Indonesia Defence Forum

[Nike]

you mean this sentences from a member's comment on Vietnam thread @madokafc "Our army fears no country in SE Asia. Even their armies are united, they have little chance. We can take on hightec armies of Japan and Korea. Our biggest concern is China. She is our major security threat."

ECA Group awarded a contract for the supply of a sonar laboratory to the Indonesian Navy

ECA Group has been awarded a contract to a supply a sonar laboratory to the Indonesian Navy. The sonar laboratory is a PC based solution for the training of sonar operators using ECA Group sonar simulation system.

ECA Group sonar simulator has already been validated in the past year by customer Navy operators, who have expressed their appreciation for the extreme reliability and realism of the solution. ECA Group sonar simulation system is based on the principle of the internationally approved sonar theories.

Sonar operators can be trained in underwater and surface vessel detection, classification and identification in a virtualized environment with the same characteristics of the real operational area, such as: background noise, the bottom surface reverberation, the climatic and meteorological conditions and all the conditions that effect the sound propagation in a specific geographic area, chosen by the customer.

Navy instructors, using the user-friendly interface of our instructor software can configure realistic scenarios with increasing difficulties in order to train sonar operator from the basic to advanced level.

Tactical table with sonar console in the background
http://www.ecagroup.com/en/business...tract-supply-sonar-laboratory-indonesian-navy

thats funny considering their limited ability to projecting their forces, obsolote equipments, and limited type of training they conduct every year... not to mention limited industrial and economic out put to backing up such claims

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

you mean this sentences from a member's comment on Vietnam thread @madokafc "Our army fears no country in SE Asia. Even their armies are united, they have little chance. We can take on hightec armies of Japan and Korea. Our biggest concern is China. She is our major security threat."

http://www.ecagroup.com/en/business...tract-supply-sonar-laboratory-indonesian-navy

Retorika seperti itu jangan heran bro, mereka chauvinistnya melebihi kita, kita aja cuma pengalaman konfrontasi dgn Malaysia yg gak sukses dan operasi pembebasan Papua plus operasi invasi lawan negara macam Timor saja sudah banyak chauvinisnya apalagi mereka yg notabene mengalahkan Perancis, AS dan pernah nahan invasi RRC.
Ya pasti semangat nasionalisme berlebihannya over banget.

 

[faries]

a PC-43 M, KRI Cakalang 852. Made by PT Caputra Mitra Sejati (CMS) Shipyard Banten. Worth 74.5 billion Rupiahs.

KRI Cakalang 852 has a length of 44.40 meters, width of 7.4 meters and height of 3.4 meters amidships . The ship has 3x1.800 Hp main engine to engine speed of 2,300 rpm .

The maximum speed reached 24 knots , a cruising speed of 17 knots and a range of 1,632 Nm . Ships weighing 230 tonnes was able to load the fuel tanks up to 56,000 liters.

http://news.detik.com/berita/325727...i-tni-al?_ga=1.190281448.291077847.1430355363

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Retorika seperti itu jangan heran bro, mereka chauvinistnya melebihi kita, kita aja cuma pengalaman konfrontasi dgn Malaysia yg gak sukses dan operasi pembebasan Papua plus operasi invasi lawan negara macam Timor saja sudah banyak chauvinisnya apalagi mereka yg notabene mengalahkan Perancis, AS dan pernah nahan invasi RRC.
Ya pasti semangat nasionalisme berlebihannya over banget.

There's a difference between chauvinistic & stupid. The viets in here belong in the latter. As "chauvinistic" as you claim we to be we're not that stupid enough to claim we can beat china.

The only difference between us is that we're more informed in military matter because 99% of us are from formil.

 

[skyhigh88]

Indonesia Kills Most-Wanted Terror Leader, but New Threats Loom
Santoso was one of two men shot dead by police in a remote area of the island of Sulawesi
By BEN OTTO and ANITA RACHMAN
Updated July 19, 2016 9:47 a.m. ET
Wall Street Journal

An Indonesian counterterror squad participates in a drill earlier this year. Indonesia is concerned that the country could see a resurgence of a terrorism problem that peaked with major bombings on the resort island of Bali over a decade ago. PHOTO: EUROPEAN PRESSPHOTO AGENCY

JAKARTA, Indonesia—Security forces shot dead Indonesia’s most-wanted terrorist, giving President Joko Widodo a hard-earned victory as he contends with the threat of Islamic State influence in the world’s largest Muslim-majority nation.

Police said Tuesday that they killed two men in a jungle shootout a day earlier in a rugged, remote area on the island of Sulawesi. One of them was confirmed Tuesday to be Santoso, the alleged leader of a terrorism network known as Mujahidin Indonesia Timur. The U.S. had put Santoso and the group on a terror list for alleged links to the Middle East-based Islamic State, targeting the group with sanctions in September.

