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[Ruhnama]

SS 1 v5 ( close quarter combat variant) can be used to kill adult crocodile in which had rather thick skin, the story quite disturbing actually. Indonesia need to have wild life protection forces to keep watch against large predator (in our cases like tiger, saltwater crocs and large phyton) in near public communities like what Australian had in their bilabong communities

Maluku police kill crocodile that snatched, ate 6-year-old
10th Apr 2020 20:21

Ambon, Maluku (ANTARA) - The Maluku police in Air Buaya Subdistrict, Buru District, on Thursday shot a saltwater crocodile which had snatched and eaten a 6-year-old boy swimming near the beach in Waimangit Village a day earlier.

The Maluku marine police shot the four-meter-long crocodile using an SS1 V5 rifle on Thursday during a search mission, said Maluku police spokesperson Sen.Coms. Muhammad Roem Ohoirat on Friday in Ambon.

The crocodile was spotted by several residents of Waimangit Village near a river around 5.41 p.m. local time on Thursday. The village head then asked the police to execute the wild animal as the villagers suspected it had eaten a boy, identified as Johari Hentihu, the previous day.

The crocodile is believed to have snatched the boy when he went swimming near the village's beach around 11 a.m. local time on Wednesday.

Hentihu had reportedly gone swimming with his friends Murni Sarea, Cinta Vanolong, and Lala Umasugi. After they finished swimming, Hentihu’s friends left him alone in the water. When they returned several minutes later, Hentihu was nowhere to be seen. They reported him missing, Ohoirat stated.

Hentihu's family and local villagers searched for him, but failed to find him. So they reported the matter to the local police and SAR agency.

The search operation was conducted by five personnel of Maluku police's marine unit, led by Adjunct First Inspector Otis Damaryanan, along with several members of the National Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) and local villagers.

The police managed to find and slay the crocodile. The remains of the deceased boy were fished out of the crocodile's stomach and buried, the police spokesperson informed.

Related news: Crocodile enters residential area in Kalimantan's East Kotawaringin

Crocodile attacks have been repeatedly reported from different parts of Indonesia.

In February, 2019, a fisherman named Julhaidir, 41, was attacked by a big crocodile in the Seranggas River, East Kotawaringin District, Central Kalimantan Province. He lost one of his arms in the attack.

According to a local resident, identified as Yansyah, the incident occurred late afternoon when the victim was taking a bath in the Seranggas River, a tributary of the Mentaya River, in the Lempuyang Village area. (INE)

Related news: Five saltwater crocodiles trapped in Riau`s Singingi District

Related news: Crocodiles roam about at beaches, disrupt Kupang`s tourism

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Actually we have polhut they armed with 9 mm smg but some unit armed with garand or SMLE. I think polhut armed and trained with SMLE amd Garand is enough to shoot crocs and any other dangerous animal. 30.06 and .303 have good stopping power to take down big game.

556 can pierce crocs skin???

Lol
From the news the sound is only heard in area around south Jakarta, Bekasi and kab. Bogor, if its sonic boom why people doesn't hear the jet engine sound? If its krakatoa why people in Lampung doesn't hear any thing?
Jakarta is too far away from Krakatoa so I think small eruption won't be heard from there, but if krakatoa having a blast like in the past (1883) then the sound can be heard across Indonesia.

Accident? The ship is almost completed.

Pengaruh PSSB so there are ni any sound, sound more clearer to hear. Klo sepi kan bisa denger suara2 gitu

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How using tanker convertrled to hospital ship? But maybe little difficult and slow speed.

 

[NEKONEKO]

Though i am always pondered why using LPD design as hospital ships need more spaces for beds and other supporting facilities like theater operating room, radiology units and so on, meanwhile LPD design had dedicated berthing and docking room space for Amphibious assault roles.

Yup but it has its own perks, and I kinda like it so its fine I guess.

How using tanker convertrled to hospital ship? But maybe little difficult and slow speed.

Speed is not a problem, its not like it need to chase or run against other ship.
US also convert tanker ship to hospital ship.

 

[Ruhnama]

Yup but it has its own perks, and I kinda like it so its fine I guess.

Speed is not a problem, its not like it need to chase or run against other ship.
US also convert tanker ship to hospital ship.

What if need fast response to disaster zone?

 

[Raduga]

Yup but it has its own perks, and I kinda like it so its fine I guess.

