Indonesia Defence Forum

[Kansel]

Why no amraam?

Cuma variant CATM yang avaible

Looks like Russian made SAM is more proven to downing civillian aircraft more than ever, better to stick with western type

That's ironic

knowing their fanboys posted this

 

[Chestnut]

Cuma variant CATM yang avaible


That's ironicView attachment 599182 knowing their fanboys posted this

There were no Patriots in Iraq at the time. The closest batteries were in Kuwait and they were assigned to protect the assets over there.

Make no mistake, American Patriots are undoubtedly more versatile and functional than their Russian counterparts.

 

[NEKONEKO]

Looks like Russian made SAM is more proven to downing civillian aircraft more than ever, better to stick with western type

They should start to develop some kind of technologies to prevent this kind of tragedy from happening again in the future, 3 civilian aircraft downed already because radar and SAM operator miss identifying them, and another one just very suspicious and over aggresive, though already doing visual contact and still shot it down.

 

[Kansel]

• NATIONAL

6,000 Indonesian terrorists identified abroad, minister says




News Desk
The Jakarta Post

Jakarta

Jakarta / Fri, January 10, 2020 / 09:01 pm

Coordinating Political, Legal and Security Affairs Minister Mahfud MD has said that over 6,000 Indonesian citizens have been identified as foreign terrorist fighters (FTFs).(tribunnews.com/Istimewa)

Coordinating Political, Legal and Security Affairs Minister Mahfud MD has said that over 6,000 Indonesian citizens have been identified as foreign terrorist fighters (FTFs).

“In Syria only, there are 187 [Indonesian citizens]. More than 6,000 of our citizens abroad have been identified as terrorists,” Mahfud said in Jakarta on Friday, kompas.com reported.

“We must bring a lot of them back to Indonesia.”

Mahfud said the government had been concerned about the FTF issue, including the challenge of bringing them back without posing threats to national security.

To enhance counterterrorism efforts, Indonesia hopes to cooperate with Japan.

Japan Counterterrorism Agency director general Shigenobu Fukumoto visited Mahfud on Friday to discuss counterterrorism measures for the two nations.

Mahfud said the cooperation would likely include deradicalization efforts.

“There are many things that we would cooperate on. There would also be a joint team established to discuss terrorism and regional security,” Mahfud said. (sau)

No,mr Mahfud i don't see that as a good idea.

 

[Fl0gger]

There were no Patriots in Iraq at the time. The closest batteries were in Kuwait and they were assigned to protect the assets over there.

Make no mistake, American Patriots are undoubtedly more versatile and functional than their Russian counterparts.

trus yg terjadi di arab saudi dgn patriot nya menghadapi scud houti bagaimana pak penjelasanya

 

[NEKONEKO]

Pretty sure the patriot able to intercept scud, but to deal with low flying drone or cruise missiles should invest more on CIWS like Skyshield ot CRAM.
imo

 

[Kansel]

Nice move!
Indonesia asks Japan to invest in Natuna islands following stand-off with China


10 Jan 2020 03:39PM(Updated: 10 Jan 2020 03:51PM)
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JAKARTA: Indonesia's President Joko Widodo on Friday (Jan 10) asked Japan to step up investment in fisheries and energy in the Natuna islands following a stand-off with China in waters near the disputed South China Sea.

Widodo made the request during a visit to Jakarta by Japanese Foreign Minister Toshimitsu Motegi, the president's office said in a statement.

Chinese coastguard and fishing vessels had entered Indonesia's exclusive economic zone several times since last month.

China has not claimed the Natuna islands themselves but says it has nearby fishing rights within a self-proclaimed Nine-Dash Line - a line on Chinese maps that it says shows its territory and waters.

The line loops far south from China and includes most of the South China Sea, but it is a claim that is not recognised internationally. Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia and Taiwan have rival claims in the South China Sea.

READ: Indonesia rejects China's claims over South China Sea[/paste:font]
Indonesian Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi told reporters Widodo had asked Japan to invest in fisheries, energy and tourism in Natuna.

"We also agreed to strengthen coastguard coordination," she said.

Japan's Foreign Minister Toshimitsu Motegi (C) is greeted by Indonesian Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi (R) at the foreign ministry office in Jakarta on Jan 10, 2020. (Photo: AFP/BAY ISMOYO)


Indonesia had stepped up air and sea patrols in the area and summoned China's ambassador over the appearance of the ships. An Indonesian military spokesman said the vessels left the area after Widodo's trip.

