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[Nike]

Indonesia must accelerate technological development of defense radar
25th Jul 2019 23:30

Director General of Innovation Strengthening at the Ministry of Research, Technology, & Higher Education, Jumain Appe, on the Navy's ship in order to test anti-radar paint at Mutiara Beach, Penjaringan, North Jakarta, Friday.

Jakarta (ANTARA) - Director of Innovation System at the Ministry of Research, Technology, & Higher Education, Ophirtus Sumule, said that Indonesia must accelerate technological development and the industrialization of defense radars.

"Indonesia faces a lack of radar instruments because this technology is still relatively expensive," Sumule said in a statement received in Jakarta on Thursday.

The availability of radars in Indonesia is still relatively low compared to its vast territory.

There are still many areas in Indonesia that are not monitored by existing radars, especially remote areas and mountainous locations. "Therefore, 77Indonesia should master the technology of radar control through the transfer of technology," Ophirtus said.

The capabilities that must be provided in developing radar include design capabilities, mechanical construction, electronics, information, technology and networking, and material technology.

The implementation of technology audit with the funding of the Directorate General of Innovation Strengthening of the Ministry of Research, Technology and Higher Education, in 2019 is an audit of the radar industry technology.

The implementation of the audit of radar industry technology should be carried out to identify the status of development, engineering and manufacturing of defense radar products; identify and analyze technology capability, technology content, and technology transfer; provide recommendations in the context of accelerating technological development and the industrialization of defense radars.Related news: Minister does trial test of local-made radar to anticipate ship accidents

Related news: Indonesian Air Force to install another radar in W. Kalimantan

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[Cromwell]

@Marine Rouge
I alway wonder, what is that dumb bomb?
Looks old school,
why still use it?
Is there greater advantage from MK series?
Our air force start using mk84 too right?

After 2nd thought, the bomb is no Russian FAB, more like old stocks of Mk.12

 

[Nike]

After 2nd thought, the bomb is no Russian FAB, more like old stocks of Mk.12 View attachment 570840

Late model M117 free falls bombs, come to Indonesia along with the purchase of A4 skyhawk from Philippine. Old bomb school got more explosive content compared to Mk 80 series

 

[Cromwell]

CCIB ( Command & Control Interoperability Board ) 2019
Dialogue on managing interoperability between US Indo-Pacific Command & Republic of Indonesia Ministry of Defence

Credit to ODC ( Office of Defence Cooperation ) Indonesia

 

[umigami]

CCIB ( Command & Control Interoperability Board ) 2019
Dialogue on managing interoperability between US Indo-Pacific Command & Republic of Indonesia Ministry of Defence
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Credit to ODC ( Office of Defence Cooperation ) Indonesia

ini acara kaya apa sih,
seminar?
studi banding?
penjajakan awal?
bakal ada langkah yang lebih serius ga?
nanti yg disini udah pada senang bakal ada BMS dan Interoperability
gataunya yg di Dephan dan TNI cuma angin lalu doang

 

[Nike]

ini acara kaya apa sih,
seminar?
studi banding?
penjajakan awal?
bakal ada langkah yang lebih serius ga?
nanti yg disini udah pada senang bakal ada BMS dan Interoperability
gataunya yg di Dephan dan TNI cuma angin lalu doang

Just look at our training program with them (Aussie and US), then look at most of our recent procurement and capability building and you will get what it means. We are surely leaning our military capability building program toward NATO standard, even standalone hardware like Russian BMP or Flanker is just a receh compared to the more bigger pictures.

 

[Cromwell]

ini acara kaya apa sih,
seminar?
studi banding?
penjajakan awal?
bakal ada langkah yang lebih serius ga?
nanti yg disini udah pada senang bakal ada BMS dan Interoperability
gataunya yg di Dephan dan TNI cuma angin lalu doang

Continuation the previous article i shared from TNI official site. If you pay attention on the institution name CCIB, you figure it out.

Air Commodore Arif Mustofa ( TNI-AU ) during Exercise Red Flag 2019 in Elmendorf Richardson AFB, Alaska.

Credit to Angkasa Review

 

[umigami]

Just look at our training program with them (Aussie and US), then look at most of our recent procurement and capability building and you will get what it means. We are surely leaning our military capability building program toward NATO standard, even standalone hardware like Russian BMP or Flanker is just a receh compared to the more bigger pictures.

we still have some "batu sandungan" toward NATO standard,
chinese BMS in some of our ship, flanker and their armament, chinese weapon (arhanud, QW3, etc), and most importantly "pemikiran kuno" that infect some of our military personal, etc.

