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[Indos]

Better yet I have the video of Mahathir saying it

The source codes are only needed if you're a country like Israel who wants to modify their jets and do stuff like integrating their own missiles, etc. If you're not going to and don't even have the capability of modifying the jets like for example the Israelis do then why bother wanting the source codes?

Also regarding the source codes being required to fire the missiles, I don't think its true, Pakistan was able to use AIM-120's against Indian MiG's and Su-30MKI during the 2019 Skirmish, to the point where the Indians had proof of it and they arguably performed better than the R-77's the IAF had at the time, I mean do you really think if the AIM-120's required Washington's permission to be fired, the PAF would easily be allowed to use it against the IAF? Again the source codes aren't for being able to fire the missiles, its for integrating the missiles into the jets (CMIIW).

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...issiles-were-used-by-pakistan-in-aerial-brawl

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-16s-shot-down-in-indian-battle-idUSKCN1RH0IM

In my own analysis, although I admit I dont have any knowledge on this, the source code is important in relation to IFF instrument which is the instrument to identify foe and friend. I suspect we cant program the IFF if we dont have the source code. So we have to stick with the US made IFF program since we use US made IFF in our fighter. This is the bold part that I have been mentioned in my previous post.

I dont have any doubt we can fire missile to Sukhoi or Chinese jet, but possibly there will be a problem in identifying and launching missile to US made fighter belong to Singapore/Malaysia/Australia. As we know, we use US made IFF in our F 16 and it is already a fix package for any one wanting to buy US fighter jet. And of course we need US permission to install our own made IFF (modifying the jet) like the case of Turkey. It will be the problem if US reject it.

 

[NEKONEKO]

I believe the missile can lock to any target that show up in the radar and AGM munition can hit any target.

Maybe misunderstanding between activation code and source code? Why would US give source code to anyone? Maybe you can ask for TOT about the source code, so you can learn and make your own missile or make kw ver or tweak and improve it. and there is other source code for radar, iff, missile, avionics etc its all electronic so it need to be programmed any way so there is source code for it.
If we can get source code of our f16 radar that will be very nice. Or aim9 or amraam anything, dapat ilmu tambahan.
Is he implying... their jet can't be used against specified aircraft?

Spoiler: Hello world

If(target.isInTheLeft())
{
missile.turnLeft();
}
Else If(target.isInTheRight())
{
missile.turnRight();
}
Else If(target.isBellow())
{
missile.turnDown();
}
Else If(target.isAbove())
{
missile.turnUp();
}
Else
{
pushMessage(message.errTargetLostLMAO);
SelfDestruct();
}

 

[The Ronin]

Indonesia upgrades PT-76 light amphibious tank with John Cockerill 90mm Mk III cannon

Indonesian company PT Lumindo Artha Sejati has upgraded the Soviet-made PT-76 light amphibious tank used by the Indonesian Marine Corps. The upgraded PT-76 is motorized with a US-made Detroit Diesel engine and armed with John Cockerill (formerly CMI Defence) Mk III 90mm caliber cannon and new firing control system.

The first prototype of the Soviet-made PT-76 light amphibious tank was completed in 1950. Following trials and further modifications the vehicles were accepted for service with the Russian army in 1951. Production was undertaken at the Volgograd Tractor Factory from 1958 to 1967 and a total of 12,000 vehicles were built for the home and export markets. Total exports amounted to approximately 2,000 vehicles.

The PT-76 continues to be used by naval infantry units of the Russian armed forces. It was exported to other countries, like India, Iraq, Syria, North Korea, and North Vietnam. Overall, some 25 countries used the PT-76.

The hull of the PT-76 is of welded steel providing protection against firing of small arms and artillery shell splinters. The vehicle is divided into three compartments, with the driver at the front, the turret in the center, and the power pack at the rear. The turret is of all-welded steel with the commander, who also acts as the gunner, seated on the left and the loader on the right.