READ: Indonesia deploys fighter jets in stand-off with China
READ: Indonesia deploys 4 additional warships to Natuna amid standoff with Chinese vessels
China says it is in contact with Indonesia through diplomatic channels to resolve differences and uphold stability in the region.

Motegi, speaking through a translator after a meeting with Marsudi, did not refer to China but said Japan was wary about the situation in the South China Sea.

"We shared a serious concern regarding efforts to change with force the status quo unilaterally and we confirmed continuing close collaboration," he said.

READ: Commentary - Indonesia’s high-stakes stand-off with China in the South China Sea
Japan last year gave Indonesia 100 billion rupiah (US$7.26 million) to build a fish market in Natuna, which will be named Tsukiji after the famous Tokyo market, media reported.

Construction of the market in Natuna, and markets on other Indonesian islands, will begin this year, Motegi said.

Source: Reuters/jt

 

[Nike]

Week end pic

Supposedly New point design for presidential helicopter, so for a while using caracal.

 

[striver44]

KAPAL COAST GUARD CHINA KEMBALI KE NATUNA (PHOTO)
12 JANUARI 2020 DIANEKO_LC 1 KOMENTAR


Kapal Coast Guard China-5302 memotong haluan KRI Usman Harun-359 pada jarak 60 yards (sekitar 55 meter) saat melaksanakan patroli mendekati kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020). (FOTO : M RISYAL HIDAYAT/ANTARA FOTO)

Kapal Coast Guard China-5202 dan Coast Guard China-4301 membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli mendekati kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020). (FOTO : M RISYAL HIDAYAT/ANTARA FOTO)

Kapal Coast Guard China-5202 dan Coast Guard China-5403 membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli mendekati kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020). (FOTO : M RISYAL HIDAYAT/ANTARA FOTO)

Kapal Coast Guard China-4301 membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli mendekati kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020) dini hari. Dalam patroli tersebut KRI Usman Harun-359 bersama KRI Jhon Lie-358 dan KRI Karel Satsuitubun-356 melakukan patroli dan bertemu enam kapal Coast Guard China, satu kapal pengawas perikanan China, dan 49 kapal nelayan pukat asing. (FOTO : M RISYAL HIDAYAT/ANTARA FOTO)

Kapal Coast Guard China-5202 membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli mendekati kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020). (FOTO : M RISYAL HIDAYAT/ANTARA FOTO)

Sejumlah kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020) dini hari. Dalam patroli tersebut KRI Usman Harun-359 bersama KRI Jhon Lie-358 dan KRI Karel Satsuitubun-356 melakukan patroli dan bertemu enam kapal Coast Guard China, satu kapal pengawas perikanan China, dan 49 kapal nelayan pukat asing. (FOTO : ANTARA FOTO)

Perwira jaga KRI Usman Harun-359 mengamati radar navigasi saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

KRI Karel Satsuitubun-356 (kanan) dibayangi Kapal Coast Guard China (kiri) saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

Kapal Coast Guard China membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

Kapal Coast Guard China membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

Kapal Coast Guard China membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

Kapal Coast Guard China membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

Credit :Antara

Well, the battle is still on.

 

[mandala]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1216007905582841856

 

[Nike]

KAPAL COAST GUARD CHINA KEMBALI KE NATUNA (PHOTO)
12 JANUARI 2020 DIANEKO_LC 1 KOMENTAR


Kapal Coast Guard China-5302 memotong haluan KRI Usman Harun-359 pada jarak 60 yards (sekitar 55 meter) saat melaksanakan patroli mendekati kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020). (FOTO : M RISYAL HIDAYAT/ANTARA FOTO)

Kapal Coast Guard China-5202 dan Coast Guard China-4301 membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli mendekati kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020). (FOTO : M RISYAL HIDAYAT/ANTARA FOTO)

Kapal Coast Guard China-5202 dan Coast Guard China-5403 membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli mendekati kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020). (FOTO : M RISYAL HIDAYAT/ANTARA FOTO)

Kapal Coast Guard China-4301 membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli mendekati kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020) dini hari. Dalam patroli tersebut KRI Usman Harun-359 bersama KRI Jhon Lie-358 dan KRI Karel Satsuitubun-356 melakukan patroli dan bertemu enam kapal Coast Guard China, satu kapal pengawas perikanan China, dan 49 kapal nelayan pukat asing. (FOTO : M RISYAL HIDAYAT/ANTARA FOTO)

Kapal Coast Guard China-5202 membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli mendekati kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020). (FOTO : M RISYAL HIDAYAT/ANTARA FOTO)