Speed is not a problem, its not like it need to chase or run against other ship.
US also convert tanker ship to hospital ship.

nah actually , LPD based hospital ship is already good enough for HADR , well deck are needed especially to carry heavy equipment such as excavator , bulldozer to help in disaster zone .

 

[NEKONEKO]

nah actually , LPD based hospital ship is already good enough for HADR , well deck are needed especially to carry heavy equipment such as excavator , bulldozer to help in disaster zone .

The LCU and chooper will be useful to access underdeveloped islands, and the ship can carry vehicles and heavy equipment, this ability is somewhat okay to justify the decreased room available in the ship for medical purpose.
This ship can operates alone and do many things, treats patients, carry logistics, carry vehicle and mini excavator to clear rubles, while standard hospital ship can only treats patients so its a very good asset for HADR ops.
TNI can just carry necessary logistics and equipment to set up field hospital, when there's a lot of people that need to be treated.

 

[Raduga]

Radar and CMS upgrade are ongoing ?

 

[Nike]

Radar and CMS upgrade are ongoing ?
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Dont know if the vendor in Netherland and France got affected by Covid 19 pandemic ?as i expected delay in working

 

[trishna_amṛta]

Actually we have polhut they armed with 9 mm smg but some unit armed with garand or SMLE. I think polhut armed and trained with SMLE amd Garand is enough to shoot crocs and any other dangerous animal. 30.06 and .303 have good stopping power to take down big game.

I wont bring anything smaller than .308 Win for serious game from Indonesia jungle. Both .30-06 SW and .303 Brit are sufficient for vermin size boar or dear. But not anything bigger. Keep in mind most 4 legged have natural body armour especially native inhabitant of tropical jungle

556 can pierce crocs skin???

LOL I know right. There is no way any 5.56mm could pierce crocodile armour. Next someone will make ridicolous claim about bullet placement, as if such thing even practical when dealing with large crocodile.

How using tanker convertrled to hospital ship? But maybe little difficult and slow speed.

Different construction (bulkhead, piping, air duct, wiring, etc) thus expensive

 

[Raduga]

I wont bring anything smaller than .308 Win for serious game from Indonesia jungle. Both .30-06 SW and .303 Brit are sufficient for vermin size boar or dear. But not anything bigger. Keep in mind most 4 legged have natural body armour especially native inhabitant of tropical jungle



LOL I know right. There is no way any 5.56mm could pierce crocodile armour. Next someone will make ridicolous claim about bullet placement, as if such thing even practical when dealing with large crocodile.



Different construction (bulkhead, piping, air duct, wiring, etc) thus expensive

not even the black tipped MU5-TJ ?

 

[Chestnut]

LOL I know right. There is no way any 5.56mm could pierce crocodile armour. Next someone will make ridicolous claim about bullet placement, as if such thing even practical when dealing with large crocodile.

5.56 CAN penetrate a croc. Alot of alligator/crocodile hunters use .22LR to hunt them so as to not damage the skin, and most US Fish & Wildlife Conservation departments use 55Gr .223/5.56 for gator pest control all the time.

The 5.56 is weak is a stupid meme.

 

[Kansel]

America Is Winning The Arms Sales War With Russia And China For Indonesia

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April 12, 2020 Topic: Politics Region: Asia Blog Brand: The Buzz Tags: F-35Su-35MilitaryTechnologyWorldStealth
Jakarta could be the next nation to acquire the F-35.

by Caleb Larson

Key point: Indonesia’s decision to back out of two deals with Russia and China—both strategic adversaries of the United States—represent a triumph for the Trump administration


Indonesia recently backed out of two separate arms deals with both China and Russia, bowing to pressure from the Trump administration.

High-tech Barter Goods

In August of 2017, Indonesia announced a deal with the Russian Federation in which Indonesia would buy eleven advanced Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets for approximately $1.1 billion worth of goods. The unusual barter-system deal stipulated that Russia would buy items such as palm oil, rubber, furniture, tea and coffee, as well as spices.

Not long ago, the future of the deal, signed by former Indonesian Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu in 2018, appeared unclear, seemingly stuck in a sort of legal limbo

The Trump administration apparently informed Jakarta that if the purchases went forward, Indonesia would be penalized under the CAATSA, or Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act.
The odd deal with Russia could have given the Russian state a small, but badly needed economic boost at a time when oil prices—a mainstay of the Russian oil-exporting economy—have suffered a hit due to a flood of cheap Saudi oil on the world market.

