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Sorry, for other member or guest. I just only want to answer him, so i am using Indonesia for this case

Masih stuck di komposisi persentase transfer teknologi yang diberikan, ya Indonesia minta teknologi di pemandu, sistem software, warhead, nozzle dan komposisi bahan bakar literally kita minta semuanya

China hanya bersedia memberikan sebagian saja, pemandu, software dan komposisi bahan bakar masih belum mau ngasih. Awalnya mereka malah mau kita cuman kebagian produksi casing, warhead dan perakitan saja

Tapi itu sudah dibahas beberapa bulan lalu, up-date-nya sekarang belum ada lagi
Well I think Indonesia should have around 200 + Leopard Tanks and few Hundred medium weight Tanks
 
Well I think Indonesia should have around 200 + Leopard Tanks and few Hundred medium weight Tanks

For hundreds of medium tank.....just wait for our Indonesia-Turkey medium tank project first (2016 first prototype scheduled to be launched).......inshaALLAH.
 
For hundreds of medium tank.....just wait for our Indonesia-Turkey medium tank project first (2016 first prototype scheduled to be launched).......inshaALLAH.
Any shapes or concepts which came up I mean any conceptual pictures ?
 
Well I think Indonesia should have around 200 + Leopard Tanks and few Hundred medium weight Tanks

Army Chief Marshall, once has giving presentation before House of Representative (DPR), he stated Indonesia at least need around 400 unit Leopard 2 tank, and he giving compromise to people who against Leopard/MBT acquisition programme to request Medium Tank from local companies in which right now still in development phase. I have giving article before if Indonesia looking some Marder Revolution armed with 105 mm cannon or 120 mm cannon in large numbers to attain the target number we needed for Medium Tank programme.
 
Army Chief Marshall, once has giving presentation before House of Representative (DPR), he stated Indonesia at least need around 400 unit Leopard 2 tank, and he giving compromise to people who against Leopard/MBT acquisition programme to request Medium Tank from local companies in which right now still in development phase. I have giving article before if Indonesia looking some Marder Revolution armed with 105 mm cannon or 120 mm cannon in large numbers to attain the target number we needed for Medium Tank programme.
400 well that is more than good Man you seriously need to start focusing on Air Force now
 
What kind of cruise missiles does Indonesia have or is planning to acquire?

Thanks.
 
What kind of cruise missiles does Indonesia have or is planning to acquire?

Thanks.

If we acquire Kilo class or Amur class in future as has been stated in several article, automatically we will looking for sub-launched Klub-K missile from Russia. The current inventory is just consist of AShM (like C-705, C-802, Exocet, Harpoon, and P-800 Onyx) and ground attack missile like Maverick, Kh-31P, Kh-29T and Kh-59ME.
 
TNI says no need for aircraft carrier
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | National | Wed, May 21 2014, 6:28 AM

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Indonesian Military (TNI) chief Gen. Moeldoko said the country had no intention of procuring an aircraft carrier to strengthen its primary defense system.

“An aircraft carrier is inappropriate for the Indonesian Military’s doctrine,” Moeldoko said as quoted by tempo.co on Monday.

He added that an aircraft carrier was unnecessary as the country had thousands of islands, from Aceh to Papua, that could accommodate the Air Force’s aircraft.

Navy chief of staff Adm. Marsetio explained that the Navy would act in accordance with Indonesia’s Green Water doctrine, which stipulates that its naval forces should not enter international waters. “Only countries with a Blue Water doctrine need aircraft carriers,” Marsetio said.

He said countries with a Blue Water doctrine tended to be aggressors that threatened other countries, adding that Indonesia was a peaceful country that considered its territorial sovereignty of paramount importance.

Rising tensions in Southeast Asian waters have underlined Indonesia’s Green Water policy, with Moeldoko explaining that the country would most likely adjust its personnel numbers in Natuna Islands, Riau Islands and at Datuk Cape in West Kalimantan.