Sejumlah kapal nelayan pukat China yang melakukan penangkapan ikan di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1/2020) dini hari. Dalam patroli tersebut KRI Usman Harun-359 bersama KRI Jhon Lie-358 dan KRI Karel Satsuitubun-356 melakukan patroli dan bertemu enam kapal Coast Guard China, satu kapal pengawas perikanan China, dan 49 kapal nelayan pukat asing. (FOTO : ANTARA FOTO)

Perwira jaga KRI Usman Harun-359 mengamati radar navigasi saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

KRI Karel Satsuitubun-356 (kanan) dibayangi Kapal Coast Guard China (kiri) saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

Kapal Coast Guard China membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

Kapal Coast Guard China membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

Kapal Coast Guard China membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

Kapal Coast Guard China membayangi KRI Usman Harun-359 saat melaksanakan patroli di ZEE Indonesia Utara Pulau Natuna, Sabtu (11/1). (Foto: ANTARA FOTO/M Risyal Hidayat)

Credit :Antara

Well, the battle is still on.

Indonesia should starting to reverse engineering or license production of Oto melara 76 mm gun and Bofors 57 mm as our country will need them in very large number to fulfill our Navy and Coast guard needs

 

[Kansel]

I guess one more step closer to supply phils with our Medium Tank&additional LPD


INDONESIA – PHILIPINA KOORDINASI UPDATE MOU LOGISTIK DAN KERJA SAMA INDUSTRI PERTAHANAN
11 JANUARI 2020 DIANEKO_LC TINGGALKAN KOMENTAR

Indonesia – Philipina Koordinasi Update MoU Logistik dan Kerja Sama Industri Pertahanan (Kemhan)

Pada Kamis (09/01/2020) pukul 16.00 WIB bertempat di Ruang VIP R. Suprapto Ditjen Pothan Kemhan, Dirjen Pothan Kemhan Prof. Dr. Ir. Bondan Tiara Sofyan, M.Si, Dirtekindhan Ditjen Pothan Kemhan Laksma TNI Sri Yanto, S.T., Direktur Asia Tenggara Kemlu Denny Abdi beserta perwakilan Dittekindhan Ditjen Pothan Kemhan, perwakilan Ditkersinhan Ditjen Strahan Kemhan, perwakilan Direktorat HPI Kemlu menerima Courtesy Call Dubes Philipina di Indonesia H.E. Lee Hiong Wee beserta Atase Pertahanan Philipina di Indonesia dan Pejabat Fungsi Politik Kedubes Philipina di Indonesia.

Dilansir dari laman web Kemhan (10/ 1/ 2020), dalam pertemuan ini Dirjen Pothan Kemhan menyampaikan bahwa Indonesia dan Philipina merupakan negara sahabat yang penting di kawasan Asia Tenggara serta telah lama membangun kerja sama di bidang Pertahanan dengan Indonesia.

Dirjen Pothan Kemhan juga menyampaikan maksud dan tujuan bertemu Dubes Philipina adalah untuk berkoordinasi dan berkomunikasi dengan pihak Philipina perihal Update MoU Logistik dan Kerja Sama Industri Pertahanan yang saat ini masih menjadi pembahasan di pihak Philipina serta menginformasikan bahwa dalam waktu dekat delegasi Indonesia akan berkunjung ke Philipina guna membahas MoU Logistik tersebut.

Dubes Philipina membantu dan menginformasikan ke pejabat di Philipina terkait dengan keinginan dari pihak Indonesia dan berharap hubungan kerja sama serta persahabatan Indonesia-Philipina dapat terus ditingkatkan dan berkembang di masa yang akan datang.

Editor: (D.E.S)

 

[Kansel]

Thanks Japan

INDONESIA
JEPANG BAKAL HIBAHKAN KAPAL PENGAWAS PERIKANAN
12 JANUARI 2020 DIANEKO_LC TINGGALKAN KOMENTAR

Kapal Penjaga Pantai Filipina dari Jepang (Istimewa)

Pemerintah Jepang melalui Menteri Luar Negeri (Menlu) Motegi Toshimitsu menyampaikan komitmennya untuk mendukung prioritas Pemerintah Republik Indonesia di bidang ekonomi dan peningkatan SDM Indonesia. Komitmen tersebut disampaikan Menlu Jepang Motegi Toshimitsu dalam pertemuan ke-7 Strategic Dialogue RI-Jepang, di Jakarta, Jumat (10/1).


