Indonesia Defence Forum

[Nike]

I think it will use 2 drop tanks.

This Lapan Fighter Experiment should not be competing with PT DI KFX/IFX, I am okay to drop LFX in favour of KFX/IFX.

As long as Lord Luhut got his fair share All will be well

 

[NEKONEKO]

I wanna to bring my needle there

Erection time 15 hours. Lenny face.jpg
Also your needle is small and blunt.

 

[Kansel]

But i am more inclined to joint Boeing Australian DoD loyal wingman program though, they are very promising and when we can acquire F16 V, F 35 and Wedgetail as parents aircraft thats a real force multiplier.

Couldn't agree more, i hope MoD and Airforce guys consider this option.

 

[Fl0gger]

Well thats had been going on lately

wkwkwkw....

 

[Chaplin009x]

Unfortunately this means that your sales team, or perhaps even your company, is part of the problem by continually perpetuating this habit... No different to those corrupt politicians or TNI officials in the receiving end..



As much as the above is good news, we also need to remember.. What the US can easily give, the US can easily take away... example in the article below :

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/11/tru...iraq-could-lose-new-york-fed-account-wsj.html

Let's not treat this as some free lunch money...



Yes and the US also supported PRRI and Permesta rebellions to the point of actually sending troops and equipment, assisted in the roundup and massacre of PKI members, supported - or even pushed for - our illegal invasion of TL for cold war purposes, and in the end forced us out when the cold war is over + embargo.. Which is the main reason why we have Sukhois today instead of more F-16s and the entrenched mindset of multi-sourcing our alutsista instead of relying 100% to the west.

Every major power will always use lesser powers to secure their own needs and advantages.. No point in worshiping one and demonizing the other... We are the ones that need to see the bigger picture instead of blindly following the narratives of one party.. and act accordingly that best suits our own needs..

Are you Kadrun? Ah no, why am I also a racist. My Indonesian friend, I understand what you are worried about

 

[striver44]

Are you Kadrun? Ah no, why am I also a racist. My Indonesian friend, I understand what you are worried about

dude what you're talking about??

 

[Chestnut]

Couldn't agree more, i hope MoD and Airforce guys consider this option.

Most people on Formils have no idea how people in the Air Force are obnoxiously pro-US. For the most part, by-and-large our Air Force infrastructure is built to support Western made aircraft (specifically US made ones). This is the reason why even during an embargo our F-16's can still fly whereas even now the Flankers are mostly relegated to for reserve operations. The supporting infrastructure and network is still there and we can still procure parts from elsewhere as long as the US gives the nod to the parties that are selling the parts.

The people you see who support Russian/Chinese equipment are more often than not outgoing officers looking to go into politics (and need the money courtesy of Rosonoboronexport) or under the pockets of agent companies. Or politicians who are very much in the same bed.

It's also pretty ironic that you see these same people using the platform of neutrality and non-alignment as a smokescreen for them to corrupt from deals that are notoriously non-transparent.

 

[Nike]

dude what you're talking about??

Me bring needle when some one bring that ultra big balloon!!!!

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not related directly to Indonesia but atleast Army doesnt need to worry about the availability of Poprad spare parts system in near future as Poland itself starting to use them

http://polska-zbrojna.pl/Mobile/ArticleShow/30691

 

[Chaplin009x]

Well the capture and public display of Allen Pope did wonders at the time... that and the fact that the TNI of the time is also a somewhat capable and reliable power (at least compared to the rebels or communists)... But still, in the end the US got what it wanted, the removal of Soekarno, the rise of Soeharto and the change of our political orientation after the G30S movement, and as a bonus the destruction of the 3rd largest communist party in the world + destruction of TL as a potential communist base in SEA... and with minimal cost too.. Of course after Suharto is no longer useful he'll have to go too...

PRC aggressiveness in SCS is a matter of concern of course, but so far is mostly a matter of border friction and overlapping fishing claims rather than any full blown invasion threat... We can continue countering it with what we are already currently doing, but perhaps with more haste... Continue the build up of the Natuna base with better equipment and alutsista.. Increase regular patrols in the North Natuna Sea (both by Navy and Coast Guard), increase surveillance of the area through air patrols, drones, and satellites even, increase military trainings in the area (preferably with other ASEAN countries as well from time to time)... increase the number of our fisherman fleet in the area + educate and provide them with comm gear to act as another layer of surveillance... increase the civilian maritime infrastructure in the Natuna islands (Ports, Fish processing, Ship repair, Storage, Fuel depot, Electricity, Telecom, etc)... Increase gas / oil exploration and extraction activities in the area...

Diplomatically PRC is already isolated in the SCS issue (no other country is supporting their claim) so getting any diplomatic support should not be an issue, but we need to work better with other ASEAN members (at least with those having the same issues) so that we can speak in one voice against these PRC incursions... Publicly protest every known incursions so everyone knows that we are keeping a very close look at the area... Oh and of course, keep improving our already good relationship with all the other powers while increasing our own economic and military strength...

Well there are actually many other things we can still do to try to discourage the PRC from getting within our EEZ.. Formally allying with the US might perhaps be one of them, but that doesn't seem to help much in the case of the Phillipines.. and neither is the FPDA much help to the Malaysians in this case too... So unless there are strong indications of PRC going the Imperial Japan way, we should not be too hasty in joining an alliance or such..

Sungguh mencerahkan

 

[umigami]

Baku Tembak dengan Teroris MIT di Poso, Seorang Polisi Tertembak
Can we just search their compound and and do precision air strike to those Fucking Daesh goat fucker??
Come on! Our F16 will receive GBU 54 shortly..

 

[Cromwell]

For light fighter program we should looking for appropriate design like Textron scorpion or Cezch made light fighter aircraft. Well if want to closing at all our defense industry relationship with South Korean....

At start i was actually thinking about KAI FA-50
Anyway from World Defense Fb page

 

[Kansel]

Does our Airforce and MoD doesn't consider EW specialized aircraft? IMO, that thing gonna do a vital job on modern warfare.

Meanwhile our Southern neighbour ramping up their EW fleet, good for them though.
https://www.janes.com/article/95483...50s-for-their-electronic-warfare-support-role

Maybe considering joining up with Turks?
https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-...-up-stand-off-jammer-programme/132514.article

 

[Raduga]

Does our Airforce and MoD doesn't consider EW specialized aircraft? IMO, that thing gonna do a vital job on modern warfare.

Meanwhile our Southern neighbour ramping up their EW fleet, good for them though.
https://www.janes.com/article/95483...50s-for-their-electronic-warfare-support-role

Maybe considering joining up with Turks?
https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-...-up-stand-off-jammer-programme/132514.article

yeah turks got a very good EW stuff , the Koral jammer especially with their latest showdown in syria just straight up silence the Russian made air defense .

dont compare us with australia lol , they planned everything very well and consistent with their future projection, while our administration simply inconsistent between regime change and does not really have clear prospect to the future , that Loyal Wingman will be game changer for sure .

 

[Jatosint]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1250379058749161473

 

[Chestnut]

Does our Airforce and MoD doesn't consider EW specialized aircraft? IMO, that thing gonna do a vital job on modern warfare.

Meanwhile our Southern neighbour ramping up their EW fleet, good for them though.
https://www.janes.com/article/95483...50s-for-their-electronic-warfare-support-role

Maybe considering joining up with Turks?
https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-...-up-stand-off-jammer-programme/132514.article

Don't hope for much from a bunch of boomers that outright refuse to adapt to the 21st century or listen to their more tech-savvy subordinates.