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[Reashot Xigwin]

Malaysia interested in Indonesian-made CN295 planes

Fri, May 31 2013 22:47 |

CN295 transport plane

This is a good initial step for the two neighboring Asean member states."


Kuala Lumpur (ANTARA News) - The Malaysian government has expressed keen interest in buying Indonesian-made CN295 military transport aircraft, considering it is very competitive particularly in Southeast Asia, Indonesian Deputy Defense Minister Lt. Gen. (ret) Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin said.

"The presence of the Malaysian air force chief and other air force and police officers (in the road show) indicates that they have great interest in making an observation of CN295 aircraft," Sjafrie said on the sidelines of CN295 military transport aircraft road show at Subang airport in Malaysia on Friday.

Sjafrie said he had earlier met with Malaysian counterpart who responded positively to a plan for an observation of CN295.

"This is a good initial step for the two neighboring Asean member states," he said.

But he stopped short of revealing how many CN295s the Malaysian government was interested to buy.

Besides Malaysia, Sjafrie said other Asean member states to which he had visited such as the Philippines, Brunei Darussalam, Thailand and Myanmar also had given positive responses to the aircraft whose several parts of components were produced domestically.

"During my trip to a number of Asean member states, they gave positive responses to the aircraft. In the Philippines, we also took part in a limited tender. In Thailand, Myanmar and Vietnam, the aircraft also has good market prospect," he said.

The CN295 is made by state aircraft maker PT Dirgantara Indonesia (DI) in Bandung, West Java.

Asked about the financing of the aircraft`s production, he said PT DI had good capacity so it would not be a problem for banks to support it.

"About funds, it is not difficult for PT DI because it has good capacity and even many of its products have penetrated the global market. Several of its products such as wings has been exported to Spain and other 14 countries," he said.

PT DI President Director Budi Santoso meanwhile said the company was focusing on fulfilling the Indonesian military (TNI)`s order.

"Hopefully, the TNI`s order can be met this year. After that, we will meet orders from neighboring countries," he said.
(T.N004/S012/B003)

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Antara News : Malaysia interested in Indonesian-made CN295 planes

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Just pictures: Photos of Kopaska (Frogmen) Counter-Terror simulation near Suramadu Bridge.

http://www.centroone.com/photo/2013/y/simulasi-penanganan-terorisme-di-suramadu/

 

[Inoyasha2]

US to step up military ties with Indonesia

The United States will step up its military cooperation with Indonesia, Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel said in Singapore on Friday after meeting his Indonesian counterpart Purnomo Yusgiantoro.

"The two leaders reaffirmed the importance of deepening ties (and) reviewed progress made in recent years to increase exercises and training, as well as regular defense policy dialogues," Pentagon spokesman George Little said after the meeting.

The two defence ministers met on the sidelines of Singapore's annual security forum, the Shangri-La Dialogue, organised by the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS).

Hagel recalled the importance of respect for human rights as a prerequisite for deeper military ties and "discussed American support for Indonesia's military modernisation, including through US foreign military sales," Little said.

US interest in boosting military ties with Indonesia is in line with President Barack Obama's "pivot", or strategic shift, to the Pacific region announced in January 2012 after a decade of wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Obama, who spent part of his childhood in Indonesia, put a priority in his first term on building ties with the world's most populous Muslim-majority country, which has quickly embraced democracy since the 1990s.

While some experts see the warming ties as more rhetorical than substantive, the United States has notably boosted relations with Indonesia's military after earlier concerns about a special forces unit's human right record.






*taken form bangkokpost, my post still under 30 so i cant post the url yet.

*US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel arrives at the opening of the 12th Asia Security Summit Shangri-La Dialogue 2013 in Singapore on May 31, 2013. The United States will step up its military cooperation with Indonesia, Hagel said in Singapore on Friday after meeting his Indonesian counterpart Purnomo Yusgiantoro.

 

[Inoyasha2]

Indonesia, Malaysia to have joint military exercise in June
14:30, May 28, 2013

JAKARTA, May 28 (Xinhua) -- Indonesia and Malaysian militaries are to jointly conduct military exercise in North Sumatra of Indonesia from June 7 to 12, a senior Indonesian military official said here on Tuesday.

Vice Admiral Widodo, deputy assistant for Indonesian military commander said that the exercise was aimed at boosting professionalism of military officers from both countries.

Officers from the two countries are expected to exchange their expertise and experience, he said.

"Carry out the exercise well to reach the goal of the event," Widodo told Indonesian participants here.

"Use the momentum of Indonesia-Malaysia joint exercise to share knowledge, as an effort to boost skill and professionalism," he said.