The main armament of the PT-76 consists of a 76.2 mm rifled D-56T gun which has a semi-automatic vertical sliding wedge breech block, a hydraulic buffer, and a hydro-pneumatic recuperator. The gun is 42 calibers long and has an overall length of 3.455 m and a weight of 1,150 kg. The gun has a maximum rate of fire of between 6 and 8 rds/min, a maximum range in the indirect fire role of between 12,000 and 13,290 m and can fire the following types of fixed ammunition: AP-T (BR-350 series), API-T (BZR-350B), HE-FRAG (0-350A), HEAT-FS (BK-354M) and HVAP-T (BR-354P). A 7.62 mm machine gun is mounted coaxially to the right of the main armament and the roof of the turret can be fitted with one 12.7 mm DShKM anti-aircraft machine gun.

The PT-76 is fully amphibious, being propelled in the water at a maximum speed of 9 km/h thanks to two water-jets mounted at the rear of the hull. The only preparation required before entering the water is to erect the trim vane at the front of the hull and switch on the two electric bilge pumps. A manual bilge pump is provided for emergency use.

The Indonesian upgrade of the PT-76 is motorized with a new Detroit Diesel 6V-92T diesel developing 300 hp at 2,100 rpm coupled to the original transmission. The upgrade package also includes a new alternator (24 V, 200 Ah), a new cooling and electrical system and fuel, exhaust, air inlet, hull, and top deck modifications.

The original 76.2 mm gun is replaced by the 90 mm Cockerill Mk III gun that can fire a wide range of ammunition including APFSDS (Armour-Piercing Fin-Stabilized discarding Sabot). To improve the first round hit probability, a new fire-control system has been installed, together with a new day/night sight for the gunner which incorporates a laser range-finder. A new solid-state all-electric gun/turret stabilization and power control system has replaced the original Russian system and a new fire extinguishing system has been installed.

The Soviet-made 7.62mm coaxial machine gun seems to be replaced by a European 7.62 machine gun and a similar weapon can be mounted on the turret roof for air defense purposes.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/wea...k4biD86fFZ9qJSuAlT24kJXQfGyPUCy9XxZz7vc0pnrLw

 

[Raduga]

a comparison from cessnateur

 

[Ruhnama]

Why the marines tend to be different from their brothers in army, like buying weapon from our potential adverasy is it "asal beda" mentality or what?

With gado2 system and most of them are russian/ chinese, i wonder their logistics issue

Some people like it, and support it because they think it is about SELERA MARINIR SUKA2 MARINRI ngapain samaan sama AD

Bhak

gonna post this here, just in case marine corps decide to go russian for their SP air defence

https://twitter.com/x/status/1263102542705090561

https://twitter.com/x/status/1262312187084890114

GNA use made in turk drone? Ok buy spaag korkut then it is amphibious made by fnss,....

Home > News > India > Philippines explores options to buy BrahMos missile from India
Elizabeth Roche

• India is also exploring the possibility of selling the BrahMos to Indonesia
• The Philipines and India have had price negotiation talks for the BrahMos cruise missile jointly developed by India and Russia

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India and the Phillipines are in talks for the purchase of a number of defence platforms from India including the Brahmos missile, India’s ambassador to the Phillipines Jaideep Majumdar has said.

“There are discussions going on a range of weapons systems between India and the Phillipines. Once travel becomes possible, the joint committee that looks at defence logistics will meet discuss these things," Majumdar said on Monday.

The Philippines and India have had price negotiation talks for the BrahMos cruise missile jointly developed by India and Russia, with the aim of concluding a deal in 2020, two people familiar with the matter said separately.

The Phillipines is one among several countries in Southeast Asia, including Thailand, Indonesia and Vietnam that has shown an interest in purchasing the land and sea-based versions of the supersonic cruise missile.

