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[Raduga]

this is from indonesia BPPT wind tunnel testing facility snapgram

wth are those !!! finalized form of PETIR ??

it's somewhat looks like the avibras AV-TM 300

 

[Kansel]

F15 with internal weapon bay and F18 with enclosed weapons pod still have large RCS, besides our pocket is not that deep to get extra features so F15 without the internal weapon bay would be more budget friendly.
F16 is way more budget friendly .

Afaik, F15SE got replaced with F15X program cause F15SE "gak laku laku".

Yeah viper is budget friendly but you know lah, our doctrine don't use single engine fighter as heavy fighter and or air superiority fighter, but what if we decided to take F15E but with same config as saudi or qatar F15?

But for now can we get P8 and Awacs first? Cause it does really matter for us on patrol mission tinggal bawa dummy missile di P8 juga dah ketar ketir tuh maling ikan

Rabu 30 Oktober 2019, 16:28 WIB

Aklamasi, Komisi III DPR Setuju Komjen Idham Azis Jadi Kapolri
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Komjen Idham Azis disetujui sebagai Kapolri/Foto: Lamhot Aritonang
Jakarta - Komisi III DPR menyetujui Komjen Idham Azis menjadi Kapolri. Keputusan ini diambil secara aklamasi.

"Semua fraksi berkesimpulan bahwa tidak perlu membuat pandangan fraksi nmun keputusan melalui kapoksi, yaitu aklamasi. Aklamasi untuk menyetujui Komjen Idham Azis sebagai Kapolri," kata Ketua Komisi III DPR Herman Hery di ruang Komisi III, Senayan, Jakarta, Rabu (30/10/2019).

Keputusan persetujuan Komjen Idham Azis sebagai Kapolri akan disampiakan ke pimpinan DPR. Rencananya paripurna hasil uji kepatutan dan kelayakan calon Kapolri digelar besok.

"Sore ini kami langsung bersurat kepada pimpinan DPR untuk dibawa ke paripurna besok," kata Herman.

Komjen Idham dalam paparan punya tujuh program prioritas yang akan dieksekusi jika diberi tugas sebagai Kapolri. Tujuh program prioritas itu meliputi pengembangan SDM hingga penataan kelembagaan.

Baca juga: Calon Kapolri Komjen Idham Teken Pakta Integritas, Kutip Kata Bijak Habibie



Usai fit and proper test, Komjen Idham langsung meneken pakta integritas. Komjen Idham juga mengutip kata bijak dari BJ Habibie.

"Kepada Tuhan saya tidak akan bertanya mengapa, kenapa dan bagaimana. Namun jika hamba diperkenankan mengajukan satu permohonan, maka berilah hamba petunjuk serta kekuatan untuk mengambil jalan yang benar sesuai dengan kehendak-Mu," kata Komjen Idham disambut riuh tepuk tangan di ruang Komisi III DPR.

 

[Gundala]

F15 with internal weapon bay and F18 with enclosed weapons pod still have large RCS, besides our pocket is not that deep to get extra features so F15 without the internal weapon bay would be more budget friendly.
F16 is way more budget friendly .

So true. At this time being the purchase plane for F16 is just right, we will have more to gain. To name a few: Our expertise with F16 specially with the latest Falcon STAR program is not going to be wasted, logistic wise we already have couple class A airfield base for F16 (Iswahjudi & Pekanbaru) with posibility of 2 more (Pontianak & Kupang) which can be very helpful in terms of repair and resupply. It might (or not hehe) benefit tech transfer of IFX. Offset can also abit easier since Lockheed Martin have more then 100+ potential order of F16, perhaps we can get our hands on it like building flaps or other air frame components like we did before.

I just hope we dont "forget" to get CFT to extent the range and enough additional budget for Amraam/JHMCS II

 

[Kansel]

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[NEKONEKO]

this is from indonesia BPPT wind tunnel testing facility snapgram
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wth are those !!! finalized form of PETIR ??

it's somewhat looks like the avibras AV-TM 300

Rudal jelajah 'ringan', literally: light cruise missile (I assume its a short range cruise missile). Maybe we should call it rudal jelajah jarak dekat, lebih pas.
Perusak kawal rudal, literally: guided missile destroyer (actually light frigate).
Terbiasa dengan istilah dalam bahasa inggris, jadi agak gimana pas pake bahasa indonesia.
Eniwei, IIRC there is news about TOT from avibras a while back.

For our IFX bitching betty will be using Bahasa Indonesia, korean or english?
'weapon unlocked'= senjata terbuka
'hydraulic system failure' = sistem hidrolik gagal
'check for engine fire' = periksa api dimesin
'pull up' = naik
'caution, terrain!' = peringatan medan!
'nose too high' = hidung terlalu tinggi

I just hope we dont "forget" to get CFT to extent the range

Maybe we should consider the CFT with aerial refueling probe (F21), so in the future all our fighter use probe-and-drogue system and we buy air tanker with hose-drogue pod only. Rip our older f16 that requires flying boom.

