views. We are their 'first' enemy, which is why you see them targetting muslims much more than non muslims.

 

[DarkStar]

Captain03 it doesn't remind me of taliban...taliban and alqaeda are different...mostly infact all of Alqaeda is funded by Americans...another thing..this verse perfectly applies to Christians Forces...plz try not to attack muslims..

let's stop blaming the americans for everything. Even if they are funding them, which I seriously doubt, isn't it shameful taht we have people in our midst who will be bought for a few dollars, and go out and kill innocent muslims and non muslims?

The Pakistani neo-Taliban are worse than AQ, because they have surpassed AQ in their violent and takfiri ideology.

 

[DarkStar]

[Quran 7:28] They commit a gross sin, then say,
"We found our parents doing this, and GOD
has commanded us to do it." Say,
"GOD never advocates sin.
Are you saying about GOD
what you do not know?"

Doesnt this relate to al-qeada and taliban?

The first and foremost context of this ayah, in surah ahraaf (the heights) seems to be people following evil traditions that they have learnt from their ancestors. They find justification in their evil/shameful/indecent actions by first invoking their parents, and then claiming that because their ancestors did so, God must have commanded. it.

So, they have turned a shameful act, a sin, into one that is held as 'good' and enjoined by God.

However, taken in its general meaning, it fits perfectly with the Taliban, AQ, or any other muslim or non muslim, who does 'evil' acts and then justifies it by claiming that they are doing the 'will of God'.

This can also be a warning to muslims, who like to follow shameful traditions of their ancestors 'culture', just because their fathers did so. Practices such as sexist attitudes towards females, honour killings, and other vices are often 'justified' using this same criterion of, 'we are doing only that which our forefathers did'.