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[Cromwell]

still small, divide to 3 branch in 4 years even we only build 1 opv in 4 years according the file Cromwell shared

I know it's far from being ideal, the size of this archipelagic state and what BAKAMLA gets to perform their duties but at least we're getting additional vessel.

 

[san.geuk]

Major arms acquisition usually on PLN ( Pinjaman Luar Negeri ) not in RPJMN, we use foreign loan financing.

oh I thought they use apbn

I know it's far from being ideal, the size of this archipelagic state and what BAKAMLA gets to perform their duties but at least we're getting additional vessel.

we still lags far behind from Chinese shipyard productivity then, even we have noumerous local shipyard, we may quite productive in kcr, but the gov should aim bigger ship at least opv build in kcr speed progress build pararell in several docks

 

[Nike]

Of all the things i posted including those old Belarus - Telkom mediated missiles proposals ( Osa rebranded ) & even MLU details on F-16s, everything i shared are old ones, including F-35 talks, those were of 2008

Don't be discouraged, not like he is contributed much better in the discussion

 

[Raduga]

oh I thought they use apbn


we still lags far behind from Chinese shipyard productivity then, even we have noumerous local shipyard, we may quite productive in kcr, but the gov should aim bigger ship at least opv build in kcr speed progress build pararell in several docks

citra shipyard can construct three 80m OPV ship in parallel within 2 years (more or less) periodes .

 

[Azull]

citra shipyard can construct three 80m OPV ship in parallel within 2 years (more or less) periodes .

In my view a lot of SOE and private ones can do paralel ship building at the same time. Given that they have adapt the skill to build the ship in blocks and module. I think its merely limited by funds only. If we have a lot of money to be poured into those shipyard, we would be churning out ship like peanuts.

 

[Lasa-X]

They post the file in Fb as well ??? Well i suppose it's an open public discussion now. No, PLN is outside this

Well, from what I know, PLN is included.

 

[Cromwell]

oh I thought they use apbn


we still lags far behind from Chinese shipyard productivity then, even we have noumerous local shipyard, we may quite productive in kcr, but the gov should aim bigger ship at least opv build in kcr speed progress build pararell in several docks

Oh well China has whole resources and ambitions they need, we might be facing trouble sometime later with them

 

[Cromwell]

Don't be discouraged, not like he is contributed much better in the discussion

Thanks, Sis. I mean this is defence.pk not some local military forums, 1st we communicate in English and 2nd we're not somekind of JKTGTR or Indo****** or De***** S****** where the members believe on what he implies as " state secrecy ", no this is defence.pk

 

[Cromwell]

Well, from what I know, PLN is included.

Usually they're more explained in details in each Ministry, probably i haven't read 1200 pages entirely

 

[Gundala]

We're getting another 110M OPV unit ( 2021 - 2024 procurement ) & other stuffs
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100% Harwat, I like this already. Tho its sometime good on paper in reality that harwat often shifted for operational expenses. Perumahan prajurit bertambah juga, this I like the most. Those sersan and balok need to have more kesejahteraan.

oh I thought they use apbn

Setelah uang cicilan/uang muka dibayarkan baru itu diposting sebagai bagian dari kemenhan budget/apbn sepertinya. Kalau PLN dihitung (sebelum dibayar lunas) sebagai bagian dari purchasing kemenhan maka def budget kita bisa lebih dari yg saat ini tercantum dan merubah persentase terhadap GDP. ( pretty much like accrual vs cash basis accounting method).

 

[Nike]

Thanks, Sis. I mean this is defence.pk not some local military forums, 1st we communicate in English and 2nd we're not somekind of JKTGTR or Indo****** or De***** S****** where the members believe on what he implies as " state secrecy ", no this is defence.pk

I more into info with actual fact prove to backing up the argument. Such hearsay it is not suited to be talked into open forum like this one, not one where our supposed "competitor" up north is roaming in number and herds.

 

[Cromwell]

I more into info with actual fact prove to backing up the argument. Such hearsay it is not suited to be talked into open forum like this one, not one where our supposed "competitor" up north is roaming in number and herds.

I understand your reason, noted. Thank you

 

[Cromwell]

100% Harwat, I like this already. Tho its sometime good on paper in reality that harwat often shifted for operational expenses. Perumahan prajurit bertambah juga, this I like the most. Those sersan and balok need to have more kesejahteraan.

Setelah uang cicilan/uang muka dibayarkan baru itu diposting sebagai bagian dari kemenhan budget/apbn sepertinya. Kalau PLN dihitung (sebelum dibayar lunas) sebagai bagian dari purchasing kemenhan maka def budget kita bisa lebih dari yg saat ini tercantum dan merubah persentase terhadap GDP. ( pretty much like accrual vs cash basis accounting method).

Servicemen welfare is usually forgotten away. I mean compared with Australia, we're still far away. I've seen Royal Australian Navy advertisement not only providing much better welfare, they provide their servicemen opportunity on taking academic degree or skills important in civilian life, like cooks or other skills so when they retire from active duty they can pursue other career.

 

[Chestnut]

Of all the things i posted including those old Belarus - Telkom mediated missiles proposals ( Osa rebranded ) & even MLU details on F-16s, everything i shared are old ones, including F-35 talks, those were of 2008

Wait what/who are you talking about?

 

[umigami]

Of all the things i posted including those old Belarus - Telkom mediated missiles proposals ( Osa rebranded ) & even MLU details on F-16s, everything i shared are old ones, including F-35 talks, those were of 2008

Don't be discouraged, not like he is contributed much better in the discussion

Thanks, Sis. I mean this is defence.pk not some local military forums, 1st we communicate in English and 2nd we're not somekind of JKTGTR or Indo****** or De***** S****** where the members believe on what he implies as " state secrecy ", no this is defence.pk

To whom are you two talking with?