Indonesia Defence Forum

[GraveDigger388]

I think its not a PC game.

AW is PC game and console.

 

[striver44]

View attachment 600268
So he talked about Opv 105 m huh?

The one prabowo talked with is TKMS

Hmmm pkr lagi.

 

[Indos]

Harimau Tank in Armored Warfare.

https://aw.my.games/en/news/general/development-harimau

I am waiting DCS game include KFX/IFX fighter on their game.

 

[striver44]

So the navy wants to add anti surface capability aboard its panther helo.
https://www.janes.com/article/93706...submarine-surface-kits-for-five-more-panthers
Something like this?

MBDA Marte ER

 

[mandala]

What if Indonesia had Rafale and Scorpene submarines?

By Michel Cabirol | 01/17/2020, 6:00 AM | 

Already sold in India and Malaysia, the Scorpene could well dock in Indonesia (Credits: DCNS)

The Indonesian Minister of Defense explained to France that his country wanted to arm itself to counter the Chinese threat. Jakarta is interested in 48 Rafale, up to 4 Scorpene and 2 Gowind.

According to concordant sources, Indonesia is interested in purchasing Rafale fighter planes (Dassault Aviation), Scorpene submarines and Gowind corvettes (Naval Group). The visit to Paris on Monday of the Minister of Defense of Indonesia, Prabowo Subianto, an ex-general reputed to be Francophile, was considered constructive even if we must remain very cautious at this stage. Thus, the Indonesian minister was expected in stride in Hamburg at TKMS. Tensions with China are leading to rearmament of the countries bordering the China Sea. This is the case of Indonesia, which has deployed combat aircraft and warships around the Natuna Islands near the South China Sea.

According to sources interviewed by La Tribune, Jakarta is interested in 48 Rafale, up to 4 Scorpene submarines armed with Exocet SM39 missile and by two 2,500-ton Gowind corvettes. These purchases could be made through an intergovernmental agreement between France and Indonesia, which wishes to go quickly. In 10 years, Paris has sold 1.36 billion euros in military equipment to Jakarta, with a peak in 2013 (480 million euros). That year, the missile MBDA had sold for more than 200 million euros a very short range surface-to-air weapon system (Mistral 3) and Nexter had placed 37 Caesar systems (115 million euros). The tricolor groups can rely on the strategic partnership signed in 2011 between France and Indonesia.

Read more: https://www.latribune.fr/entreprise...afale-et-des-sous-marins-scorpene-837339.html

 

[Raduga]

What if Indonesia had Rafale and Scorpene submarines?

By Michel Cabirol | 01/17/2020, 6:00 AM | 

Already sold in India and Malaysia, the Scorpene could well dock in Indonesia (Credits: DCNS)

The Indonesian Minister of Defense explained to France that his country wanted to arm itself to counter the Chinese threat. Jakarta is interested in 48 Rafale, up to 4 Scorpene and 2 Gowind.

According to concordant sources, Indonesia is interested in purchasing Rafale fighter planes (Dassault Aviation), Scorpene submarines and Gowind corvettes (Naval Group). The visit to Paris on Monday of the Minister of Defense of Indonesia, Prabowo Subianto, an ex-general reputed to be Francophile, was considered constructive even if we must remain very cautious at this stage. Thus, the Indonesian minister was expected in stride in Hamburg at TKMS. Tensions with China are leading to rearmament of the countries bordering the China Sea. This is the case of Indonesia, which has deployed combat aircraft and warships around the Natuna Islands near the South China Sea.

According to sources interviewed by La Tribune, Jakarta is interested in 48 Rafale, up to 4 Scorpene submarines armed with Exocet SM39 missile and by two 2,500-ton Gowind corvettes. These purchases could be made through an intergovernmental agreement between France and Indonesia, which wishes to go quickly. In 10 years, Paris has sold 1.36 billion euros in military equipment to Jakarta, with a peak in 2013 (480 million euros). That year, the missile MBDA had sold for more than 200 million euros a very short range surface-to-air weapon system (Mistral 3) and Nexter had placed 37 Caesar systems (115 million euros). The tricolor groups can rely on the strategic partnership signed in 2011 between France and Indonesia.

Read more: https://www.latribune.fr/entreprise...afale-et-des-sous-marins-scorpene-837339.html

should hold back a little , and wait for the futher notice from our ministry of defence , though i would crave for Rafale even if it means su-35 will not come .

 

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What if Indonesia had Rafale and Scorpene submarines?

By Michel Cabirol | 01/17/2020, 6:00 AM | 

Already sold in India and Malaysia, the Scorpene could well dock in Indonesia (Credits: DCNS)

The Indonesian Minister of Defense explained to France that his country wanted to arm itself to counter the Chinese threat. Jakarta is interested in 48 Rafale, up to 4 Scorpene and 2 Gowind.

According to concordant sources, Indonesia is interested in purchasing Rafale fighter planes (Dassault Aviation), Scorpene submarines and Gowind corvettes (Naval Group). The visit to Paris on Monday of the Minister of Defense of Indonesia, Prabowo Subianto, an ex-general reputed to be Francophile, was considered constructive even if we must remain very cautious at this stage. Thus, the Indonesian minister was expected in stride in Hamburg at TKMS. Tensions with China are leading to rearmament of the countries bordering the China Sea. This is the case of Indonesia, which has deployed combat aircraft and warships around the Natuna Islands near the South China Sea.

