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He deserves Oscar award for his political stunts during the direct election polemic in the house of representativesthe old Soldiers, true statesman of Indonesia
He deserves Oscar award for his political stunts during the direct election polemic in the house of representatives
I thank him for the commitment in building and developing our defense system but in internal politic, a True Coward and Corrupt.
He deserves Oscar award for his political stunts during the direct election polemic in the house of representatives
I thank him for the commitment in building and developing our defense system but in internal politic, a True Coward and Corrupt.
im just replying madoka post.I agree with you, but I think let us put this aside right now. This is our internal matter. Our own country matter. So it is not wise to bring it to an international forum like this.
.. and what happen to the man who put his close relation to jail?corrupt? are you sure? he was brave enough to let KPK to eradicate and clean his party from any corruption cases, even his close relation is doesn't get any spare from the law enforcement.
He blew it at the last minutes, swallowing his own words and let his party to leave the fight for democratic election while he know his party can change the results of the voting.In politics? if you are not naive enough you should know he is the one who laying the true form of Democracy in Indonesia
"Without any fear from persecution" Helloooo what can make Jokowi, Risma, Dahlan be persecuted??not only he can set a precedence to let a young and more vigor Politician like Jokowi, Risma, Dahlan, and other thriving and rising without any fear from persecution and political barrier
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I doubt you have even 1 carrier, you might have 3 assault ships, which we have 6, right now, you might have some F-35s, but we also have fifth gen,Beautiful cooperative platform !
By then, we will have 4 Light Carriers, and 3 Amphibious Assault Ships, with 43 F-35As serving in the JASDF, and another 40 F-35Bs serving in the JMSDF and associated Light Carriers. Not to even include our already substantial Surface Capital Ships. I'm not even including our Submarine Fleet incremental changes by 2025.
I doubt you have even 1 carrier, you might have 3 assault ships, which we have 6, right now, you might have some F-35s, but we also have fifth gen,
You can do what you want, but Japan's size limits it's budget.
All that I listed isn't what I think will happen, it's what people conservatively have confirmed. See, to see the Chinese military tea leafs, Forums are somehow the best way, crazy I know.
I doubt you have even 1 carrier, you might have 3 assault ships, which we have 6, right now, you might have some F-35s, but we also have fifth gen,
You're right, our defense budget is very modest, at 0.9% of the GDP, and we spend about $60 Billion per year on national defense. But that does not include our recent defense plan that alots over $240 Billion for military equipment procurement.You can do what you want, but Japan's size limits it's budget.
All that I listed isn't what I think will happen, it's what people conservatively have confirmed. See, to see the Chinese military tea leafs, Forums are somehow the best way, crazy I know.
lol, You need to move to Canada, and mostly America. It surprise me how our mutual Japanese friend doesn't have this mentality, maybe he went to America too late.Well, Izumo with F-35B is a carrier I think, lol. But let put that aside. I know that you're smart and understand military stuffs more than the other Chinese posters here. You're not a troll. I think Nihonjin also respect you, and you are one of my favorite Chinese poster in PDF. So let us discuss military stuff in a more positive way. Whatever it is Indonesia, China, and Japan. We know that Indonesia still need to run faster and harder to chase your accomplishment. But I think friends should be discuss in positive way and not just jabs each others pointlessly.
We have 2 Light carriers of the Hyuga class, 1 light carrier of the Izumo class and 1 more being constructed. The beauty of Japan's light carriers is that we can project as a blue water navy, enough to land an invasion force. The AAS that we plan to procure (+ build) will help Japan protect the sea lanes and aid in any expeditionary capabilities.
You're right, our defense budget is very modest, at 0.9% of the GDP, and we spend about $60 Billion per year on national defense. But that does not include our recent defense plan that alots over $240 Billion for military equipment procurement.
yes it is. Yes, it is.Its good to trade input. Its good to know the other side.
lol, You need to move to Canada, and mostly America. It surprise me how our mutual Japanese friend doesn't have this mentality, maybe he went to America too late.
Either way, my way or the highway is the American way, and sort of the Canadian way, I been there too long. lol
That's what you meant? I thought it was that magazine piece you showed one time. Well in that case you probably have more don't you have 3 Izumo or something and another class that you didn't include.
I purposely didn't say anything about the LHDs, for one I have no clue on those, while it's not difficult to construct right now, it's not really needed right now, nor do we have the helicopters or staff to handle them. Too many new platforms in China is really pushing the officer core to the limit.
So I wouldn't expect these ships be brought to their full potential before 2025, and most likely beyond. 2050, is really the deadline for this anyways.
Servicing is the money maker, I know because most of what gives my bosswoman the cash to pay me comes from servicing. Though that should still leave plenty for new weapons.
Arms race, it's on man, it's on.
yes it is. Yes, it is.
That's what you meant? I thought it was that magazine piece you showed one time. Well in that case you probably have more don't you have 3 Izumo or something and another class that you didn't include.
Either way, my way or the highway is the American way, and sort of the Canadian way, I been there too long. lol
It seems that the Chinese defense industry is in a construction mode right now. That's good, it indicates high innovation, and will drive competition with partners. I view competition as a healthy component as it encourages creativity, research and design. Keep it up !I purposely didn't say anything about the LHDs, for one I have no clue on those, while it's not difficult to construct right now, it's not really needed right now, nor do we have the helicopters or staff to handle them. Too many new platforms in China is really pushing the officer core to the limit.
he he he. takes two to tango, buddy.Arms race, it's on man, it's on.
(Before this thread is hijacked by Nihonjin1051 with his mighty Hyuuga and Izomo..., so I desperately goggling for Indonesia military photo. I think this is an old photo, but hopefully can kick his Hyuuga and Izumo from this thread )
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China is definitely need an LHD, believe me.
Indonesia has a ship that almost a helo carrier. I don't know if it is an LPD or something. I know that it is not as uber as Type 071, but nevertheless it's shiny. You see that, it's shiny
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