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[Raduga]

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Something interesting from Singapore

sad to see the fact , one of the country that have width span more than even the continental US and having a large coastal line and sea , does not have any integrated Air Superiority and Maritime Supremacy capability .

 

[GraveDigger388]

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Something interesting from Singapore

They have a point. Multiple points, actually.

 

[umigami]

Bloomberg's article
Trump Threat Spurred Indonesia to Drop Russia, China Arms Deals

Just take decision already!!

 

[Being-Art]

Bloomberg's article
Trump Threat Spurred Indonesia to Drop Russia, China Arms Deals

Just take decision already!!

No Problem for me, we can avoid the domino effect (mirrored from the Purchase of S-400 by Turkey), and if the United States approves the purchase of F-35, Project Chakra can be realized

 

[Raduga]

Bloomberg's article
Trump Threat Spurred Indonesia to Drop Russia, China Arms Deals

Just take decision already!!

200$ million naval patrol vessels from china ..... wtf is that ? Haijing 3901 ?? , they are not wrong about that right ?? seems likely they also put Malaysia LMS project as ours instead .

 

[Chestnut]

Bloomberg's article
Trump Threat Spurred Indonesia to Drop Russia, China Arms Deals

Just take decision already!!

SOMEBODY PICK UP THE PHONE BECAUSE I CALLED IT!

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Something interesting from Singapore

This is why I have always supported the idea of 1 common airframe + support aircraft and tri-service datalinking. The idea that our current armed forces is a big deterrent is asinine. Keep in mind this is just Singapore, the Chinese have an even larger scope of capabilities.

Jokes aside however when it come to arms deals, the fact that we dropped one arms deal usually means that the US gave us a very good counteroffer. Be prepared for the next couple of months guys, I think we're going to see a bunch of new things being announce courtesy of Raytheon, General Dynamics, Boeing, and good ole' daddy Lockheed Martin.

 

[Nike]

SOMEBODY PICK UP THE PHONE BECAUSE I CALLED IT!


This is why I have always supported the idea of 1 common airframe + support aircraft and tri-service datalinking. The idea that our current armed forces is a big deterrent is asinine. Keep in mind this is just Singapore, the Chinese have an even larger scope of capabilities.

Jokes aside however when it come to arms deals, the fact that we dropped one arms deal usually means that the US gave us a very good counteroffer. Be prepared for the next couple of months guys, I think we're going to see a bunch of new things being announce courtesy of Raytheon, General Dynamics, Boeing, and good ole' daddy Lockheed Martin.

Old friends from Italy surely will came along, well waiting until Corona outbreak got much calmer. Old Kornas project will be revived

 

[umigami]

Old friends from Italy surely will came along, well waiting until Corona outbreak got much calmer. Old Kornas project will be revived

You're talking about recent alman helvas Twitter right?
Will they gonna assign PAL again or another?
I think we need to give other ship building SOE a change, not just PAL.

 

[san.geuk]

Better go another local company to build cornas, PAL should focus in bigger ships and heavy figate program,
If su35 got cancelled, Will Rafale chance became smoother or their is another aircraft nikung in next corner?

 

[Raduga]

Old friends from Italy surely will came along, well waiting until Corona outbreak got much calmer. Old Kornas project will be revived

The commandanti one ??? well if fincantieri somewhat enter the kornas project again , atleast sought this newer one .

Fincantieri launches first Doha-class corvette for Qatar
Kate Tringham, London - Jane's Navy International
28 February 2020
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Fincantieri launched the first Doha-class corvette for the Qatari Emiri Naval Forces (QENF) at its yard in Muggiano, Italy, on 27 February 2020.

Al Zubarah is the first of four corvettes being built by the Italian shipbuilder for Qatar under a contract awarded in 2016 that also includes the design and supply of a landing platform dock and two offshore patrol vessels. The keel for Al Zubarah was laid in November 2018, and the ship is expected to be delivered by 2021. The ship is a derivative of the Italian Comandante class, and has an overall length of 107 m and a displacement of about 3,000 tonnes.

Better go another local company to build cornas, PAL should focus in bigger ships and heavy figate program,
If su35 got cancelled, Will Rafale chance became smoother or their is another aircraft nikung in next corner?

Yes something like DRU or PT.Batamec are more than enough to build corvette ship.

 

[san.geuk]

Bigger than our REM class frigate, hope that's our cornas baseline come true

 

[Cromwell]

To make it worse, we don't even have any AEWC platform yet like in the chart, nor even old Hawk MR-SAM also Rapier AFAIK already retired from Army service.

 

[Nike]

To make it worse, we don't even have any AEWC platform yet like in the chart, nor even old Hawk MR-SAM also Rapier AFAIK already retired from Army service.

We got TD2000B and Chiron lol

 

[Chestnut]

Better go another local company to build cornas, PAL should focus in bigger ships and heavy figate program,
If su35 got cancelled, Will Rafale chance became smoother or their is another aircraft nikung in next corner?

Expect US made fighters over anything else.

Old friends from Italy surely will came along, well waiting until Corona outbreak got much calmer. Old Kornas project will be revived

I am honestly interested whether or not shipyards like Bath Ironworks or Newport News Shipbuilding would join the fray.

Having more competitors in our shipbuilding programs would honestly lower costs whilst increasing tot contracts.

I'd rather we start going into the habit of local shipyard/defense companies teaming up with foreign companies such as PAL and DAMEN/Odense teaming up against Tesco and DCNS/Lockheed Martin. Competition is good for business and the economy. It keeps costs down whilst keeping quality up.

We got TD2000B and Chiron lol

I'd imagine they'd be phased out soon. We are honestly better off keeping a mix of Mistrals + Oerlikon Milleniums + NASAMS + Aster 30's/MEADS datalinked together with Air Force GCI OTH radars and AWACS/ELINT planes then the hodgepodge mix of SHORADS we have now.

 

[gondes]

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