 

[Kansel]

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F35A getting cheaper time to time maybe a good solution if SU-35 still have no deal till end of the year? This fighter will be the next "pesawat sejuta umat" so im not worrying about its maintenance & spare part avaibility only in operational cost but LM promise to drastically decrease its operational tho

 

[Nike]

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F35A getting cheaper time to time maybe a good solution if SU-35 still have no deal till end of the year? This fighter will be the next "pesawat sejuta umat" so im not worrying about its maintenance & spare part avaibility only in operational cost but LM promise to drastically decrease its operational tho

US had put F35 infrastructure in place, including everything thats why their recent order seems much cheaper than their competitor but its actually not.

 

[HellFireIndo]

Rudal jelajah 'ringan', literally: light cruise missile (I assume its a short range cruise missile). Maybe we should call it rudal jelajah jarak dekat, lebih pas.
Perusak kawal rudal, literally: guided missile destroyer (actually light frigate).
Terbiasa dengan istilah dalam bahasa inggris, jadi agak gimana pas pake bahasa indonesia.
Eniwei, IIRC there is news about TOT from avibras a while back.

For our IFX bitching betty will be using Bahasa Indonesia, korean or english?
'weapon unlocked'= senjata terbuka
'hydraulic system failure' = sistem hidrolik gagal
'check for engine fire' = periksa api dimesin
'pull up' = naik
'caution, terrain!' = peringatan medan!
'nose too high' = hidung terlalu tinggi


Maybe we should consider the CFT with aerial refueling probe (F21), so in the future all our fighter use probe-and-drogue system and we buy air tanker with hose-drogue pod only. Rip our older f16 that requires flying boom.

Knowing the Air Force, most probably it would be both English and B.Indonesia, but ofc i would be very interesting to have a B.Indonesia interface and voice effect, also if it could be the case with IFX, i wonder if the Falcons and Flankers could adopt it too.

 

[Raduga]

Rudal jelajah 'ringan', literally: light cruise missile (I assume its a short range cruise missile). Maybe we should call it rudal jelajah jarak dekat, lebih pas.
Perusak kawal rudal, literally: guided missile destroyer (actually light frigate).
Terbiasa dengan istilah dalam bahasa inggris, jadi agak gimana pas pake bahasa indonesia.
Eniwei, IIRC there is news about TOT from avibras a while back.

For our IFX bitching betty will be using Bahasa Indonesia, korean or english?
'weapon unlocked'= senjata terbuka
'hydraulic system failure' = sistem hidrolik gagal
'check for engine fire' = periksa api dimesin
'pull up' = naik
'caution, terrain!' = peringatan medan!
'nose too high' = hidung terlalu tinggi


Maybe we should consider the CFT with aerial refueling probe (F21), so in the future all our fighter use probe-and-drogue system and we buy air tanker with hose-drogue pod only. Rip our older f16 that requires flying boom.

nose could also be "moncong"

as for PKR perusak kawal rudal , i think it is actually "Missile Destroyer ESCORT (as kawal)" well destroyer escort = frigate

we had no destroyer to escort tbh lol .

 

[Kansel]

Rudal jelajah ringan? I thought it will be something named as "tactical cruise missile" maybe we'll use it on truck platform?

But yeah, it looks a lot with avtm 300. maybe we'll integrate it with our indigenous mlrs later and or our astros? Will it be vertical launched or no? And would be nice if we integrate it for fighter fleet.

Actually it looks more like tomahawk but with additional fin in the back

 

[Raduga]

Rudal jelajah ringan? I thought it will be something named as "tactical cruise missile" maybe we'll use it on truck platform?

But yeah, it looks a lot with avtm 300. maybe we'll integrate it with our indigenous mlrs later and or our astros? Will it be vertical launched or no? And would be nice if we integrate it for fighter fleet.

Actually it looks more like tomahawk but with additional fin in the back
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i really hope this would become a base platform for our indigenous antiship missile too.

but it could also be not even related to av-tm 300 , could be a completely new self made missile design , since i heard the "petir" missile would enter the last development stage in 2020 .

 

[Nike]

 

[Raduga]

Rudal jelajah ringan? I thought it will be something named as "tactical cruise missile" maybe we'll use it on truck platform?

But yeah, it looks a lot with avtm 300. maybe we'll integrate it with our indigenous mlrs later and or our astros? Will it be vertical launched or no? And would be nice if we integrate it for fighter fleet.

Actually it looks more like tomahawk but with additional fin in the back
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The latest information i got , this missile was completely new , and designed by PTIPK BPPT .

 

[Ruhnama]

The latest information i got , this missile was completely new , and designed by PTIPK BPPT .

What engine they used and who make seeker or guidance?

 

[Kansel]

The latest information i got , this missile was completely new , and designed by PTIPK BPPT .

So its something new? I have a feeling this cruise missile on truck/mlrs platform and petir cruise missile for our fighter