According to sources interviewed by La Tribune, Jakarta is interested in 48 Rafale, up to 4 Scorpene submarines armed with Exocet SM39 missile and by two 2,500-ton Gowind corvettes. These purchases could be made through an intergovernmental agreement between France and Indonesia, which wishes to go quickly. In 10 years, Paris has sold 1.36 billion euros in military equipment to Jakarta, with a peak in 2013 (480 million euros). That year, the missile MBDA had sold for more than 200 million euros a very short range surface-to-air weapon system (Mistral 3) and Nexter had placed 37 Caesar systems (115 million euros). The tricolor groups can rely on the strategic partnership signed in 2011 between France and Indonesia.

Read more: https://www.latribune.fr/entreprise...afale-et-des-sous-marins-scorpene-837339.html

complete translation of the article:

Between two and four Scorpene
In 2015, the Indonesian Air Force bought 16 Sukhoi Su-35s to renew a squadron of old F-5E Tiger IIs, at the expense of the Rafale and the Eurofighter. Regarding the Scorpene submarines already sold in India and Malaysia, Indonesia has two French proposals: one relating to the sale of two submarines off the shelf and the other to the acquisition of four copies carried out as part of a technology transfer (ToT) with the Indonesian group PT PAL. A working group has already been set up between Naval Group and the Indonesian Navy.

Why does Indonesia still want to buy new submarines? The Indonesian navy has reportedly encountered serious problems with its Chang Bogo-class submarines produced by South Korea. It will cancel a contract signed with Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME) and estimated at $ 1 billion for the construction of three additional submarines. French submarine technology is appreciated in Asia-Pacific, a region where Naval Group already has three customers in the submarine field (Malaysia, India and Australia).

 

[umigami]

What if Indonesia had Rafale and Scorpene submarines?

By Michel Cabirol | 01/17/2020, 6:00 AM | 

Already sold in India and Malaysia, the Scorpene could well dock in Indonesia (Credits: DCNS)

The Indonesian Minister of Defense explained to France that his country wanted to arm itself to counter the Chinese threat. Jakarta is interested in 48 Rafale, up to 4 Scorpene and 2 Gowind.

According to concordant sources, Indonesia is interested in purchasing Rafale fighter planes (Dassault Aviation), Scorpene submarines and Gowind corvettes (Naval Group). The visit to Paris on Monday of the Minister of Defense of Indonesia, Prabowo Subianto, an ex-general reputed to be Francophile, was considered constructive even if we must remain very cautious at this stage. Thus, the Indonesian minister was expected in stride in Hamburg at TKMS. Tensions with China are leading to rearmament of the countries bordering the China Sea. This is the case of Indonesia, which has deployed combat aircraft and warships around the Natuna Islands near the South China Sea.

According to sources interviewed by La Tribune, Jakarta is interested in 48 Rafale, up to 4 Scorpene submarines armed with Exocet SM39 missile and by two 2,500-ton Gowind corvettes. These purchases could be made through an intergovernmental agreement between France and Indonesia, which wishes to go quickly. In 10 years, Paris has sold 1.36 billion euros in military equipment to Jakarta, with a peak in 2013 (480 million euros). That year, the missile MBDA had sold for more than 200 million euros a very short range surface-to-air weapon system (Mistral 3) and Nexter had placed 37 Caesar systems (115 million euros). The tricolor groups can rely on the strategic partnership signed in 2011 between France and Indonesia.

Read more: https://www.latribune.fr/entreprise...afale-et-des-sous-marins-scorpene-837339.html

WHAT? 48 RAFALES??
BUSEEET BOSS...
no way, that's too good to be true...

 

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[Kansel]

WHAT? 48 RAFALES??
BUSEEET BOSS...
no way, that's too good to be true...

Not even a single f*cking sense for me. India aja sempet keteteran beli rafale segitu banyaknya yakali ini 48 rafale buat penerbal soalnya AU kan udah kekeh pengen viper

 

[umigami]

Not even a single f*cking sense for me. India aja sempet keteteran beli rafale segitu banyaknya yakali ini 48 rafale buat penerbal soalnya AU kan udah kekeh pengen viper

Except they plan to replace something else ...
But still, it's too good to be true.
That's what I called "mimpi basah" level..

 

[HellFireIndo]

Just...stick with F-16 pls, we shouldn't be following Thai or Indian level of hoarding planes of different models of the same weight class, moreover, any need for fighters that couldnt be fulfilled by F-16's spec, are meant to be filled with IFX.

 

[Raduga]

is the buzz in the internet about extended version of 150 meter Iver Huitfeldt true ? i wonder how it's going to look like

 

[mandala]

Not even a single f*cking sense for me. India aja sempet keteteran beli rafale segitu banyaknya yakali ini 48 rafale buat penerbal soalnya AU kan udah kekeh pengen viper

I don't think the offer is for penerbal.

 

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Why does Indonesia still want to buy new submarines? The Indonesian navy has reportedly encountered serious problems with its Chang Bogo-class submarines produced by South Korea. It will cancel a contract signed with Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME) and estimated at $ 1 billion for the construction of three additional submarines.

Wait, what's the Recent problem with our Chang Bogo? I think they already fix their battery issue...