Military in the region, including those from Indonesia and Malaysia, face great challenges, such as terrorism and transnational crimes, he noted.



taken from People Daily Online

 

[Ahmad1969]

Hi guys,

The figures above are completely misleading and not correct (the source of this comparison is EADS!!).
C295 has limited fuselage height (6,3'' vs 8,6'' for C27J). C295 is not a cargo aircraft is just a civilian project that has been reconverted for military use. Performances are very poor and the Limited space of the fuselage a major issue.
P.S.
The picture of the C27j you posted is of a...G222 (built in 1978)
Thanks

 

[Fsjal]

How many will Indonesia will get for the CN295?

 

[nufix]

Hi guys,

The figures above are completely misleading and not correct (the source of this comparison is EADS!!).
C295 has limited fuselage height (6,3'' vs 8,6'' for C27J). C295 is not a cargo aircraft is just a civilian project that has been reconverted for military use. Performances are very poor and the Limited space of the fuselage a major issue.
P.S.
The picture of the C27j you posted is of a...G222 (built in 1978)
Thanks

Red: Explain further because the data are similar to this one which is directly issued by Airbus itself: http://www.c295.ca/wp-content/uploads/C295-Comparison-Chartmay26.pdf

Blue: The fuselage height indeed enables C27 J spartan to carry larger-bulkier shaped cargoes, but the longer floor the C295 has, may suit containerized cargoes better as well as enabling the plane to carry more troops. Unlike C 27 J, C/CN 295 is designed to be multi platform where C 27 J is designed mainly as lift-aircraft, that's why there are many similarities between C 130 Hercules and C 27 Spartan. But does C 130 or C 27 J also perform submarine hunting or perform AEW mission, the way C/CN 295 does MPA, AEW, and ASuW? Nope.

Green: Of course, the CN 235 (the predecessor of (C/CN 295) itself when it was firstly designed, was mainly for civilian purposes as the main aim for Indonesia at that time is to provide cheaper option of aircraft to connect the main islands with remote islands. But then, the idea of modifying and converting CN 235 into military version was born and CN 235 became one of the most saleable medium lift aircraft. There's nothing wrong with modifying civilian-designed aircraft to be military aircraft as long as the mission that is going to be performed will not be too far from its primary function, after all, either the civilian versions and the military ones have similar task; to carry people and drop supplies. Is it stupid to convert a civilian-use designed Boeing 747 to be a full military specs aircraft like the one that is being used by U.S president? No.

Orange: G222 is the basic model of C 27 J, C 27 J itself is an advanced model of G222. The same thing goes for C/CN 295 which is an advanced and extended version of CN 235 built in early 1980's. Both planes are advanced variants of each earlier model that was built in almost similar time.

Yellow: Explain further.

 

[nufix]

How many will Indonesia will get for the CN295?

The first batch is consisted of one squadron of 16 units. The further acquisition will be added to MEF phase two defense white paper in 2014.

 

[scobydoo]

buset dah.... pake klonengan buat ngejelekin produk indonesia.

 

[nufix]

buset dah.... pake klonengan buat ngejelekin produk indonesia.

haha biarin, yang gituan mah paling juga mabur pas dikasih jawaban sederet gitu.

 

[nufix]

OSI to support Indonesian Navy’s Type 209 submarine programme

30 May 2013 - OSI Maritime Systems (OSI) has been awarded a contract by Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME) to deliver integrating navigation and tactical systems in support of the Indonesian Navy's Type 209 diesel submarine programme.

Under the contract, the company will deliver three integrating navigation and tactical systems, as well as ECPINS-W Sub software to DSME for installation on three Type 209 diesel submarines for the Indonesian Navy.

Specifically designed to meet unique requirements of subsurface navigation, the ECPINS-W Sub software is an International Maritime Organization (IMO) approved electronic chart display and information system (ECDIS) and is compliant with the Nato WECDIS STANAG 4564.

The software will enable the crew to navigate the submarine in the most challenging conditions, both dived and on the surface, while providing enhanced situational awareness and navigational safety.

Powered by a diesel electric propulsion system based on four MTU 12V 396 diesel engines with four alternators and one Siemens 3.7MW motor, the Type 209 submarines feature non-hull-penetrating mast and surface-search radar.

Equipped with a Saab Grintek Avionics electronic support measures system, the submarines in this class are armed with 533mm bow torpedo tubes.

A sonar suite is also installed on the submarine, comprising an Atlas Elektronik CSU 90 hull-mounted passive and active search-and-attack sonar and flank sonar arrays.

Previously, the Indonesian Navy awarded a contract to Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (DSME) to build three type 209 submarines in a move to modernise its capabilities in line with other countries across the Asia-Pacific region.

Under the contract, DSME will construct two submarines in South Korea in partnership with shipbuilder PT PAL and the third submarine will be built at PT PAL's facilities in Surabaya, Indonesia.