Or network centric warfare, or force multipliers, or anything that actually provides a credible deterrence and is more than just a big cannon that impresses literally no one but themselves.



Because they don't think. They're boomers. They don't think anything is gonna happen until it's knocking at their door and they they blame the millennials for not stopping it.

But on a more serious note. The hubris of 'seniority' that is prevalent in Indonesian culture is among the leading causes of this phenomena. A lot of the younger officers I work with understand the need for more force multipliers and support equipment. A lot these younger officers have better schooling, better training, and better sense than the older guys. The problem is nobody listens to them. Because apparently in Indonesia being younger than someone else means you know less than them.

And it's not just in the TNI. Even in my old firm, my boss causes a lot of the problems he faces because he didn't want to listen to me that some weapons systems were completely incompatible with certain weapons systems. And when he hits a deadlock, I'm the one that gets blamed because apparently I didn't "warn him enough".

At this point the best we can do is wait for the old farts to die off. Only then can we really clean up the mess that they made.

The future is now boys, and these dinosaurs can either step aside or just drown in their own hubris.

I really hope they seriously do it this time

 

[HellFireIndo]

we still have some "batu sandungan" toward NATO standard,
chinese BMS in some of our ship, flanker and their armament, chinese weapon (arhanud, QW3, etc), and most importantly "pemikiran kuno" that infect some of our military personal, etc.

This CCIB exist for a reason, as long as the Panglima and the General Staff supports this program it will happen, small fry generals with no imagination will obviously be sidelined, cause who the hell would promote someone with no good idea? We're talking about about something basic yet covers the Military as a whole, and involves cooperation with the US in the long-term, there's no way this is just "acara ngopi", the higher-up with the authority and a good idea must have paid attention to this.

 

[Nike]

Btw, sometimes i got funny thought, among ASEAN countries only Philippine who get MDT treaty with the US and only them who on the paper is a rightfull Ally of USA in which the both country acknowledge those pacts by law. But only Philippine who get the least compability and interopabiity with the modern US armed forces as they just using mostly archaic hardware and most of their combat and CONOPS still persist on post WW II and Korean war era. They even cant sharing and relaying data feeds because lack of platform with LINK 16 capability. Meanwhile Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand (none of them sign MDT with USA) is being exposed with US armed forces way of war and capable to assist them at certain degree in modern warfare.

 

[Cromwell]

Btw, sometimes i got funny thought, among ASEAN countries only Philippine who get MDT treaty with the US and only them who on the paper is a rightfull Ally of USA in which the both country acknowledge those pacts by law. But only Philippine who get the least compability and interopabiity with the modern US armed forces as they just using mostly archaic hardware and most of their combat and CONOPS still persist on post WW II and Korean war era. They even cant sharing and relaying data feeds because lack of platform with LINK 16 capability. Meanwhile Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand (none of them sign MDT with USA) is being exposed with US armed forces way of war and capable to assist them at certain degree in modern warfare.

Well the biggest confusion of mine regarding Philippines is their current situation in West Philippines Sea, they could've enforced UNCLOS result by using MDT with US, that MDT could be applied to drive China out from Spratly is. & Scarborough Shoals, yet here we are watching Rodrigo Duterte ignoring previous Aquino's works. All efforts using MDT i know is sending rusty WW2 era LST BRP Sierra Madre in disputed area while keeping the dying & rotting ship remains active & manned ( more like floating island ), the concept they think, an attack againts Philippines flagged active military vessel would invoke MDT with US. Perhaps they should've kept Subic Bay & Clark AFB leased to US in 1990s.

 

[Nike]

Well the biggest confusion of mine regarding Philippines is their current situation in West Philippines Sea, they could've enforced UNCLOS result by using MDT with US, that MDT could be applied to drive China out from Spratly is. & Scarborough Shoals, yet here we are watching Rodrigo Duterte ignoring previous Aquino's works. All efforts using MDT i know is sending rusty WW2 era LST BRP Sierra Madre in disputed area while keeping the dying & rotting ship remains active & manned ( more like floating island ), the concept they think, an attack againts Philippines flagged active military vessel would invoke MDT with US. Perhaps they should've kept Subic Bay & Clark AFB leased to US in 1990s.