Dilansir dari laman Liputan6 (11/ 01/ 2020), Menteri Luar Negeri (Menlu) Retno Marsudi mengatakan, selain meningkatkan kerja sama investasi dan perdagangan, Menlu Jepang juga sepakat untuk mengintensifkan kerja sama pengembangan Sentra Kelautan dan Perikanan Terpadu (SKPT) di 6 pulau terluar Indonesia.

“Khusus untuk Natuna, selain industri perikanan, Jepang akan membantu hibah kapal pengawas perikanan dan jajaki pengembangan industri pariwisata,” kata Menlu seperti dikutip dari laman Setkab.go.id, Sabtu (11/1/2020).

Jepang juga berkomitmen terus memperluas investasi di Indonesia dan mendukung modernisasi industri dan keinginan Indonesia menjadi hub re-ekspor produk manufaktur Jepang di kawasan.

Menlu RI juga sambut baik ketertarikan Jepang pada pembangunan ibu kota baru. “Saya mengundang Jepang untuk mengembangkan konsep smart metropolis ibu kota baru, seperti klaster pendidikan (science city) dan kota berdimensi hutan (forest city),” kata Menlu.

Guna mendukung kampanye sawit Indonesia, lanjut Menlu, Jepang siap mengirimkan tim ahli untuk membantu meningkatkan aspek keberlanjutan (sustainability) sawit Indonesia.

Selain itu, Menlu RI juga mengundang Jepang investasi di bidang teknologi sanitari buah tropis guna mendorong peningkatan ekspor Indonesia.

Editor: (D.E.S)

 

[Chestnut]

trus yg terjadi di arab saudi dgn patriot nya menghadapi scud houti bagaimana pak penjelasanya

A system isn't going to have 100% interception rate. The Saudi's have managed to destroy countless of missiles launched by the Houthis at the cost of a few failed interceptions.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-a...-in-saudi-arabias-missile-defense-11561455002

The reality is that the Patriot system has a better track record than the S-300/400 series.

 

[Raduga]

Thanks Japan

INDONESIA
JEPANG BAKAL HIBAHKAN KAPAL PENGAWAS PERIKANAN
12 JANUARI 2020 DIANEKO_LC TINGGALKAN KOMENTAR

Kapal Penjaga Pantai Filipina dari Jepang (Istimewa)

Pemerintah Jepang melalui Menteri Luar Negeri (Menlu) Motegi Toshimitsu menyampaikan komitmennya untuk mendukung prioritas Pemerintah Republik Indonesia di bidang ekonomi dan peningkatan SDM Indonesia. Komitmen tersebut disampaikan Menlu Jepang Motegi Toshimitsu dalam pertemuan ke-7 Strategic Dialogue RI-Jepang, di Jakarta, Jumat (10/1).


Dilansir dari laman Liputan6 (11/ 01/ 2020), Menteri Luar Negeri (Menlu) Retno Marsudi mengatakan, selain meningkatkan kerja sama investasi dan perdagangan, Menlu Jepang juga sepakat untuk mengintensifkan kerja sama pengembangan Sentra Kelautan dan Perikanan Terpadu (SKPT) di 6 pulau terluar Indonesia.

“Khusus untuk Natuna, selain industri perikanan, Jepang akan membantu hibah kapal pengawas perikanan dan jajaki pengembangan industri pariwisata,” kata Menlu seperti dikutip dari laman Setkab.go.id, Sabtu (11/1/2020).

Jepang juga berkomitmen terus memperluas investasi di Indonesia dan mendukung modernisasi industri dan keinginan Indonesia menjadi hub re-ekspor produk manufaktur Jepang di kawasan.

Menlu RI juga sambut baik ketertarikan Jepang pada pembangunan ibu kota baru. “Saya mengundang Jepang untuk mengembangkan konsep smart metropolis ibu kota baru, seperti klaster pendidikan (science city) dan kota berdimensi hutan (forest city),” kata Menlu.

Guna mendukung kampanye sawit Indonesia, lanjut Menlu, Jepang siap mengirimkan tim ahli untuk membantu meningkatkan aspek keberlanjutan (sustainability) sawit Indonesia.

Selain itu, Menlu RI juga mengundang Jepang investasi di bidang teknologi sanitari buah tropis guna mendorong peningkatan ekspor Indonesia.

Editor: (D.E.S)

i wonder what kind of ship that they will donate to us , is our APBN really that tight that we can't even procure more KP Orca from PT.DRU ? our local industry like citra shipyard , DRU , Batamec have capability to produce 120-130 meter + patrol vessel if only our administration ask them for it (and at cheaper price ofc) .