Indonesia Defence Forum

[initial_d]

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typical hippocrities of western journalism, independent my ***

 

[Nike]

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typical hippocrities of western journalism, independent my ***

Thats why you need the police to taking care of them, dont let the armed forces to joint the hunt directly . Armed forces only needed for their assistance roles like intelligent gathering, to lift the Brimob units by helicopter and other support roles

 

[Chestnut]

Totally agree, our local defense industry is more than capable to produce 4x4 wheeled multipurpose LAV, hopefully the Marine will choose the same 4x4 that has been operated by the Army/AF

Anyway, Turangga is an APC not MRAP, it has the same protection level as Anoa (CMIIW)

in 2012 or so US offering their used Humvee for marine corps, but it seems they not take it.

I think we should just stick to local made system in this case, if they want MRAP they should go for Turangga, if they want light apc, ILTV should be a choice, if they want all rounder Komodo all the way

South Korean seems fancy the possibility of operating Mini aircraft carrier , eventhough they dont have large ocean territory unlike certain Big archipelago country in the South

https://twitter.com/x/status/1259765364361134080

IIRC they didn't take it nor were they looking for locally made vehicles due to wanting the MRAP having amphibious capability. That narrows it down to either the Protolab MiSu or the Russian Typhoon-K.

 

[initial_d]

if it's only mrap, i think our local industries can develop and manufactur it, no need buying it from other country's or license build from foreign product, for me i like the israely wildcat mrap design, we could just "copy" the design

 

[Chestnut]

Like I said, so far there's no amphibious capable MRAP available that is locally made, hence why they were looking abroad. If you can get Protolab or KAMAZ to agree to local production then whatever, but for the most part the military isn't going to wait for local companies to design, test, and retool their factories to produce a vehicle when one is already commercially available. Nationalism be damned.

 

[Jatosint]

Yup, sometimes it's better to just buy off-the-shelf weaponry, especially if you only want to buy it in small numbers

Kecuali kalau emang kebutuhan amphibious MRAP-nya udah kyk Anoa/Komodo yang ratusan jadi bisa nutup biaya RnD dan lini produksi baru

 

[Kansel]

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im pretty sure due to current condition , not much discussion/talk about it happened in our mindef .

But so far, which producer joined this program besides Fincantieri?

 

[striver44]

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typical hippocrities of western journalism, independent my ***

Popular front is a project of jake hanrahan which btw supports any kind of separatism including kurdish marxist separatism.

 

[Chestnut]

well, he's entitled to those opinions. The best we could do is just win the hearts and minds campaign on the ground rather than start a pointless social media blackout. It's better to just win the attention of those actually affected than those of outside observers.

 

[Nike]

Credit to Angkasa Review, there is info about Navy accepting shipments of large batch Komodo Armaments rifle

Hope they interested on the Eli gun the company offered, can be a good tandem on their Apc and patrol boats

 

[Jatosint]

I'm not following Komodo Armamanet news since they first appeared in our defense market

Are their products 100% made in Indonesia? Did they design their product by themselves?

 

[Raduga]

RM-70 salvo , source : Excalibur army website​

 

[Nike]

I'm not following Komodo Armamanet news since they first appeared in our defense market

Are their products 100% made in Indonesia? Did they design their product by themselves?

They are made in Indonesia no doubt, but they are Tanfoglio licensed production units in Indonesia to capture ASEAN and Oceania market

 

[Raduga]

I'm not following Komodo Armamanet news since they first appeared in our defense market

Are their products 100% made in Indonesia? Did they design their product by themselves?

kalo saya lihat dari database nato , komodo armament ini anak perusahaan nya Tanfoglio (itali) , berharap leonardo juga invest disini bikin anak perusahaan .

 

[Jatosint]

They are made in Indonesia no doubt, but they are Tanfoglio licensed production units in Indonesia to capture ASEAN and Oceania market

I see

Wonder how TNI feel about Komodo's rifle, I mean in terms of weight their rifle is more superior than SS-series: 30% lighter than SS2-V1 thanks to polymer material and skeletonized handguard