Unlike Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei Darussalam and Malaysia, which have become embroiled in sovereignty issues with China over the South China Sea, Indonesia has remained an observer.

“We will monitor the South China Sea to gauge developments from time to time,” Moeldoko said as quoted by tribunnews.com on Monday.

TNI says no need for aircraft carrier | The Jakarta Post
 
TNI says no need for aircraft carrier
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | National | Wed, May 21 2014, 6:28 AM

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Indonesian Military (TNI) chief Gen. Moeldoko said the country had no intention of procuring an aircraft carrier to strengthen its primary defense system.

“An aircraft carrier is inappropriate for the Indonesian Military’s doctrine,” Moeldoko said as quoted by tempo.co on Monday.

He added that an aircraft carrier was unnecessary as the country had thousands of islands, from Aceh to Papua, that could accommodate the Air Force’s aircraft.

Navy chief of staff Adm. Marsetio explained that the Navy would act in accordance with Indonesia’s Green Water doctrine, which stipulates that its naval forces should not enter international waters. “Only countries with a Blue Water doctrine need aircraft carriers,” Marsetio said.

He said countries with a Blue Water doctrine tended to be aggressors that threatened other countries, adding that Indonesia was a peaceful country that considered its territorial sovereignty of paramount importance.

Rising tensions in Southeast Asian waters have underlined Indonesia’s Green Water policy, with Moeldoko explaining that the country would most likely adjust its personnel numbers in Natuna Islands, Riau Islands and at Datuk Cape in West Kalimantan.

Unlike Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei Darussalam and Malaysia, which have become embroiled in sovereignty issues with China over the South China Sea, Indonesia has remained an observer.

“We will monitor the South China Sea to gauge developments from time to time,” Moeldoko said as quoted by tribunnews.com on Monday.

TNI says no need for aircraft carrier | The Jakarta Post
Air Craft carrier who even thought of it in first place instead of AC you should just buy more Frigates and Corvettes and Fighter Jets and if at most needed something produce some LPD
 
Indonesian president to visit PHL
By MICHAELA DEL CALLARMay 20, 2014 8:46pm

Weeks before he steps down from office, Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono will be in the country for a two-day state visit aimed at strengthening political, defense, security and trade cooperation with the Philippines.

Yudhoyono’s visit came at a time when Manila and Jakarta have resolved a maritime dispute in the Philippines’ southern waters that overlap with Indonesia’s territorial boundary.

Upon the invitation of President Benigno Aquino III, Yudhoyono will be in the country from May 22 to 23 for his first ever state visit since he became Indonesia’s President for two consecutive terms in 2004 and 2009.

The Indonesian leader’s visit also coincides with his attendance to the World Economic Forum on East Asia (WEF-EA) that will be hosted by Manila on May 22.

In that forum, Yudhoyono will be conferred with the Global Statesmanship Award, and witness the official turn over to Indonesia of the hosting of the 24th WEF-EA in 2015.

At their bilateral meeting on May 23, Aquino and Yudhoyono will discuss matters of mutual concern, including political, defense and border, maritime, economic and socio-cultural cooperation, said Foreign Affairs spokesman Charles Jose on Tuesday.

Yudhoyono will also be conferred with the Order of Sikatuna with rank of Raja — the highest award conferred on individuals and heads of state — during the state dinner to be hosted in his honor.

Indonesia is among the Philippines’ major trading partners, ranking 13th in 2013, with a total trade of $ 3.512 billion. It also hosts nearly 10,000 Filipino workers and residents.

After 20 years of negotiations, the Philippines and Indonesia are set to sign an agreement on the delimitation of their overlapping boundaries in the Mindanao Sea and Celebes Sea.

“It will be signed the soonest possible time,” Jose told reporters at a press briefing.

The conclusion of the talks that began in 1994, is a testament to the two countries’ “friendship, patience, goodwill and commitment... to peacefully address maritime issues,” the Department of Foreign Affairs said.