If Subic and Clarck still under US control geopolitic situation in the region would be very different from today situation. Hell, i dont want to know what kind of funny thought US might had during 1998 and Timor crisis in 1999. They are indeed a good friend from afar but i clearly know they are a worst neighbor, far worse than China if i might say.

 

[Cromwell]

If Subic and Clarck still under US control geopolitic situation in the region would be very different from today situation. Hell, i dont want to know what kind of funny thought US might had during 1998 and Timor crisis in 1999. They are indeed a good friend from afar but i clearly know they are a worst neighbor, far worse than China if i might say.

Well for me, i think Vietnam is the worst neighbour we ever have. In all these illegal fishing saga, we encounter them the most frequent and some incidents even lead to involvement of their fishing agency to our law legal process within our EEZ, just look at Fb page screenshoots from Vietdefense, they admitted themself when they rescued sunken Filipino fishermen in Recto Bank, they were actually stealing fish in Philippines EEZ yet they acted as if they were the heroes, rescuing poor unfortunate Filipino after collision with Chinese ship while actually they were thieves themself. Btw, is it just me or anyone else also feel Vietnamese forumers here are bit delussional & sometimes " insane ", i read some threads of them and i think No, i don't want to interact with these lunatics.

M3 Amphibious Rig
Credit to : Fb page Lembaga Kajian Pertahanan Negara Strategis

 

[HellFireIndo]

Well for me, i think Vietnam is the worst neighbour we ever have. In all these illegal fishing saga, we encounter them the most frequent and some incidents even lead to involvement of their fishing agency to our law legal process within our EEZ, just look at Fb page screenshoots from Vietdefense, they admitted themself when they rescued sunken Filipino fishermen in Recto Bank, they were actually stealing fish in Philippines EEZ yet they acted as if they were the heroes, rescuing poor unfortunate Filipino after collision with Chinese ship while actually they were thieves themself. Btw, is it just me or anyone else also feel Vietnamese forumers here are bit delussional & sometimes " insane ", i read some threads of them and i think No, i don't want to interact with these lunatics.

M3 Amphibious Rig
Credit to : Fb page Lembaga Kajian Pertahanan Negara Strategis

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Well, i've been in a shitshow with these VietKongs, along with other Indonesian forumers like Nufix, Striver44 and Sis Marine Rouge, in the thread about that video of Viet CG ramming Indonesian Navy Parchim Corvette. They're kinda funny, the first one i talked to was delusional and repeatedly sprouting nonsense that Viet public wants a war with Indonesia, but then we roasted him and then he cried out for the mods, writing love letter and accusing us of being trolls (while he's the bigger troll obviously). The second one apparently a "senior" member of this forum and is quite stubborn, but like to make stupid assumption out of nowhere, and is quite elitist despite coming from a socialist country. The third one was apparently a VietKong Pilot, quite dumb and can't control his words, many backfired to him and his friends.

What i observed is that, there's a damn good reason of why they were often ravaged by war, as diplomacy is not really their strongest suite, and it seems like they easily made new enemy, like, it was first just Indo vs Viet trashtalk, but then the Chinese, the Pakistanis and the Indians came and felt insulted by these Viets' reckless statements, and then join our side in the trashtalk.

 

[Cromwell]

Well, i've been in a shitshow with these VietKongs, along with other Indonesian forumers like Nufix, Striver44 and Sis Marine Rouge, in the thread about that video of Viet CG ramming Indonesian Navy Parchim Corvette. They're kinda funny, the first one i talked to was delusional and repeatedly sprouting nonsense that Viet public wants a war with Indonesia, but then we roasted him and then he cried out for the mods, writing love letter and accusing us of being trolls (while he's the bigger troll obviously). The second one apparently a "senior" member of this forum and is quite stubborn, but like to make stupid assumption out of nowhere, and is quite elitist despite coming from a socialist country. The third one was apparently a VietKong Pilot, quite dumb and can't control his words, many backfired to him and his friends.

What i observed is that, there's a damn good reason of why they were often ravaged by war, as diplomacy is not really their strongest suite, and it seems like they easily made new enemy, like, it was first just Indo vs Viet trashtalk, but then the Chinese, the Pakistanis and the Indians came and felt insulted by these Viets' reckless statements, and then join our side in the trashtalk.

Well reading their threads i know something sick/lost in their minds that i know the best not to interact with those lunatics.