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[Kansel]

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[Nike]

Looks like C705, a lot

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[The Ronin]

Nepalese Army to receive second Indonesian-built CN-235-220 multipurpose aircraft
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Defence Weekly
30 October 2019

A CN-235-220 multipurpose aircraft on order for the Nepalese Army has begun its journey home, a representative from Indonesia's state-owned aerospace company, PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI), confirmed to Jane's on 30 October.

The aircraft began the journey from Bandung, West Java, on the same day, and is scheduled to arrive in Kathmandu, Nepal, on 2 November. The aircraft will make stops in the Indonesian city of Medan in Sumatra, as well as Bangladesh and Myanmar on its journey home.

The aircraft, which bears the serial number AX-2347, will be the second CN-235-220 to be operated by the Nepalese Army's Air Service. The country signed for its first airframe of the type with PTDI in 2017, and ordered the subsequent aircraft in the following year.

https://www.janes.com/article/92276...u0Aq0cyzmfbdRjSV33A1zA0wlKFWZoksxeLpMHVwVeIjU

probably a complete reverse engineered c-705 with a high wing and domestic made booster by LAPAN

According to wiki it will be licensed/jointly manufactured by Indonesia for KCR type fast attack craft.

 

[Kansel]

Quite interesting concept maybe a good choice if army looking for mobile AD

https://twitter.com/x/status/1190088553050628096

"kotak sabun"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1189521426983743488

 

[Raduga]

Kan udah gua bilang itu petir . kalo RE c705 itu nanti guidance system dan seeker jadi . di IG apa disebutin anti kapal ? Yg ada kan rudal jelajah.

Dunia rudal level terendah itu rudal jelajah bro ,karena targetnya diem diem bae.. Ningkat lagi anti kapal ,targetnya lemot , ningkat lagi anti missile ,fighter ,helo atc ...

Untuk upgrade dari jelajah ke anti kapal itu kuncinya di guidance system atau gampangnya komputer didalem rudal , itu yg command and control seluruh sensor baik gps ,ins, seeker,dan sirip rudal ...kapan sensor hidup ,terbang rendah , belok , seeker hidup , dan mengenali target anti jamming.

Secara fisik ya sama antara jelajah dan anti kapal . yg beda itu guidance systemnya ..anti kapal system nya lebih rumit karena harus mengenali target anti jamming ,anti tipu tipu ,bisa menghindar dari ciws , ...

Well i never said it was for anti ship purpose , that's why in the previous page i said "could be a good platform for our anti ship missile" , and i do know basic difference between cruise missile and anti ship missile with active seeker .

missile like this are extremely difference than anti air missile i believe , the anti air missile need another research on rocket fuel since AAM continuously use rocket propellant and also airframe (since most AA missile will conduct a high G maneuver) , and not turbojet engine , unlike the cruise missile which only need propellant booster to throw the missile into air until the turbojet engine fly the missile.

i really hope this would become a base platform for our indigenous antiship missile too.

but it could also be not even related to av-tm 300 , could be a completely new self made missile design , since i heard the "petir" missile would enter the last development stage in 2020 .

Quite interesting concept maybe a good choice if army looking for mobile AD

https://twitter.com/x/status/1190088553050628096

"kotak sabun"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1189521426983743488

i prefer the truck mounted one tbh , much more flexible .

 

[NEKONEKO]

PINDAD currently developing munitions for Harimau MMWT (105 mm), it's still in testing and certification phase.

“Sekarang sedang pengujian-pengujian. Memang masih dalam pengembangan terus. Satu saat, mudah-mudahan tahun depan sudah bisa kita penuhi amunisinya,” kata Sekretaris Perusahaan PT Pindad, Tuning Rudyati kepada Tempo, Kamis, 3 Oktober 2019..
Medium Tank Harimau mengusung meriam kaliber 105 milimeter. Pengembangan amunisinya kini sedang dalam tahap pengujian dan sertifikasi. Dengan penguasaan amunisi maka pengembangan Tank Harimau tersebut lengkap.
“Amunisinya juga dari Pindad. Satu itu, perlengkapannya, semua,” kata Tuning.

https://tekno.tempo.co/read/1255347/harimau-medium-tank-andalan-pindad-khusus-untuk-daerah-tropis

Meanwhile the cruise missile are still in aerodynamic testing phase, and so does the AGM.

 

[Kansel]

PINDAD currently developing munitions for Harimau MMWT (105 mm), it's still in testing and certification phase.

“Sekarang sedang pengujian-pengujian. Memang masih dalam pengembangan terus. Satu saat, mudah-mudahan tahun depan sudah bisa kita penuhi amunisinya,” kata Sekretaris Perusahaan PT Pindad, Tuning Rudyati kepada Tempo, Kamis, 3 Oktober 2019..
Medium Tank Harimau mengusung meriam kaliber 105 milimeter. Pengembangan amunisinya kini sedang dalam tahap pengujian dan sertifikasi. Dengan penguasaan amunisi maka pengembangan Tank Harimau tersebut lengkap.
“Amunisinya juga dari Pindad. Satu itu, perlengkapannya, semua,” kata Tuning.

https://tekno.tempo.co/read/1255347/harimau-medium-tank-andalan-pindad-khusus-untuk-daerah-tropis

Meanwhile the cruise missile are still in aerodynamic testing phase, and so does the AGM.