The cost of the system was a key factor in Manila’s decision to equip the Philippines Army’s first Land Based Missile System Battery, which was raised and activated in October, one of the people cited above said.

Though India has offered a $100 million line of credit to the Philippines for defence purchases, Manila is exploring the option of acquiring the BrahMos system with its own funds to be allocated in the next budget.

In recent years, the Philippines has concluded several deals with India for personal protective items or bulletproof gear and armour plating for military vehicles. An Indian firm has also bid for a recent Philippines tender for bulletproof gear.

During Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to the Philippines in 2017, India and the Phillippines had signed an MoU on defence industry and logistics cooperation to provide a framework for strengthening cooperation and coordination in logistics support and services, and in the development, production and procurement of defence hardware.

India is also exploring the possibility of selling the BrahMos to Indonesia, and a team from the Indo-Russian joint venture that makes the system visited a state-run shipyard to assess the fitting of the missile on Indonesian warships.

India has also held talks with Vietnam for the sale of the BrahMos, which was developed by the Indo-Russian joint venture set up in 1998. The Indian Navy inducted the missile on its frontline warships in 2005 and the army began inducting the BrahMos from 2007 after a series of tests.

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...rahmos-missile-from-india-11589823975582.html

Densus 88 antiterror squad arrests 16-year-old in Batam

• Fadli
  The Jakarta Post

Batam / Sat, May 23, 2020 / 03:20 pm
The National Police’s Densus 88 counterterrorism squad pacfiy suspected terrorists in a simulation exercise at the East Java Police headquarters in Surabaya, East Java. (JP/Wahyoe Boediwardhana)


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The National Police's Densus 88 counterterrorism squad arrested a 16-year-old boy in his house in Merapi Subur housing complex in Batam, Riau Islands on Wednesday evening. Recent arrests also occurred in Tasikmalaya, West Java and Kendal in Central Java.

The neighborhood unit (RT) head of the housing complex, Adip Kurniawan, told The Jakarta Post that personnel of the squad and from the Riau Islands Police arrested the boy and he was taken to the Riau Islands Police headquarters.

Adip said the terrorism suspect was the eldest of two siblings and the family had just rented the house in March.


“They’re new here and they’re friendly, but the one arrested is a child,” Adip said.

Riau Islands Police chief Insp. Gen. Aris Budiman confirmed the arrest during his inspection of Idul Fitri holiday security. “So far, the security in Riau Islands and Batam is under control,” he said.

Aris, however, did not divulge more information about the teenager’s arrest.

In 2016, Densus 88 unraveled a terrorist network calling itself Katibah Gonggong Rebus (KGR), led by 31-year-old Gigih Rahmat Dewa in Batam. The police said they once planned to shoot a rocket to Marina Bay in Singapore from Batam.

“Gonggong rebus” is actually the name of a Batam dish of boiled snails.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news...error-squad-arrests-16-year-old-in-batam.html

Teroris jaman dlu (jaman dlu suka post macem2 di line dan ig) suka pkae nama katibah diikuti dgn macam sebutan. Misal trans sumatra juga ada

This is one of the reason we should still be in KFX/IFX program

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Claims American Fighters Are Only Useful for Airshows - Why F-18s Can’t Fight Without Washington’s Permission

In an interview with Qatari news outlet Al Jazeera, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad provided insight into his country’s experience operating American manufactured F-18 Hornet fighter jets and the considerable limitations imposed on operations by Washington. The Royal Malaysian Air Force currently operates three classes of fighter, including the high end heavyweight Russian Su-30MKM as its most modern platform and small numbers of older medium weight F-18 and MiG-29 platforms. Mahathir noted regarding the terms imposed by the U.S. on clients for its fighter aircraft that the source codes for the jets were not provided, meaning: “we cannot program the plane for any attacks against other countries without getting the programming done by Americans. So although the planes are very good, in terms of performance very powerful engines, but we cannot program the plane by ourselves. You have to refer to the United States for putting the program for any raid on foreign countries for example. So our planes were costly. We have them. We can fly them at airshows. But we cannot use them to fight any other country because we don’t get the source code.”