Additionally, Jakarta also backed out of a $200 billion deal with China to buy an unspecified number of naval patrol vessels.

Top Gun(s)

Washington reportedly offered the latest and most advanced variant of the American F-16 fighter family, the F-16 Viper, in lieu of the Su-35s. Jakarta instead is attempting to procure the more advanced—and more expensive—F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

In private, some Indonesian government officials have outlined why the CAATSA was so effective—it would apply a number of different sanctions on both organizations and individuals who do business with Russian entities connected to either Russian defense or intelligence agencies.

These sections could be as simple as hampering the ability of individuals to travel, through visa restrictions, or as damaging as banning some financial transactions, or penalties against property and assets, which could have been quite damaging, especially in a time of increasing economic uncertainty due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Sticks and Carrots

When dealing with its Chinese neighbor, a Russian vendor, and American priorities, Jakarta is balancing several interests against its own.

Indonesia’s decision to back out of two deals with Russia and China—both strategic adversaries of the United States—represent a triumph for the Trump administration, which has struggled recently in preventing both friends and allies from buying Russian and Chinese hardware.

Recently, the United Kingdom rejected an American push to exclude the Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei from any part of its 5G network, which is still in its infancy, opting instead to limit Huawei technology only in non-critical parts of the network.

Indonesian Communications Minister Johnny G. Plate has said the country would not exclude Huawei from its 5G networks, although Australia, a member of the Five Eyes intelligence sharing network, has said the decision could impact intelligence sharing between the two countries.

Caleb Larson is a Defense Writer with The National Interest. He holds a Master of Public Policy and covers U.S. and Russian security, European defense issues, and German politics and culture. This article first appeared last month.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...s-sales-war-russia-and-china-indonesia-142632

 

[NEKONEKO]

Americans only need a bang stick to kill a gator.

 

[Kansel]

Americans only need a bang stick to kill a gator.

Ah yes, Florida man and alligator what an iconic duo

 

[Jatosint]

Seriously, how the f*ck can we prevent this TNI-Polri clash from happening again?

3 Polisi Tewas dalam Bentrokan Polri dan TNI di Mamra Papua
CNN Indonesia | Minggu, 12/04/2020 13:13 WIB

Jakarta, CNN Indonesia -- Tiga polisi tewas dalam bentrokan antara anggota Polri dan TNI di Kasonaweja, Kabupaten Mamberamo Raya (Mamra), Papua, pada Minggu (12/4). Panglima Kodam XVII/Cenderawasih Mayjen TNI Herman Asaribab mengonfirmasi kejadian tersebut.

"Sama seperti yang disampaikan Kapolda. Tim investigasi gabungan hari ini sudah berangkat dengan heli ke Kasonaweja. Nanti detail setelah info dari tim investigasi," kata Herman kepada CNNIndonesia.com melalui pesan singkat.

Ketiga anggota Polres Mamberamo Raya yang meninggal akibat luka tembak yaitu Briptu Marcelino Rumaikewi, Bripda Yosias Dibangga dan Briptu Alexander Ndun.

Sedang yang mengalami luka tembak yakni Bripka Alva Titaley dan Brigpol Robert Marien. Belum diketahui pasti penyebab bentrokan antara anggota Polri dan TNI.

Herman mengatakan bentrokan bermula dari kesalahpahaman antara kedua pihak. Namun ia tidak menjelaskan duduk perkara insiden tersebut.

Saat ini, Kapolda Papua dan Pangdam XVII Cenderawasih sudah membentuk tim gabungan untuk menyelidiki insiden kesalahpahaman yang terjadi di Kasonaweja, Kabupaten Mamberamo Raya.

Bentrokan akibat kesalahpahaman antara anggota Polres Mamberamo Raya dengan anggota Yonif 755/Kostrad hingga kini masih diselidiki penyebabnya.

Kapolda Papua Irjen Pol Paulus Waterpauw mengatakan bentrokan terjadi karena kesalahpahaman yang menurut Paulus sudah diselesaikan sejak Sabtu (11/4) malam sekitar pukul 23.00 WIT.