The Philippines is also embroiled in long-running conflicts in another disputed body of water – the South China Sea – where it is locked in decades of territorial conflicts that involve China, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan.

China’s “indisputable” claim over nearly the entire waters has made it impossible for its smaller Asian neighbors with less military force to reach a settlement to the row that has sparked several military confrontations in the past.

Of all the claimants, the Philippines and Vietnam have the most number of confrontations with China.

Asked if the Philippines is open to bilateral talks with China and undertake negotiations similar to what it did with Indonesia, Jose said: “In the case of China, there’s no overlapping EEZ so there’s nothing to demarcate.”

“It’s very clear in the provisions of United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea where our EEZ starts and ends and where China’s EEZ starts and ends,” he added. —KBK, GMA News

Indonesian president to visit PHL | News | GMA News Online
 
Any shapes or concepts which came up I mean any conceptual pictures ?
Turkey and Indonesia to develop medium tank

Christopher F Foss, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
11 February 2014

An agreement to jointly develop a new medium tank was signed between the Indonesian and Turkish governments in Jakarta, Indonesia, on 6 February. Turkish company FNSS Savunma Sistemleri will work with local company PT Pindad to develop the tank for the Indonesian Army.

It is understood the new tank will be of a conventional design, fitted with a turret armed with a 105 mm rifled gun and 7.62 mm co-axial machine gun (MG) coupled to a computerised fire control system. For ease of deployment in Indonesia it is expected to have a combat weight of about 25 tonnes.

FNSS has extensive experience in the design, development, and production of wheeled and tracked armoured fighting vehicles (AFVs), with the latter including the Armoured Combat Vehicle (ACV) family of vehicles, which have been built in significant numbers for the home and export markets.

Source : Turkey and Indonesia to develop medium tank - IHS Jane's 360

Source from The Ministry of Defense :
PT Pindad and FNSS Turkey signed an agreement to develop a Medium Tank.
http://www.kemhan.go.id/kemhan/?pg=31&id=1316
 
TNI says no need for aircraft carrier
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | National | Wed, May 21 2014, 6:28 AM

ALin1504e.jpg


Indonesian Military (TNI) chief Gen. Moeldoko said the country had no intention of procuring an aircraft carrier to strengthen its primary defense system.

“An aircraft carrier is inappropriate for the Indonesian Military’s doctrine,” Moeldoko said as quoted by tempo.co on Monday.

He added that an aircraft carrier was unnecessary as the country had thousands of islands, from Aceh to Papua, that could accommodate the Air Force’s aircraft.

Navy chief of staff Adm. Marsetio explained that the Navy would act in accordance with Indonesia’s Green Water doctrine, which stipulates that its naval forces should not enter international waters. “Only countries with a Blue Water doctrine need aircraft carriers,” Marsetio said.

He said countries with a Blue Water doctrine tended to be aggressors that threatened other countries, adding that Indonesia was a peaceful country that considered its territorial sovereignty of paramount importance.

Rising tensions in Southeast Asian waters have underlined Indonesia’s Green Water policy, with Moeldoko explaining that the country would most likely adjust its personnel numbers in Natuna Islands, Riau Islands and at Datuk Cape in West Kalimantan.

Unlike Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei Darussalam and Malaysia, which have become embroiled in sovereignty issues with China over the South China Sea, Indonesia has remained an observer.

“We will monitor the South China Sea to gauge developments from time to time,” Moeldoko said as quoted by tribunnews.com on Monday.

TNI says no need for aircraft carrier | The Jakarta Post
He's right, LPD is enough for Indonesia operation ...
Vietnam should do the same, acquire some LPD ....

 
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Navy probing M’sian border violation

Yuliasri Perdani, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | World | Wed, May 21 2014, 12:30 PM

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The Navy is continuing investigations into the possibility that the installation by Malaysia of a light beacon on Tanjung Datuk Island is in violation of Indonesian sovereignty.