F-18 Medium Fighter

Mahathir further elaborated: “The way they treated Malaysia as a buyer of the F-18, we find that the planes are only good for airshows. But we cannot program it for, say, attacks against other countries or for any other use. That is the experience of Malaysia. But I suspect that other countries also did not get the source codes… the planes are not really a weapon that you can control. The control is with the Americans.” He noted that European states may be provided with source codes, but indicated that few non-Western states would, and that even munitions for the F-18s could not be purchased to update the aircraft without approval from the U.S. government. The interviewer thus concluded that clients for F-16 of F-18 fighters “can only use them against targets designated by the United States, not targets that they themselves would like to hit.”

Su-57 and MiG-35 Next Generation Fighters

Mahathir’s statement has considerable implications given that Malaysia is currently considering purchasing a new generation of fighter jets to replace its F-18, MiG-29 and possibly even the Su-30. Kuala Lumpur has previously indicated an interest in the Russian MiG-35 and Su-57 next generation medium and heavyweight fighters, and Russia has offered to purchase its MiG-29s second hand to help offset the cost of a MiG-35 purchase. The Su-57 is likely to replace the Su-30MKM in future, although given the older platform’s still viable capabilities there is less of an urgent need to make such a purchase. While other countries operating the F-18 have sought to replace them either with the F-18E Super Hornet or the F-35A Lightning II platforms, the Prime Minister’s account of Malaysia’s experience with the Hornet indicates that future purchases of American fighters are unlikely. The F-18 could instead be replaced by more MiG-35 fighters, which are from the same weight range but have a lower operational cost and superior combat performance across the spectrum. Unlike U.S. aircraft, Russian fighters do not have similar restrictions on their use meaning countries can deploy them far more freely without political dependance on Moscow.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...s-can-t-fight-without-washington-s-permission

Still curious from past to this time, how if we use so many american made aircraft and some shit hit fan (political turmoil etc) and we get emabargoed again? What we must do? Crash course buy russian again?

Spoiler: Hello world

Ini java ya? Mau coba di run hehehhe

 

[NEKONEKO]

Maintenance?

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Indonesia upgrades PT-76 light amphibious tank with John Cockerill 90mm Mk III cannon

Indonesian company PT Lumindo Artha Sejati has upgraded the Soviet-made PT-76 light amphibious tank used by the Indonesian Marine Corps. The upgraded PT-76 is motorized with a US-made Detroit Diesel engine and armed with John Cockerill (formerly CMI Defence) Mk III 90mm caliber cannon and new firing control system.

The first prototype of the Soviet-made PT-76 light amphibious tank was completed in 1950. Following trials and further modifications the vehicles were accepted for service with the Russian army in 1951. Production was undertaken at the Volgograd Tractor Factory from 1958 to 1967 and a total of 12,000 vehicles were built for the home and export markets. Total exports amounted to approximately 2,000 vehicles.

The PT-76 continues to be used by naval infantry units of the Russian armed forces. It was exported to other countries, like India, Iraq, Syria, North Korea, and North Vietnam. Overall, some 25 countries used the PT-76.

The hull of the PT-76 is of welded steel providing protection against firing of small arms and artillery shell splinters. The vehicle is divided into three compartments, with the driver at the front, the turret in the center, and the power pack at the rear. The turret is of all-welded steel with the commander, who also acts as the gunner, seated on the left and the loader on the right.

