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[MacanJawa]

Ada yang mau main ke sini?
https://defence.pk/threads/in-indon...st-ethnic-chinese-remains-unaddressed.443630/



i'll delete this post later.

Isinya orang aneh

 

[initial_d]

Kenapa ga digunakan peluru karet aja untuk dopper!?

The last time i go to that thread i was banned for a week, and we still don't heard a word from nufix, did he still being benned??

Ada yang mau main ke sini?
https://defence.pk/threads/in-indon...st-ethnic-chinese-remains-unaddressed.443630/



i'll delete this post later.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Isinya orang aneh

Sip bro, lanjutkan

The last time i go to that thread i was banned for a week, and we still don't heard a word from nufix, did he still being benned??

his bann was already lifted up, masih baper kali

Kenapa ga digunakan peluru karet aja untuk dopper!?

to instill fear and horror. You know, war supposed to mess up your mind...
Their mental should be immune to it, that's why...

 

[MacanJawa]

Soo much guest

 

[initial_d]

Yes, 3 member and 26 guest, for those silent reader, if you are indonesian, please sign up so we can share information and discuss more[/QUOTE]

 

[mengkom]

Kenapa ga digunakan peluru karet aja untuk dopper!?

rubber bullet will never be used for "dopper practice" because it tends to bounce uncontrollably
up to this day TNI uses 5.56mm FMJ bullet fired from SS series/minimi..it poses a danger because the bullet is inclined to fragmenting when it hits surface..In some instances they use 7.62x39 AK-47 but the bullet still not immune to bounce and injuring nearby soldier

the desired features of weapon/cartridge for this kind of activity are: predictable path of bullet..good penetration to mud and dirt..long range is not necessary..projectile doesn't tends to fragmenting or bounce..

this SS version uses 7.62x45mm round commonly used by Polri in their SS-1 sabhara..basically, this round is 7.62 NATO projectile neck down to 5.56 NATO cases..it has heavier projectile and fewer propellant thus lower velocity bullet that will not bounce nor fragmenting when it hits mud..
the barrel is longer and beefier to sustain constant barrage of fire and produce more stabilized path of bullet
but contrary to what the article says, longer barrel and lower velocity bullet will produce quieter sound as the propellant will be completely burned when the projectile leaves the barrel, also the projectile will never go supersonic speed..maybe the weapon is fixed with some kind of muzzle device to increase the sound decibel

 

[Kalazan]

trust me...itu artikel periatiwa 1998 di thread itu, pesanan negara kecil Utara. berkaitan tax amnesty program pemerintah kt. tujuannya nakutin pengusaha spya ragu bawa pulang simpenanya disana. harusnya ada artikell/ tread kita yg mng-kick balik itu artikel. tentu dgn mengemukakan yg baik. orng indo skrng siapa yg sugih2 banget.. orang jg semua tahu kok.

 

[MacanJawa]

trust me...itu artikel periatiwa 1998 di thread itu, pesanan negara kecil Utara. berkaitan tax amnesty program pemerintah kt. tujuannya nakutin pengusaha spya ragu bawa pulang simpenanya disana. harusnya ada artikell/ tread kita yg mng-kick balik itu artikel. tentu dgn mengemukakan yg baik. orng indo skrng siapa yg sugih2 banget.. orang jg semua tahu kok.

tau dari mana gan kalo pesanan negara sebelah?

 

[Kalazan]

tau dari mana gan kalo pesanan negara sebelah?

analisa saya

 

[initial_d]

I would like to know, do other countries, especially U.S.A, japan, or European country still do dopper training on their curriculoum? If they still do, what kind of rifle or calibre did they use?

rubber bullet will never be used for "dopper practice" because it tends to bounce uncontrollably
up to this day TNI uses 5.56mm FMJ bullet fired from SS series/minimi..it poses a danger because the bullet is inclined to fragmenting when it hits surface..In some instances they use 7.62x39 AK-47 but the bullet still not immune to bounce and injuring nearby soldier

the desired features of weapon/cartridge for this kind of activity are: predictable path of bullet..good penetration to mud and dirt..long range is not necessary..projectile doesn't tends to fragmenting or bounce..

this SS version uses 7.62x45mm round commonly used by Polri in their SS-1 sabhara..basically, this round is 7.62 NATO projectile neck down to 5.56 NATO cases..it has heavier projectile and fewer propellant thus lower velocity bullet that will not bounce nor fragmenting when it hits mud..
the barrel is longer and beefier to sustain constant barrage of fire and produce more stabilized path of bullet
but contrary to what the article says, longer barrel and lower velocity bullet will produce quieter sound as the propellant will be completely burned when the projectile leaves the barrel, also the projectile will never go supersonic speed..maybe the weapon is fixed with some kind of muzzle device to increase the sound decibel

 

[mandala]

Credit to Penkostrad.

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

Penkostrad

 

[Kalazan]

Credit to Penkostrad.

BIG BADASS...where is the Leo RI? Have they arrived in indonesia?

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

Marine Corps

@kuadikuat

 

[Bennedict]

trust me...itu artikel periatiwa 1998 di thread itu, pesanan negara kecil Utara. berkaitan tax amnesty program pemerintah kt. tujuannya nakutin pengusaha spya ragu bawa pulang simpenanya disana. harusnya ada artikell/ tread kita yg mng-kick balik itu artikel. tentu dgn mengemukakan yg baik. orng indo skrng siapa yg sugih2 banget.. orang jg semua tahu kok.

Pohon makin tinggi makin kenceng anginnya, just take that thread with a grain of salt, like it or not, that unfortunate event is what make us more socially and economically progressive now.