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Sure, maybe, couldn't hurt, and I didn't say don't need, I said couldn't handle one. We need more pilots for helicopters, more marines, more officers and NCOs and an academy for them(maybe not a separate one, but they need a place to be able to learn and pass on the knowledge, the navy is still in the process of constructing a naval aviation academy for carrier operations, so maybe this could be included, but it would be years if not a decade before the first graduate rolls out.
Not to mention we need ports, maintenance crew, doctrine, and much much more.
Did I also mention helicopter shortage? Z-20(blackhawk+) is somewhere in the jungle, 20, 30 ton helicopters all need engines, and all are on the drawing board. Then there are talk of a joint program with the Russians on a vertical take off fighter, but may just be hot air.
We do have versions of those helicopter now, but we need 21st century ones.
No, we are too behind for a LHD, even if we did have it we can't use it.
BTW, the easiest part is constructing it, that is very simple.
Experience takes time. 2050 is not a random date we picked.
That's an LPD, Landing Platform Dock, ours is about twice the size of yours. Ours can transport about a battalion, yours maybe a company. It should be able to handle 2-3 helicopters.
Indonesia needs much work before the navy can be potent.
sure, but it's difficult, again, goes back to the officer core, while Americans set the standards for AEGIS ships, we are catching up, the biggest problem is our officers may not be ready for such a ship and it would take sometime before we can use it effectively.
One of the major problems for the Chinese army is the toys are more and more there now, but the doctrines, strategies have not caught up. The problem of using gun like a stick is common place.
it's more than two, it's a lot more, though like any big gathering of people, it's really the minority that's taking part, I'm not sure what the other nations are doing, if it's arms race, then they are doing it wrong.
Indonesia Raya!
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forums are for discussions, what does it matter what. Especially since this is still on topic.
If Indonesia wants to do the leapfrog as well, you are going to have to address the issue of offciers too, though America isn't embargoing you, so maybe you can sent people to study.
The only good one, bang for buck is the type 56 corvette that can be customized like a Porsche.[/quote]
We have sent a lot of army officers and soldier to go study and doing research field in China, Russia, US of A, Germany and South Korea or even Israel (through clandestine operation). We have build and opening National Defense University, Armed Forces Research Center, revamped and reform our military training and education curriculum and trying to re balancing and reforming our structure forces and strengthen the roles of Non-Commission Officers and build a much more capable and mobile forces. The process is still in progress, and you can see how much our armed forces oriented themselves after a long history of Indonesian Armed forces to be formed only to fight guerrilla forces
For the Corvette, don't worry we have bought a license to build 20 SIGMA class light frigate from Netherland and right now our Shipyard in progress to build another 2 SIGMA class PKR
Good, first, we must fill the short range AA. Later we should acquire the longer version.
I like 056 OPV. It is a small, cheap but can be considered as heavy weight with her weaponry pack. I dunno about the others though. Indonesia has made C705 as their standard AShM for their Missile Boat 40 and 60 I guess. So another China - Indonesia military cooperation is not impossible. The problem is, that we have already have Sigma. I dunno what can 056 OPV add to the firepower department when we have Sigma as our Corvette department. Maybe the cost effective? Like Sigma is expensive. It is a good ship, but expensive. Maybe a mix of Sigma and 056 OPV can give more punch to Indonesian Navy? The elite can get Sigma, while the regular get 056 OPV? (since 056 OPV will definitely cheaper than Sigma) What do you think guys? Mado? Nihonjin, Genesis, Gennaro?
Why I like 056 OPV? That's because of her Chinese RAM (FL-3000n?)
SIGMA and type 56 fill the same roles, but is not like i am against the idea but for small craft such as 80's meter warship i thought Indonesian Shipyard can build themselves or just buy the license if China can sell them like the Netherland did