The main armament of the PT-76 consists of a 76.2 mm rifled D-56T gun which has a semi-automatic vertical sliding wedge breech block, a hydraulic buffer, and a hydro-pneumatic recuperator. The gun is 42 calibers long and has an overall length of 3.455 m and a weight of 1,150 kg. The gun has a maximum rate of fire of between 6 and 8 rds/min, a maximum range in the indirect fire role of between 12,000 and 13,290 m and can fire the following types of fixed ammunition: AP-T (BR-350 series), API-T (BZR-350B), HE-FRAG (0-350A), HEAT-FS (BK-354M) and HVAP-T (BR-354P). A 7.62 mm machine gun is mounted coaxially to the right of the main armament and the roof of the turret can be fitted with one 12.7 mm DShKM anti-aircraft machine gun.

The PT-76 is fully amphibious, being propelled in the water at a maximum speed of 9 km/h thanks to two water-jets mounted at the rear of the hull. The only preparation required before entering the water is to erect the trim vane at the front of the hull and switch on the two electric bilge pumps. A manual bilge pump is provided for emergency use.

The Indonesian upgrade of the PT-76 is motorized with a new Detroit Diesel 6V-92T diesel developing 300 hp at 2,100 rpm coupled to the original transmission. The upgrade package also includes a new alternator (24 V, 200 Ah), a new cooling and electrical system and fuel, exhaust, air inlet, hull, and top deck modifications.

The original 76.2 mm gun is replaced by the 90 mm Cockerill Mk III gun that can fire a wide range of ammunition including APFSDS (Armour-Piercing Fin-Stabilized discarding Sabot). To improve the first round hit probability, a new fire-control system has been installed, together with a new day/night sight for the gunner which incorporates a laser range-finder. A new solid-state all-electric gun/turret stabilization and power control system has replaced the original Russian system and a new fire extinguishing system has been installed.

The Soviet-made 7.62mm coaxial machine gun seems to be replaced by a European 7.62 machine gun and a similar weapon can be mounted on the turret roof for air defense purposes.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/wea...k4biD86fFZ9qJSuAlT24kJXQfGyPUCy9XxZz7vc0pnrLw

How many unit that will be upgraded? Kirain bakal dikandangin permanen pelan-pelan, ternyata masih diupgrade juga.

90mm, I see so that's why we want the TOT, its for badak, pt76, tankboat(?).

 

[Nike]

modern missiles got their own semi active homing radar to guide the trajectory of the said missiles. The input is being done by the avionic system on board of the aircraft itself. There is no need for the user to getting the source code to launch their missiles, source code it is being used to modify the on board system (especially for the software codes, and some to integrate the hardware system into the whole architecture units). For F-35, why US withholding their own source code, you need to know the mission system software of F35 is one of the most complex integrated mission system ever put on an aircraft, there is hundred billion US dollar cost running on this system, million work hours and the system is being integrated into the whole architecture of US and allies battle management system there is a lot of on the stake.

 

[Jatosint]

Indonesia upgrades PT-76 light amphibious tank with John Cockerill 90mm Mk III cannon

Indonesian company PT Lumindo Artha Sejati has upgraded the Soviet-made PT-76 light amphibious tank used by the Indonesian Marine Corps. The upgraded PT-76 is motorized with a US-made Detroit Diesel engine and armed with John Cockerill (formerly CMI Defence) Mk III 90mm caliber cannon and new firing control system.

The first prototype of the Soviet-made PT-76 light amphibious tank was completed in 1950. Following trials and further modifications the vehicles were accepted for service with the Russian army in 1951. Production was undertaken at the Volgograd Tractor Factory from 1958 to 1967 and a total of 12,000 vehicles were built for the home and export markets. Total exports amounted to approximately 2,000 vehicles.

The PT-76 continues to be used by naval infantry units of the Russian armed forces. It was exported to other countries, like India, Iraq, Syria, North Korea, and North Vietnam. Overall, some 25 countries used the PT-76.

The hull of the PT-76 is of welded steel providing protection against firing of small arms and artillery shell splinters. The vehicle is divided into three compartments, with the driver at the front, the turret in the center, and the power pack at the rear. The turret is of all-welded steel with the commander, who also acts as the gunner, seated on the left and the loader on the right.