OSI to support Indonesian Navy

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

US to step up military ties with Indonesia

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...-news-discussion-thread-25.html#ixzz2V0UPVZoC

May the friendship between two country remain good.

US offers to sell weapons to support RI’s military modernization
Veeramalla Anjaiah, The Jakarta Post, Singapore | World | Sat, June 01 2013, 6:49 PM

The United States will step up its military cooperation with Indonesia, Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel said in Singapore on Friday after meeting his Indonesian counterpart Purnomo Yusgiantoro - PHOTO : REUTERS

In a significant development in the fast growing ties between Washington and Jakarta, the United States said on Friday night that it would enhance military cooperation with Indonesia and support the archipelagic nation’s military modernization through US military sales.

Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro met the new US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel on the sidelines of the Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore on Friday night. It was the first meeting between the two.

"They reaffirmed the importance of deepening ties in support of the US-Indonesia Comprehensive Partnership, an initiative of presidents Barack Obama and Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, calling for closer ties between our two governments and societies,” Pentagon spokesperson George Little said after the bilateral meeting.

However, according to Little, Hagel emphasized the importance of human rights accountability to sustain the momentum in defense ties between both countries.

Hagel invited Purnomo to Washington for further discussions.

US offers to sell weapons to support RI


RI calls for strategic military modernization transparency
Veeramalla Anjaiah, The Jakarta Post, Singapore | World | Sat, June 01 2013, 10:17 PM

The ongoing military modernization programs in many Asian countries have the potential to create mistrust, miscalculations and tensions in the region. To avoid this, there should be strategic
transparency in the region, says a top Indonesian defense official.

“We should be mindful that there are indeed inherent perceptional sensitivities in military build-ups that could create miscalculations,misjudgment and mistrust,” Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said at The Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore on Saturday.

Speaking at the third plenary session along with Australian Defense Minister Stephen Smith and the United Kingdom’s Secretary of State for Defense Philip Hammond, Purnomo said that strategic transparency could and should be performed at many levels.

“ First and foremost, transparency begins at home with an open and democratic system of government. A system where the defense budget is openly debated at the legislative level, where weaponry choices become public discourse and where military procurements are scrutinized by
the media,” Purnomo said.

Bilateral defense and security dialogue, Purnomo continued, could also serve as effective instruments to promote transparency. He commended Australia’s move to consult with its neighbors in formulating its defense policies and strategies.

Echoing a similar view, Smith said that Australia considered military modernization a natural part of any country’s economic development. But there was an urgent need to transparently disclose the
details of military modernization programs.

“Australia will continue to encourage all countries to be open about their defense policies, procurement plans and military planning”.

Australia unveiled its 2013 Defense White Paper on May 3, 2013. Indonesia, according to Purnomo, is currently in the process of preparing its next defense white paper. Indonesia published its last Defense White Paper in 2008.

RI calls for strategic military modernization transparency | The Jakarta Post

 

[Ahmad_Yusuf]

As costly as US weapon systems are and all the political "strings" that come with buying american weapons i hope Indonesia keeps an open mind and buys what's best for the military and not what's best for the americans.

 

[nufix]

Indonesian Navy Tour In Somalia Water, Guarding Indonesian Ships from Pirates; A Rescue for Hijacked MV Sinar Kudus Cargo Ship.

Credit to: tommyfariz@kaskus

An Indonesian LPD, KRI Banjarmasin 592, acting as support and command center for Indonesian navy fleet in Somalia Water.

An Indonesian Navy Frigate KRI AHP 355 while cruising.

Indonesian Navy Fleet in Somalian Water.

Indonesian Navy Frigate

On Board Briefing With Indonesian Navy Officers

Indonesian Navy Naval Crews and Marines Training On Deck

Indonesian Navy Naval Crews and Marines Training On Deck

Indonesian Navy Naval Crews and Marines Posing for Photos

 

[nufix]

Part II, Rescuing Indonesian Cargo Ship MV Sinar Kudus

Indonesian Flagged Cargo Ship MV Sinar Kudus Captured On Camera From An Air Surveillance Aircraft

Indonesian Navy's Marines Approaching MV Sinar Kudus With 2 Sea Raiders groups

Somalian Pirates

Indonesian Navy Marines Surrounding The Ship

Indonesian Navy's Marines Sniper Giving Long Range Fire Support

One of Pirates Boats got Captured By Indonesian Navy's Sea Raiders

Indonesian Navy Frigates KRI AHP 355 and KRI SRI 352 escorting MV Sinar Kudus after was rescued.

Indonesian Navy Marines Sea Raider talking to MV Sinar Kudus crew after the ship was rescued.