Indonesia-China hold defense consultation meeting

[scobydoo]

Beijing (ANTARA News) - Indonesia and China have again staged a consultation meeting to improve the two countries` relations and cooperation in the field of security and defense.

The Indonesia-China Defense Consultation Forum at the People`s Liberation Army (PLA) Headquarters was the fifth since 2007.

Indonesia`s delegation was led by deputy minister of defense Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin while the Chinese delegation was led by PLA`s deputy chief of general staff Lieutenant General Qi Jian`guo.

The meeting discussed development of the defense cooperation agreement made by the two countries in the framework of strategic partnership in April 2005.

Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin said that the meeting was initially scheduled on November 2012 but it was then postponed due to a process of leadership change in that country in the month.

Meanwhile "we also had an important agenda in that month namely a leadership meeting which had only ended yesterday," he added.

After the Defense Consultation Forum was agreed Indonesia and China had conducted various cooperation activities such as a joint exercise between the Indonesian army and the PLA special force, exchange of officers of the two countries` military education institutions including the University of Defense.

Not only that Indonesia and China have also cooperated in Sukhoi fighter pilot training, the purchase of military hardware and in 2011 in the defense industry for the joint production of C-705 missile.

China has also offered cooperation in Mandarin language training for Indonesian army officers. The meeting was now still underway behind closed doors.

Antara News : Indonesia-China hold defense consultation meeting

Its good for Indonesia to keep everything balance

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Indonesian National Army Purchase Missile C-705 and KS-1A from China.

Surface-to surface missile C-705 can reach to 135 kilometers
Indonesian National Army Navy will buy C705 missiles from China in 2013 ahead. "missiles has very high accuracy," said the Head of Department of Information TNI AL, Rear-Admiral Profit Suropati, Sunday 5 August 2012.

Ministry of Defence said the purchase of this missile has been said in President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono's visit to China, last March 2012. This article then follow up with a meeting titled "First Defense Industry Cooperation Meeting RI-China", the end of last July 2012.

The head of the Ministry of Defence Centre for Public Communication, Brigadier General Hartind Asrin, said missile with 135 kilometer mileage has been tested twice in the Sunda Straits since 2011. "Chavez has proven effective when tested," said Hartind.

On 30 August, Hartind added, China will provide the first stage proposal that contains the technical specifications. New, in September, both parties will determine the price and number of missiles purchased. If there is no obstacle, he said, the government will sign the purchase contract C075 missile at 1 March 2013.

TNI Navy has also tested missiles in the 2011 Russian original Yakhont ago. Missiles, said profit, in contrast with C705 missiles. "C705 has a reach of some of the Yakhont missiles," he said. For that reason, said profit, Yakhont suited for battle in the wide waters, while the C705 fit in the waters of the islands.

Vice-Chairman of Defense Commission Tubagus Hasanuddin said the purchase was approved by the C705 missile House of Representatives. "It is allocated from the Budget of Income and Expenses of the Year 2010," said Hasanuddin.

Asian Defense: Indonesian National Army Purchase Missile C-705 and KS-1A from China Fast Materialises

 

[explorer9]

Indonesia, a soon to be a trillion $ economy spends very less proportion of its GDP on defense. Your Navy seems Ok to me but the Air Force looks to me in Dilapidated condition. Indonesia has money to spend in R&D and joint projects. A big country with huge population and decent surplus must strengthen its armed forces. update us with ongoing and future procurement schedule of Indonesian Armed Forces.

 

[scobydoo]

Indonesia, a soon to be a trillion $ economy spends very less proportion of its GDP on defense. Your Navy seems Ok to me but the Air Force looks to me in Dilapidated condition. Indonesia has money to spend in R&D and joint projects. A big country with huge population and decent surplus must strengthen its armed forces. update us with ongoing and future procurement schedule of Indonesian Armed Forces.

I think Indonesian government doesn't want to start an arm race in this peaceful SouthEastAsia region. Thats why Indonesia's military spending never reach 1% of our GDP. If we spend much money on military, our neighbours will scream like hell.

Maybe Reashot or Nufix can start a new thread with some Indonesian member help to give update with ongoing and future. procurement.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Indonesia, a soon to be a trillion $ economy spends very less proportion of its GDP on defense. Your Navy seems Ok to me but the Air Force looks to me in Dilapidated condition. Indonesia has money to spend in R&D and joint projects. A big country with huge population and decent surplus must strengthen its armed forces. update us with ongoing and future procurement schedule of Indonesian Armed Forces.