However, such investigations would have to take into account the unresolved issue of a 1970 bilateral treaty that the House of Representatives (DPR) did not ratify, an expert on international law has said.

Tanjung Datuk lies on the border between Paloh district in Sambas regency, West Kalimantan, and the Malaysian state of Sarawak. The area includes the sand ridge of Gosong Niger in the sea and Camar Wulan on the main island.

Navy chief of staff Adm. Marsetio confirmed to The Jakarta Post that the Pontianak Naval Base had received a report about the possible border violation from the Navigation District Office in Pontianak.

“We have sent a warship to the island, and today [Tuesday] we sent an aircraft to take aerial photographs of the area,” he said on the sidelines of a maritime leadership conference in Jakarta, on Tuesday.

The construction of the beacon on Tanjung Datuk follows a previous border spat with Malaysia over the Ambalat bloc in the Sulawesi Sea.

Marsetio explained that part of the reason why they were still gathering data was because each country had their own perception of the maritime borders. This made it unclear where exactly the border lay.

“[Our investigations] are not finished,” he said. The data will then be submitted to the Indonesian Military (TNI) chief Gen. Moeldoko and also to the Malaysian authorities.

Meanwhile, Navy chief spokesman Commodore Manahan Simorangkir confirmed on Tuesday that Malaysia had halted construction of the light beacon. “Our corvette reached the site and our officers asked them to halt the construction. On 19 May [Monday] at 6 p.m. they agreed to stop the work and go back to their side of the border,” he said in a telephone interview.

Separately, University of Indonesia (UI) international law expert Hikmahanto Juwana said that disagreements on the 1970 sea boundary treaty were at the root of the problem.

He told the Post that Malaysia assumed that the signing of the treaty meant that the borders were final. However, both the 1960 Presidential Letter 2826/HK/60 and Law No. 24/2000 on International Agreements stipulate that an international agreement must be ratified by the DPR to become valid.

“We still claim islands such as Tanjung Datuk because we assume that the treaty is not final because we have not ratified it,” he said.

Hikmahanto said that conflicting views on the subject existed within the government, making it difficult to decide on how to act next.

Spokesman for the Foreign Ministry, Michael Tene, said they were waiting for the TNI to finish verifying the information they received about the alleged violation before speaking to the Malaysian authorities.

“We cannot make contact with Malaysia yet without verifying the information,” he said. (fss)

Navy probing M’sian border violation | The Jakarta Post
 
He's right, LPD is enough for Indonesia operation ...
Vietnam should do the same, acquire some LPD ....
yes,you right soryu,we have a marines, the most suited us for our current conditions and to accomodate the marines is LPD t think :)
 
Vietnam and Indonesia beefs up air force-air defence cooperation
PANO - Wednesday, May 21, 2014, 21:58 (GMT+7)
PANO – The effective implementation of agreed measures would contribute to boosting the air force-air defence cooperation between Vietnam and Indonesia.

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Senior Lieutenant General Do Ba Ty (R) presenting a souvenir to Indonesian Air Chief Marshal Inda Bagus Putu Dunia
It was stated by Senior Lieutenant General Do Ba Ty, Deputy Minister of National Defence at the reception to Air Chief Marshal Inda Bagus Putu Dunia, Chief of Staff of the Indonesian Air Force who is leading a delegation to visit Vietnam.

At the meeting on May 20th at the Vietnamese Defence Ministry’s Headquarters, the visiting Air Chief Marshal informed the host of the outcome of the talk with Vietnamese Air Defence-Air Force Service, focusing on the closer cooperation in the time to come.

Appreciating highly the results of the talk, General Ty suggested tightening the cooperation through exchanging delegations at all levels, sharing information, experience on safe flights, equipment repair, and coordinating in search and rescue at sea and professional training.

General Ty also confirmed that leaders from the Ministry of National Defence, the General Staff of the Vietnam People’s Army would create favourable conditions for the two air forces to boost their cooperative
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