"Memang bentul ada pertikaian yang berawal dari kesalahpahaman hingga menyebabkan anggota Polres Mamberamo Raya meninggal," ujar Paulus dikutip Antara.

Paulus mengatakan insiden tepatnya terjadi pada Minggu dini hari. Kini seluruh anggota dan keluarga Polri diminta tidak keluar dari wilayah mako.

"Dari laporan yang diterima terungkap bahwa anggota yang meninggal itu bersama empat rekannya pada Minggu dini hari tadi menyeberang ke Kasonaweja dan berupaya menyerang," jelasnya.

Kapolda dan Pangdam XVII Cenderawasih dijadwalkan Senin (13/4) ke Mamberamo Raya. Namun hari ini Danrem 172, Direktur Intelkam dan beberapa pejabat berangkat lebih dahulu ke Mamberamo Raya.

 

[Chestnut]

Seriously, how the f*ck can we prevent this TNI-Polri clash from happening again?

3 Polisi Tewas dalam Bentrokan Polri dan TNI di Mamra Papua
CNN Indonesia | Minggu, 12/04/2020 13:13 WIB

Jakarta, CNN Indonesia -- Tiga polisi tewas dalam bentrokan antara anggota Polri dan TNI di Kasonaweja, Kabupaten Mamberamo Raya (Mamra), Papua, pada Minggu (12/4). Panglima Kodam XVII/Cenderawasih Mayjen TNI Herman Asaribab mengonfirmasi kejadian tersebut.

"Sama seperti yang disampaikan Kapolda. Tim investigasi gabungan hari ini sudah berangkat dengan heli ke Kasonaweja. Nanti detail setelah info dari tim investigasi," kata Herman kepada CNNIndonesia.com melalui pesan singkat.

Ketiga anggota Polres Mamberamo Raya yang meninggal akibat luka tembak yaitu Briptu Marcelino Rumaikewi, Bripda Yosias Dibangga dan Briptu Alexander Ndun.

Sedang yang mengalami luka tembak yakni Bripka Alva Titaley dan Brigpol Robert Marien. Belum diketahui pasti penyebab bentrokan antara anggota Polri dan TNI.

Herman mengatakan bentrokan bermula dari kesalahpahaman antara kedua pihak. Namun ia tidak menjelaskan duduk perkara insiden tersebut.

Saat ini, Kapolda Papua dan Pangdam XVII Cenderawasih sudah membentuk tim gabungan untuk menyelidiki insiden kesalahpahaman yang terjadi di Kasonaweja, Kabupaten Mamberamo Raya.

Bentrokan akibat kesalahpahaman antara anggota Polres Mamberamo Raya dengan anggota Yonif 755/Kostrad hingga kini masih diselidiki penyebabnya.

Kapolda Papua Irjen Pol Paulus Waterpauw mengatakan bentrokan terjadi karena kesalahpahaman yang menurut Paulus sudah diselesaikan sejak Sabtu (11/4) malam sekitar pukul 23.00 WIT.

"Memang bentul ada pertikaian yang berawal dari kesalahpahaman hingga menyebabkan anggota Polres Mamberamo Raya meninggal," ujar Paulus dikutip Antara.

Paulus mengatakan insiden tepatnya terjadi pada Minggu dini hari. Kini seluruh anggota dan keluarga Polri diminta tidak keluar dari wilayah mako.

"Dari laporan yang diterima terungkap bahwa anggota yang meninggal itu bersama empat rekannya pada Minggu dini hari tadi menyeberang ke Kasonaweja dan berupaya menyerang," jelasnya.

Kapolda dan Pangdam XVII Cenderawasih dijadwalkan Senin (13/4) ke Mamberamo Raya. Namun hari ini Danrem 172, Direktur Intelkam dan beberapa pejabat berangkat lebih dahulu ke Mamberamo Raya.

The problem is there's no distinct separation of powers and capabilities between them, and their area of responsibility often overlaps. Those two combined with historic tensions, Indonesian egotism, and having two separate chains of command is often enough spark to blow up the powder keg. It's not uncommon to hear Police subverting military operations in an area simply out of pure spite and vice versa.

You wan't it to stop? Then you have to make it clear whether some things are either a Police responsibility or an Military responsibility. Furthermore, there needs to be a combined chain of command when operating in these areas, less both parties are just going to act as respective gangs and end up in mini gang wars.