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[pr1v4t33r]

Air force special forces, Paskhas conducting hostage rescue drill at Halim Perdanakusuma airport

Personel Sat Bravo 90 Paskhas TNI Angkatan Udara berhasil membebaskan sandera di Bandara Halim Perdanakusuma, Jakarta (28/4/2017). Aksi tersebut merupakan latihan yang bertujuan melatih kemampuan dalam melakukan penanggulangan keadaan darurat baik sisi keamanan maupun keselamatan di bandara.

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistani and Indonesian brothers together at UN Mission

 

[rondo.royal2]

selamat kalo temen temen yg baca menemukan keanehan di artikel tadi .. Yaitu di OEPS-27 atau IRST sebagai BVR ..apalagi buat rudal BVR.. Wong jangkauannya 50 km .. Sedangkan rudal BVR itu R77 dan R27 kan 70 km .. IRST itu untuk dogfight woy

Ada lagi .. ini yg nulis haryo adjie yg punya indomiliter..

www.indomiliter.com/perang-elektronika-itu-ibarat-ilmu-setan/

sesatnya yaitu
1. pengembangan unsur perang elekronik
(pernika) belum menjadi prioritas utama di lingkup
TNI.

2. IFF dan bms termasuk pernika atau EW

Begini mas haryo adjie ya.. kalo baca tulisan saya

1. Pkr itu sudah dilengkapi ECM .. 2 Sukhoi yg di upgrade itu juga bakal ada ECM nya .. Jammer pod/jamming pod/ECM pod ..itu sama aja ECM atau biasa orang nyebutnya jamming

2. EW itu .. ESM..ECM..ECCM

Sedangkan IFF dan BMS itu tidak termasuk ketiga diatas

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

Yuhuuu penambahan 1 LPD lagi.

Penampakan terakhir pembangunan KCR-60.

@IMF

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

selamat kalo temen temen yg baca menemukan keanehan di artikel tadi .. Yaitu di OEPS-27 atau IRST sebagai BVR ..apalagi buat rudal BVR.. Wong jangkauannya 50 km .. Sedangkan rudal BVR itu R77 dan R27 kan 70 km .. IRST itu untuk dogfight woy

Ada lagi .. ini yg nulis haryo adjie yg punya indomiliter..

www.indomiliter.com/perang-elektronika-itu-ibarat-ilmu-setan/

sesatnya yaitu
1. pengembangan unsur perang elekronik
(pernika) belum menjadi prioritas utama di lingkup
TNI.

2. IFF dan bms termasuk pernika atau EW

Begini mas haryo adjie ya.. kalo baca tulisan saya

1. Pkr itu sudah dilengkapi ECM .. 2 Sukhoi yg di upgrade itu juga bakal ada ECM nya .. Jammer pod/jamming pod/ECM pod ..itu sama aja ECM atau biasa orang nyebutnya jamming

2. EW itu .. ESM..ECM..ECCM

Sedangkan IFF dan BMS itu tidak termasuk ketiga diatas

Masbro, Pernika belum jadi prioritas di lingkupt TNI itu pernyataan dari Kadiskomlek TNI AU sendiri saat seminar mengenai pernika di BPPT hari Kamis kemarin - saya hadir dalam acara tersebut.
Tim Pernika AD juga membenarkan kondisi tersebut.

BMS dan IFF memang bukan alat atau sistem pernika tapi masuk dalam ruang lingkup pernika.
Mematikan transponder IFF seringkali jadi taktik AU Rusia saat melakukan perpindahan alutsista udara.
Mengenai BMS dalam dunia pernika juga dibahas oleh pihak Hariff dalam seminar tersebut, dari sisi keamanan data dan komunikasi dari serangan pernika lawan.

Pernika bukan bicara kemampuan menyerang saja tapi untuk melindungi, memastikan komunikasi radio, data pasukan tidak terganggu oleh lawan.

Saya bukan orang indomiliter tapi saya merespon karena hadir di acara tersebut.
Bila poin2 itu anda bilang sesat, jangan ke Indomiliter tapi langsung ke Kadiskomlek AU dan Hariff.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Yuhuuu penambahan 1 LPD lagi.

Indonesia to receive three new 120 m LSTs by 2018

Indonesian shipbuilder PT Daya Radar Utama has received a contract to construct three 120 m landing ship tank (LST) platforms for the Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut: TNI-AL), an official from the company confirmed with Jane's on 27 April.

The vessels, which will be used to transport vehicles such as the Leopard 2 main battle tanks (MBTs) operated by the Indonesian Army, is currently estimated for delivery by the end of 2018, said Frans Tedjakusuma, a business development manager at the shipyard.