Indonesian air forces to get 102 new planes this year
Souce:Xinhua Publish By Thomas Whittle Updated 03/01/2013 12:23 am in World /



JAKARTA, Jan. 2 — Indonesian air forces commander Air Marshall Ida Bagus Putu Dunia said on Wednesday that 102 new planes of various types would join the air forces’ fleet this year.

Speaking in a ceremony held at the air forces’ headquarters in Cilangkap, East Jakarta, Putu Dunia said that the air forces is one of the country’s essential components highly expected to boost up ‘bargaining power’ in settling disputes with other country.

“As one of the country’s defense components, Indonesian air forces continues to develop accordingly with national strategic developments,” he said in his remarks in the ceremony.

He said that the new planes ready to serve the air forces’ fleet this year consist of F-16 fighter jets, T-50 Super Tucano anti insurgent planes, CN-295 and C130 Hercules military cargo planes, Cougar Helicopters, KT-1 Woongbi trainer planes and Boeing 737-500.

Besides new planes, the air forces is also expecting deliveries of new radars to enforce its early detection warning system.

The Indonesian air forces commander said that addition of new planes in its fleet referred to the air forces’ 2010-2014 strategic development plans.

Indonesia has allocated 16.7 billion U.S. dollars by 2015 to finance procurements of new armaments and military vehicles to modernize its military forces.

 

[xuxu1457]

Indonesia-China trade in 2012 attacked 66.2billion$, while only 8.95billion$ in 2005. Good movement

 

[Protocol man]

Indonesia I believe is the 4th largest country by population.
It should have a much bigger voice in international affairs than it currently has.
Hopefully the CPC can prioritise relations with Indonesia!

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Indonesia - China Discuss Drone Technology and Electronic Defence Systems

Beijing (ANTARA Bengkulu) - Indonesia and the People's Republic of China agree to expand defense cooperation to improve the professionalism of the armed forces of both countries, better relationships and both sides will uphold the security of the area, particularly in Asia.

The same subject matter in the Forum of the 5th Indonesia-China Defense Consultation in Beijing on Thursday. In the forum, the Indonesian delegation led by Deputy Minister of Defense Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin while the Chinese delegation led by Vice Chief of General Staff Lieutenant General Armed Forces China Qi Jian Guo.

In official documents received by Antara in Beijing, in a closed meeting that discussed and defense cooperation has been established and will be done in the future by both countries.

Since the Consultation Forum Indonesia-China Defense formed in 2007 various similar work has been done between the two countries, such as education officers, training with a dedicated team of both countries, Sukhoi fighter pilot training TNI-Air Force, working with industry and the purchase of a number of defense weapon systems.


For education and exchange of personnel, since 1967 Indonesia has sent 107 military personnel to study in China. Currently 12 people are listed as Indonesian military officer studying in China, so collected from the documents.

While China to date has only sent eight men from their armed forces.

For training, Indonesia and China had twice called joint training between military's Special Forces Commando Army Special Forces Armed Forces with China (People's Liberation Army / PLA) with the codename "Sharp Knife".

Specific cooperation between troops in the handling of terrorism will continue to be enhanced and expanded. Training with non-traditional threats such as natural disaster will be , so cited in the document.

Whereas in the field of defense industry between the two countries have agreed to jointly produce the C-705 missile. Until now Indonesia and China are discussing the implementation of technology in the manufacturing of the C-705 missiles.

In addition to the C-705. Indonesia and China will further discuss transfer of Drone technology, as well as electronic defense system

Consultation Forum of the 5th Indonesia-China defense, which runs through Thursday afternoon also discussed and in particular the development of regional security situation in the Asia-Pacific region, including the East China Sea and South China Sea.

"Sharp Knife" videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VImSsLRDsQI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwwrnOCiCaA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwS0ZRB3wPg

Indonesia-china perluas kerja sama pertahanan - ANTARA News Bengkulu


Indonesia To Build Unmanned Drone Squadron In 2013

"Wulung" Drone.
Indonesia's Minister for Research and Technology, Gusti Muhammad Hatta said the country will build an unmanned drone squadron in 2013 for special missions and national defence, Indonesia's Antara reported.

The development of the unmanned drone squadron is one of the main objectives of The National Technology Awakening Day, which will be held this year. In addition, rockets and satellites will be developed as part of The National Technology Awakening Day.

The unmanned drone squadron will also be able to create artificial rain, said the Minister.

"The unmanned drone squadron will be able to create artificial rain. It can be used to monitor active and dormant volcanoes, and illegal fishing and logging activities," said the minister on Thursday.

The Ministry will work closely with the National Aeronautics and Space Institute (LAPAN) and the Agency for Assessment and Application of Technology (BPPT) to build the drone squadron.