Santoso evaded capture and trained extremists for years from secret locations in hilly areas of Sulawesi. He had been the focus of more than a year of intensive counterterrorism operations involving thousands of soldiers and police.

Santoso’s death “means the symbolic heart of Indonesia’s jihadist movement is gone,” said Sidney Jones, head of the Jakarta-based Institute for Policy Analysis of Conflict. “No one else except Santoso ever pretended to control territory, and with him gone, the attention shifts to the only jihadists who do control territory’’ such as groups backing Islamic State in the neighboring Philippines, he said.

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

There's a difference between chauvinistic & stupid. The viets in here belong in the latter. As "chauvinistic" as you claim we to be we're not that stupid enough to claim we can beat china.

The only difference between us is that we're more informed in military matter because 99% of us are from formil.

im not comparing them with us here in this forum but explain about the historical background that formed their mentality. Such chauvinistic point of view is not really different than many uninformed Indonesian military fans.

 

[Nike]

im not comparing them with us here in this forum but explain about the historical background that formed their mentality. Such chauvinistic point of view is not really different than many uninformed Indonesian military fans.

Well claiming to had something u don't have is another matter though, and they do it a lot. It's lunatic

http://pustekroket.lapan.go.id/inde...-Desain-Dan-Manufaktur-Propelan-Hanwha/berita

Indonesian made and design Naval Weapon Station

 

[pr1v4t33r]

President calls for shift from arms purchase to investment
President Joko Widodo has called for changing the pattern and opting for defense investment rather than spending on defense system equipment. In a limited cabinet meeting on defense system equipment (alutsista) at his office here on Wednesday, it was noted that a lot of countries have offered cooperation in alutsista procurement.

"Please calculate (to see) which of the offers would benefit in the short-term, medium-term and long-term national interests," he advised.

President Jokowi, as he is also called, noted that transfer of technology clause in alutsista procurement was a common thing.

"This is common. Everyone offers it now, from joint designing that will give property right about a new alutsista to national industry and also reallocation of production facilities from producing countries to Indonesia," he added.

Jokowi underlined that he hoped the offers would be optimized to ensure new breakthroughs in procurement of national defense equipment.

"The new breakthroughs must result in changing our pattern of alutsista spending into preferring defense investment in the future," he stressed.

President Joko Widodo mentioned that alutsista procurement must also take into account the life which such weapon systems have.

"We must no longer buy fighter aircraft that only serve for the next 20 years," he emphasized.

To strengthen the national defense industry, he said, the process of alutsista procurement must start having government to government interaction and reduce the role of brokers.

"Reducing the role of middlemen means dealing with the problem of price mark-ups, strengthening the integrity pact and inducing zero-tolerance to corrupt practices in our country," he concluded.

http://www.antaranews.com/en/news/105809/president-calls-for-shift-from-arms-purchase-to-investment


PT Pindad looks to international acquisition
State-owned Indonesian defence company PT Pindad is moving closer to securing its first overseas acquisition, according to the firm's president, Silmy Karim.

Speaking to reporters on 19 July, Karim said PT Pindad is hoping to acquire a defence company from Europe within the next 12 months. But he did not identify the acquisition target and did not respond to questions from IHS Jane's on the planned takeover.

Karim added that the acquisition is intended not only to help PT Pindad increase its exports and revenues but also to help it develop its technological capabilities.

"Acquiring a foreign company is not just merely a matter of business," he said.

http://www.janes.com/article/62422/pt-pindad-looks-to-international-acquisition

 

[Nike]

Rws 12,7 mm designed by PT AIU, right now become arm of choice for Pc 28 patrol boat

there is on going research for larger caliber RWS

 

[Zarvan]

Saab submits Gripen bid for Indonesian fighter requirement

Indonesia has been offered the Gripen C fighter aircraft fitted with the latest MS20 capability upgrade, which is now operational on all Swedish jets and is the baseline standard for future Gripen exports. New capabilities in this version include the MBDA Meteor beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile and the Boeing GBU-39 Small-Diameter Bomb.) Source: Saab
Saab has submitted a proposal to Indonesian authorities to supply its JAS 39 Gripen multirole fighter aircraft to meet the air combat requirements of the Indonesian Air Force (TNI-AU), Peter Carlqvist, head of Saab Indonesia, has confirmed to IHS Jane's .

Carlqvist said that the proposal is flexible over the version of Gripen aircraft that can be supplied to the TNI-AU but that the company remains "100%" committed to meeting Indonesia's requirements for localised industrial participation. The proposal was submitted earlier this year, although Carlqvist said the company is still waiting for the formal bidding process to commence.

The TNI-AU requirement is long-standing and is centred on a programme to replace the service's Northrop F-5E Tiger II fighters, which entered service in 1980. The programme is expected to feature the initial acquisition of 16 aircraft for about USD1.5 billion, but could expand considerably in the future as the TNI-AU responds to growing territorial concerns within Southeast Asia.