A steel-cutting ceremony to mark the start of construction on all three vessels was held on 21 April at the company's facilities.

http://www.janes.com/article/69933/indonesia-to-receive-three-new-120-m-lsts-by-2018

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

 

[HannibalBarca]

For the future, Indonesia gonna produce our own fighter plane along with south korea on project KFX/IFX

KFX is delayed to 2025... Therefore if they begun working at that moment with everything going on well... You will get at least your first plane around 2033-2035... So what are you gonna do for those 16-18 years? And KFX is a 4.5 gen on paper... and in 2035 battlefield... a 4.5gen aircraft will be a liability...

 

[Mahakam]

Both Typhoon or Rafale are good to me, by the way is there any news of Klewang Class?

 

[Nike]

KFX is delayed to 2025... Therefore if they begun working at that moment with everything going on well... You will get at least your first plane around 2033-2035... So what are you gonna do for those 16-18 years? And KFX is a 4.5 gen on paper... and in 2035 battlefield... a 4.5gen aircraft will be a liability...

there is plan to induct F 35 in long term TNI AU master plan

 

[Star Bugs]

KFX is delayed to 2025... Therefore if they begun working at that moment with everything going on well... You will get at least your first plane around 2033-2035... So what are you gonna do for those 16-18 years? And KFX is a 4.5 gen on paper... and in 2035 battlefield... a 4.5gen aircraft will be a liability...

What fifth gen medium fighter would you suggest? Is Rafale that you suggested fifth gen?

 

[HannibalBarca]

What fifth gen medium fighter would you suggest? Is Rafale that you suggested fifth gen?

Rafale is not a fifth gen...
As of today only one 5th gen is available for few countries "F-35"... And Indonesia will mostly not have it.
So as for Today having a 4-4.5gen aircraft is important, and the rafale is doing the job well. ( since why funding a 4.5gen aircraft for a "maybe" 18 years later...when it's available today)

There is some 5th gen aircraft in Dev, like PAK or FC-31, But for Indo the only one "more" available to purchase inthe coming years with today diplomatic ties will be FC-31... since it's the only one, where ToT or licencing manufacturing of some sort could be available...

Anyway, Chosing a multi purpose 4-4.5gen platform as the Rafale is an interesting choice if it's made, better than jumping on multiple purchase, just for the sake of diversity... ANd you get to have a common ground platform with Malaysia ( cost down, for parts and repair and so on... )

PS: KFX 4.5gen aircraft project is a 66% Korea ownership... Indonesia only have 20% and without critical tech... so in the End it couldn't be yours... even inland manufacturing will be mostly a no or limited...

In the End if Indo want somthing to her with interesting ToT or manufacturing , she has better choice to invest on the TFX than the KFX(

 

[initial_d_mk2]

Rafale is not a fifth gen...
As of today only one 5th gen is available for few countries "F-35"... And Indonesia will mostly not have it.
So as for Today having a 4-4.5gen aircraft is important, and the rafale is doing the job well. ( since why funding a 4.5gen aircraft for a "maybe" 18 years later...when it's available today)

There is some 5th gen aircraft in Dev, like PAK or FC-31, But for Indo the only one "more" available to purchase inthe coming years with today diplomatic ties will be FC-31... since it's the only one, where ToT or licencing manufacturing of some sort could be available...

Anyway, Chosing a multi purpose 4-4.5gen platform as the Rafale is an interesting choice if it's made, better than jumping on multiple purchase, just for the sake of diversity... ANd you get to have a common ground platform with Malaysia ( cost down, for parts and repair and so on... )

PS: KFX 4.5gen aircraft project is a 66% Korea ownership... Indonesia only have 20% and without critical tech... so in the End it couldn't be yours... even inland manufacturing will be mostly a no or limited...

In the End if Indo want somthing to her with interesting ToT or manufacturing , she has better choice to invest on the TFX than the KFX(

Why would you think that Indonesia mostly not gonna have F-35!?

 

[HannibalBarca]

Why would you think that Indonesia mostly not gonna have F-35!?

Because even the "best" allies of the US ( outside of NATO) will not have it... at least int hose coming fexw decades...
So if Indonesia want a F-35... She gonna wait a long long time...or even never...
So you have better chance to fund a 5th gen program and succeed in it than acquiring the F-35...

Or War come around... but that's a different future...that no one can be sure about...

 

[Boss Dragun]

So you have better chance to fund a 5th gen program and succeed in it than acquiring the F-35...

that's EXACTLY why we're investing in KFX/IFX program. sending our scientist to korea to learn about their core project as agreeable by the korean side. what we're taking back home isn't their jet fighters only. but the knowledge to make our own. this will be the basis to make our own future jets so we don't really need to depend on others except for diplomacy's sake.