The main armament of the PT-76 consists of a 76.2 mm rifled D-56T gun which has a semi-automatic vertical sliding wedge breech block, a hydraulic buffer, and a hydro-pneumatic recuperator. The gun is 42 calibers long and has an overall length of 3.455 m and a weight of 1,150 kg. The gun has a maximum rate of fire of between 6 and 8 rds/min, a maximum range in the indirect fire role of between 12,000 and 13,290 m and can fire the following types of fixed ammunition: AP-T (BR-350 series), API-T (BZR-350B), HE-FRAG (0-350A), HEAT-FS (BK-354M) and HVAP-T (BR-354P). A 7.62 mm machine gun is mounted coaxially to the right of the main armament and the roof of the turret can be fitted with one 12.7 mm DShKM anti-aircraft machine gun.

The PT-76 is fully amphibious, being propelled in the water at a maximum speed of 9 km/h thanks to two water-jets mounted at the rear of the hull. The only preparation required before entering the water is to erect the trim vane at the front of the hull and switch on the two electric bilge pumps. A manual bilge pump is provided for emergency use.

The Indonesian upgrade of the PT-76 is motorized with a new Detroit Diesel 6V-92T diesel developing 300 hp at 2,100 rpm coupled to the original transmission. The upgrade package also includes a new alternator (24 V, 200 Ah), a new cooling and electrical system and fuel, exhaust, air inlet, hull, and top deck modifications.

The original 76.2 mm gun is replaced by the 90 mm Cockerill Mk III gun that can fire a wide range of ammunition including APFSDS (Armour-Piercing Fin-Stabilized discarding Sabot). To improve the first round hit probability, a new fire-control system has been installed, together with a new day/night sight for the gunner which incorporates a laser range-finder. A new solid-state all-electric gun/turret stabilization and power control system has replaced the original Russian system and a new fire extinguishing system has been installed.

The Soviet-made 7.62mm coaxial machine gun seems to be replaced by a European 7.62 machine gun and a similar weapon can be mounted on the turret roof for air defense purposes.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/wea...k4biD86fFZ9qJSuAlT24kJXQfGyPUCy9XxZz7vc0pnrLw

How many unit that will be upgraded? Kirain bakal dikandangin permanen pelan-pelan, ternyata masih diupgrade juga.

90mm, I see so that's why we want the TOT, its for badak, pt76, tankboat(?).

A new upgrade batch? Or is it late news and the upgrade already completed in 2019?

https://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2020/05/lumindo-berhasil-rekondisi-beberapa.html

Also, is it the same or newer version of the Cockerill Mk III 90mm gun that our PT-76s have previously upgraded with?

 

[deadlast]

A new upgrade batch? Or is it late news and the upgrade already completed in 2019?

https://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2020/05/lumindo-berhasil-rekondisi-beberapa.html

Also, is it the same or newer version of the Cockerill Mk III 90mm gun that our PT-76s have previously upgraded with?

Seems like just regular overhaul works, that armyrecognition article only describe that Marinir still operating PT-76 with some upgrade. Also the 90mm Cockerill Mk III is an old gun, as far as I know the current version of 90mm Cockerill that still in production is the Mk.8 version.

 

[Kansel]

M3 Amphibious ponton training.

 

[NEKONEKO]

Selamat hari raya idul fitri gaes bagi yang merayakan. Mohon maaf lahir batin kepada member-member lain.

Selamat menyembelih ketupat.

 

[initial_d]

Meski wajah tak mampu berjumpa, tangan tak bisa saling menjabat, semoga coretan kata ini mampu menjadi jembatan di hari penuh kemenangan. Taqabbalallahu minna wa minkum.

 

[Indos]

 

[mandala]

Happy Eid Mubarak 1441 H.

 

[Fl0gger]

happy ied mubarrok....barakallahu fiikum