"LAPAN has built one small drone, while BPPT has developed three classes of drones: small, medium and large," he said, adding that the defence ministry will provide funds to build the drone squadron.


The Research and Technology Ministry is also developing technologies to manufacture tanks.

"We have created panzers; now, we want to develop tanks," said the minister, adding that the ministry will also work closely with India to build satellites.

Asian Defense: Indonesia To Build Unmanned Drone Squadron In 2013

 

[Viet]

Indonesian air forces to get 102 new planes this year
Souce:Xinhua Publish By Thomas Whittle Updated 03/01/2013 12:23 am in World /

102 new planes this year? Wow, that´s a lot.
Hope Indonesia continues staying neutral, and playing some mediating roles in the SCS dispute.

Indonesia I believe is the 4th largest country by population.
It should have a much bigger voice in international affairs than it currently has.
Hopefully the CPC can prioritise relations with Indonesia!

Indonesia has the potential to play more actively on international theater. It is the political leadership which also wants to do so.

 

[scobydoo]

Indonesia To Build Unmanned Drone Squadron In 2013

Klo ada procurement baru bikin trit baru aja bro judulnya indonesian military update atau apalah terserah ente. Klo semua update dimasukin disini jadi kurang cocok dengan judulnya. Ntar ane bantu

 

[Fsjal]

I hope there is peace in the South China Sea.
Good to see Indonesia's neutral stance. Hope an agreement on the Spratly island dispute happens.

 

[explorer9]

Would it be possible that Indonesia , Malaysia and Brunei get merged in one country or form a union type structure where military , currency and foreign policy will be common.

 

[Luffy 500]

Indonesia itself is a regional power and being so, china would do well if it can win it over as an ally. Great powers need strong regional players to project power & establish domianance. just like US has Japans, UK, Israel, Germany china also needs strong countries by her side to surpass US. Malaysia, Indonesia, PAK, Egypt has the potential to full fill such roles. Indoneshia-chinese collaboration is much needed for a stable Asia.

Would it be possible that Indonesia , Malaysia and Brunei get merged in one country or form a union type structure where military , currency and foreign policy will be common.

That would be great. At least a EU like scenerio but there is thing called nationalism. They have ASEAN btw.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Would it be possible that Indonesia , Malaysia and Brunei get merged in one country or form a union type structure where military , currency and foreign policy will be common.

You mean Malphilindo No chance of that ever going to happen... EVER!

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Indonesia-China prepares joint naval exercises.

Saturday, January 12, 2013 23:52 PM | 2241 Views

RI Vice minister of Defense Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin (left), Commander of the Shanghai Maritime Garrison Li Yu Jie (right), Commander Liu Jian Feng Captain of the Tongling 542 Frigate (far right).


Shanghai (ANTARA News) - Indonesia and China plans for naval exercises with the two countries, as part of expanding forms of military cooperation and defense agreed by both parties.

"So far, Indonesia and China have had a joint exercise between Special Forces of the Army Special Forces with China," said Deputy Defense Minister Sjafrie his meeting with Garrison Commander Maritime China in Shanghai, Captain Li Yu Jie in Shanghai on Saturday.

Looking ahead, he added, will be training with special forces of both countries of the three armed services, whether by land, sea or air.

"In addition, we have agreed to conduct joint naval exercises between the two countries in 2013. Our agendas is to move forward in the improvement and expansion of defense cooperation and military," said Sjafrie.

He considered the preparation and readiness of plans joint exercises from each party, continues to increase and run well.

Garrison Commander Naval Maritime China in Shanghai Captain Li Yu Jie said maritime relations between Indonesia and China have had a long history with the arrival of Commander Cheng Ho or Zheng He to Indonesia in exploration during 1405 to 1433.

"It shows that maritime cooperation, the main naval both countries have started long ago., And is expected to be improved from time to time," he said.

Currently Navy China and Indonesia amid mature "navy to navy talk" that had been prepared the terms of reference on July 26, 2012.

Besides, it has also established a working group that will be the reference implementation of the "navy to navy talk" later.

The formation mechanism of "navy to navy talk" has been announced by the chair of the Defense and Security Consultation at its fifth meeting on Thursday (10/1).

Further terms of reference for Navy Cooperation Meeting will be signed at the meeting "navy to navy talk" first in February.

Forum discussions between the navies of both countries, it is a part of defense cooperation could be developed as a regular meeting every two years to discuss maritime security issues.

In addition, "navy to navy talk" is also a development of a more obvious cooperation in defense and maritime security.
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