I thought that maverick RE project got canceled then disappeared into atom?

 

[Indos]

According to wiki it will be licensed/jointly manufactured by Indonesia for KCR type fast attack craft.

Nope, the program has been stopped. China doesnt want to share critical technology with us.

 

[Gundala]

postingan gua tolong di hapus , soalnya gua barusan searching di internet..... ada tutorial buat rudal amatir dan roket amatir . takutnya TERORIS baca tulisan gua di atas yg detail bagaimana bekerjannya rudal . walaupun orang umum taunya komputer itu ada layarnya tapi kalo TERORIS pintar dia tau maksud komputer itu bla bla bla yg dibungkus ada port untuk bla bla bla , bahaya .

sumpah demi apapun ada tutorialnya bahannnya ada dipasaran. orang umum taunya itu tutorial elektronik biasa tapi kalo ngerti bagaimana rudal bekerja dia bisa ngrakit sendiri . gua ga boong . hapus postingan gua yg diatas secepatnnya terima kasih bro sebelumnya

opo meneh iki...lebay ah mas bro

 

[Raduga]

postingan gua tolong di hapus , soalnya gua barusan searching di internet..... ada tutorial buat rudal amatir dan roket amatir . takutnya TERORIS baca tulisan gua di atas yg detail bagaimana bekerjannya rudal . walaupun orang umum taunya komputer itu ada layarnya tapi kalo TERORIS pintar dia tau maksud komputer itu bla bla bla yg dibungkus ada port untuk bla bla bla , bahaya .

sumpah demi apapun ada tutorialnya bahannnya ada dipasaran. orang umum taunya itu tutorial elektronik biasa tapi kalo ngerti bagaimana rudal bekerja dia bisa ngrakit sendiri . gua ga boong . hapus postingan gua yg diatas secepatnnya terima kasih bro sebelumnya .

ini contoh tutorial rudal amatir , yg tengah itu gua hapus itu bahaya . ga usah tanya link ya broo
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lebay euy , anak kuliahan yang pernah ikut UKM robotika dan telemetri juga bisa bro , bahkan mungkin SMK , tengah nya apaan ?? atmega atau AVR + system minimum + breadboard ??

 

[rondo.royal2]

lebay euy , anak kuliahan yang pernah ikut UKM robotika dan telemetri juga bisa bro , bahkan mungkin SMK , tengah nya apaan ?? atmega atau AVR + system minimum + breadboard ??

atmega ? avr? system minimum ? breadboard? ya bukan masak itu

gua takut doang , soalnya TERORIS ada yg danain dari luar . TERORIS lokal yg eksekusi kan gua takut aja sih . musim TERORIS . bodo amat gua lebay

postingan gua hapus ya , pokoknya hapus postingan gua diatas semua.. bom panci itu mereka lihat internet , ada tutorial rudal jelajah yg mirip petir pake waypoint , itu yg nulis tutorial juga kawatir teroris mengaplikasikan . ya sapa tau teroris bisa ... tulisan gua diatas itu rada jelas banget how to work sebuah missile .

 

[striver44]

I still cant understand Navy fetishes for converting amphibipus ships into hospital ship, why not modify existing ex-pelni liners instead?. BTW..

Target Selesai 2021, Kapal BRS Pesanan TNI AL Mampu Tampung 163 Pasien
Setara RS Tipe C
SURABAYA RAYA
15 Oktober 2019, 20:59:55 WIB

PROYEK PANJANG: Proses pengelasan untuk menyambungkan badan kapal BRS. (Hariyanto Teng/Jawa Pos)


JawaPos.com – Manajemen PT PAL Indonesia memaparkan progres pembuatan kapal bantu rumah sakit (BRS) pesanan TNI-AL kemarin (14/10). Saat ini pembuatan kapal dengan nomor pembangunan W000302 itu sudah mencapai 27 persen. Targetnya, proyek tersebut selesai pada 2021.

Pembuatan kapal BRS dimulai Juli lalu. Kapal tersebut mampu mengangkut 651 orang. Itu sudah termasuk tenaga kesehatan yang berjumlah 89 orang. Dengan memiliki bobot total 7.300 ton, alat transportasi itu memungkinkan untuk membawa dua helikopter dan ambulans.

Kepala Divisi Corporate Secretary PT PAL Indonesia Rariya Budi Harta menuturkan bahwa keberadaan kapal tersebut bakal melengkapi dua kapal rumah sakit milik TNI-AL sebelumnya. Yakni, KRI Dr Soeharso dan KRI Semarang. ’’Bedanya, sejak awal kapal ini benar-benar dirancang untuk rumah sakit. Jadi, peralatannya cukup lengkap,” kata Rariya di sela-sela acara keel laying kemarin.