Carlqvist said Saab has proposed the current Gripen C/D version but is also open to supplying the new Gripen E version, which was rolled out by the company in May at its Linköping production plant in Sweden. The Gripen E offers several enhancements over the C/D in terms of survivability, sensors, general systems, payload, communications, performance, range, and avionics.

"Saab has submitted a budgetary proposal for one squadron of the latest generation Gripen," said Carlqvist. "Since we know rapid delivery is important to the Indonesian Air Force, Gripen C/D is the proposed version, but if a longer delivery time is acceptable Gripen E can be offered."

Central to the proposal, he said, is Indonesia's Defence Industry Law 2012 (also known as Law Number 16) that requires foreign contractors to fully engage with local industry.

"Law 16 will be absolutely central to everything that we offer to Indonesia," he said.

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http://www.janes.com/article/62420/saab-submits-gripen-bid-for-indonesian-fighter-requirement

 

[faries]

Drone OS-Wifanusa finally pass sertification process of IMAA (Indonesian Military Airworthiness Authority).

There are two types of drone OS - Wifanusa, the first OS - Wifanusa SL - D70 ( 4.2 meter wingspan ) and OS - Wifanusa SL - D28 ( 6.4 meter wingspan ). The second type has passed military airworthiness certification test.

This two ttype of drone is capable of flying 6-8 hours and 8-10 hours with autonomous range can reach 100 km and carry sophisticated cameras for surveillance and aerial photographs for mapping purposes . Capable of taking off and landing on land or in water .

The drone has purchased three units by the Ministry of Defence to be operated in the border region and also in the EEZ Natuna .

http://defense-studies.blogspot.co.i...ikasi.html?m=1

 

[CountStrike]

Drone OS-Wifanusa

 

[Carlosa]

im not comparing them with us here in this forum but explain about the historical background that formed their mentality. Such chauvinistic point of view is not really different than many uninformed Indonesian military fans.

I'd say that there are plenty of examples of both in the vietnamese and indonesian threads, including some of the ones that are discussing this subject in this thread right now. This type of nationalism, which I considered false nationalism, only leads to distortions and false expectations.

At least the Viet members don't come to this thread to put Indonesia down, something that a particular 2 members here like to go there to do.

 

[rondo.royal2]

lucu baca post di Vietnam thread, militer yg isinya relic dr Vietnam war omdo soal jd yg terkuat di Asean. Tank yg isinya cuman kaleng macem T54 dan T62 yg jelas udah pernah di bully sama Israel pake AMX 13, Apcnya aja isinya Btr 60, ifv nya bmp 1 doangan.

thats funny considering their limited ability to projecting their forces, obsolote equipments, and limited type of training they conduct every year... not to mention limited industrial and economic out put to backing up such claims

fregat gepard 3.9 mereka ga punya medium sam, yg punya gepardnya russia.
tactical datalink nasional ga punya.
BMS ga punya.
MLRS modern kek astros MK6 ga punya.
satelit pengintai minimal kek A2 dan A3 ga punya.
sekelas caesar ga punya.
perisai kek oerlikon skyshield ga punya.
AEW ga punya.
ATGM modern( cuma matador) dikit.
heli serbu modern ga punya ( cuma mi 24A JADUL)
pesawat ASW modern ga punya .

menurut gw ,member vietnam itu goblok iya memang itu kok aslinya
gw pernah nulis ke goblok kannya dan HOAX nya member vietnam yg namanya @Viet ,dan HOAX nya @Carlosa tentang vietnam mempunyai caesar 36 biji .. yg aslinya masih akan dan akan itu pun jumlah pengadaannya 18 biji bukan 36 biji.
di SSC threadnya audrey mulai page 216.


chauvinist sih semua negara begitu ,tapi yang realistis dong .. ga usah ngeHOAX kelees. dan gw ga suka ..jijik member vietnam pamer drone mesin rotax yg diaku 4000km padahal belum pernah sekalipun di test mencapai angka 4000km kerja sama dg belarus .. negara yg belum pernah membuat MALE , harfang prancis itu mesinnya sama dg vietnam tapi operasional hariannya 1000 km lho ,kerja sama dengan israel dan pernah di test afrika prancis 5000km bukan cuma omdo ..
terus pamer rudal lisensi kct15 .. itu sampai kapan gambarnya itu lagi itu lagi .. kok ga pernah ada gambar uji coba meluncur gitu .. sombong nya naudubillah , booster,engine ,propelan,radar homing itu semua dari russia ,kalo pun diproduksi itu kek membeli tapi ngrakit dirumah .. WOW nya dimana ? cuma ngrakit ? semua negara bisa kelees ,asal ente belinya jumlah banyak ,TOT ngerakit rudal oke terkendali.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Drone for maritime patrol