Acara yang digelar di Grand Assembly Divisi Niaga, PT PAL Indonesia, itu tidak hanya diikuti direksi dan manajemen PT PAL Indonesia. Sejumlah perwira TNI-AL juga hadir. Termasuk Asisten Logistik Kepala Staf Angkatan Laut (KSAL) Laksamana Muda Moelyanto.

Rariya menambahkan, ke depan kapal tidak hanya digunakan untuk kegiatan militer. Angkutan itu juga akan bergerak untuk misi kemanusiaan. Salah satunya bila terjadi bencana alam.

Kepala Proyek Kapal BRS-W000302 Adenandra Sulistyo menyebut fungsi utama kapal itu memang untuk kesehatan. Dengan begitu, bagian-bagiannya didesain secara khusus untuk membantu tindakan medis. Kapal tersebut setara rumah sakit tipe C di darat.

’’Kapasitasnya cukup besar. Estimasi mampu menampung 163 pasien,” kata Adenandra. Dia menyebutkan bahwa kapal itu juga dilengkapi ruang operasi sehingga memungkinkan adanya kegiatan pembedahan sewaktu-waktu. ’’Tentunya, petugas akan mempertimbangkan kondisi ombak agar operasi lancar,” kata Adenandra.

Selain ruang operasi, lanjut Adenandra, kapal itu dilengkapi sarana kesehatan lainnya. Mulai UGD, poliklinik, hingga ruang rawat inap. Dengan fasilitas lengkap, kapal tersebut diharapkan mampu membantu kegiatan diplomasi angkatan laut.

 

[Nike]

asal ada pupuk urea, abu vulkanik/batu apung, sampe lemak nabati macam minyak goreng bahan peledak konsentrasi tinggi bisa dibuat kok di industri rumahan. Kalo gak gitu, gimana caranya orang orang abad 18-19 mulai beralih dari serbuk mesiu menjadi propellant dengan konsentrat glicerin/glicerol dan nitrit.

 

[NEKONEKO]

I still cant understand Navy fetishes for converting amphibipus ships into hospital ship, why not modify existing ex-pelni liners instead?. BTW..

Because rather than full fledged hospital ship (specialized hospital ship), the hybrid LPD-hospital ship some time is more useful.
With LPD the navy can reach very remote and undeveloped island using LCU and/or helicopter, and can carry heavy equipment, ambulance, truck etc, during lombok earthquake albeit of its size and population lombok island lack of heavy equipment, iirc I saw the navy loaded heavy equipment (bego' from the engineering corps) to the LPD before they depart to lombok.
Now imagine some small island that most people don't even know the name, have small population, lack of infrastructure (which we have tons of them) got hit by natural disaster, they can't be reached by plane (no airstrip) even helicopters, ship can't dock because there is no pier etc, having this LPD-hospital is useful, many cards to play in different scenario. The LCU can be more usefull to provide transportation between the shore and ship rather than using dinghy boat / rhib (which can be carried by hospital ship and most of our combat ship) and when using helicopter is impossible.
Yes it has reduced capacity and limited medical equipment compared to those full fledged hospital ship, but it has it own perks. Having something like smaller version of USNS mercy would be good but having this multirole LPD won't be hurt, and about the number of this LPD ship I will just trust the professional assessment from the navy. IMO.

Also there are many Islands in western coast in sumatra that have high risk of earthquake and tsunami, and i still can't forget about what happened in 2004, if i am not wrong there is an island that more than half of its population died.

But eniwei I was a bit surprised when the navy convert KRI Semarang to hospital ship, and this new ship would be more specialized as hospital ship = more capable.

 

[striver44]

Because rather than full fledged hospital ship (specialized hospital ship), the hybrid LPD-hospital ship some time is more useful.
With LPD the navy can reach very remote and undeveloped island using LCU and/or helicopter, and can carry heavy equipment, ambulance, truck etc, during lombok earthquake albeit of its size and population lombok island lack of heavy equipment, iirc I saw the navy loaded heavy equipment (bego' from the engineering corps) to the LPD before they depart to lombok.
Now imagine some small island that most people don't even know the name, have small population, lack of infrastructure (which we have tons of them) got hit by natural disaster, they can't be reached by plane (no airstrip) even helicopters, ship can't dock because there is no pier etc, having this LPD-hospital is useful, many cards to play in different scenario. The LCU can be more usefull to provide transportation between the shore and ship rather than using dinghy boat / rhib (which can be carried by hospital ship and most of our combat ship) and when using helicopter is impossible.
Yes it has reduced capacity and limited medical equipment compared to those full fledged hospital ship, but it has it own perks. Having something like smaller version of USNS mercy would be good but having this multirole LPD won't be hurt, and about the number of this LPD ship I will just trust the professional assessment from the navy. IMO.

Also there are many Islands in western coast in sumatra that have high risk of earthquake and tsunami, and i still can't forget about what happened in 2004, if i am not wrong there is an island that more than half of its population died.

But eniwei I was a bit surprised when the navy convert KRI Semarang to hospital ship, and this new ship would be more specialized as hospital ship = more capable.

IMO should've keep it separate, this LPD is small enough already for any room to be used other than troop transport.