India's Muslims, Christians fight for burial rights

[Nahraf]

As for the issue..a lot of Christians in the west also cremate their dead. There is just no space in the cities pretty much anywhere in the world.

The vast majority of Christians still bury their loved ones. It may take another generation for Muslims to think about alternative to burial.

http://www.vagabondish.com/indian-restaurant-offers-a-deadly-combo-of-dining-and-ambience/

Indian Restaurant Offers a Deadly Combo of Dining and Ambience
by Shabana

At the New Lucky restaurant in Ahmedabad, India, the soft, buttery rolls are to die for. Don’t say that too loud however, seeing as the setting includes some quaint tables, rusty…

At the New Lucky restaurant in Ahmedabad, India, the soft, buttery rolls are to die for. Don’t say that too loud however, seeing as the setting includes some quaint tables, rusty chairs and a few dozen graves.

The owner Krsihan Kutti Nair who built the restaurant that’s spread out over a centuries old Muslim cemetery, doesn’t know who the patrons in the basement floor are, but claims their presence has been great for business. And he’s right. Business is brisk at the bustling restaurant where the graves are scattered erratically.

The plan wasn’t to begin a restaurant right in the middle of a cemetery. In India, however, where death and life mix as smoothly as tandoori chicken and rum, and reincarnation theories are a permanent fixture of folklore and Bollywood movies, people aren’t as spooked by graveyards as Westerners are. Plus, in a country of a billion with space at a premium, graveyards are often used for commercial and even residential purposes. The constant flow of relatives, who visit graveyards to visit their dead kin, has meant that these macabre locations are actually great from a business point of view.

So when Nair’s partner K.H. Mohammed set up a tea stall outside this particular graveyard, and business quickly exploded, it proved logical to expand in the immediate vicinity – graves and all – until the compound included the entire cemetery.

The graves themselves, green in color and shin length in height are said to belong to the relatives of a 16th century Sufi saint whose tomb lies nearby.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

you sound so annoying. are you indian?

listen you sound tenfold more annoying and no i am not indian dont you see my flag what it says timbaktu? I am CANADIAN & am "damn" proud of it

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

listen you sound tenfold more annoying and no i am not indian dont you see my flag what it says timbaktu? I m a proud CANADIAN! am them proud of it

you appear to be very emotional and love colors. are you a girl?

 

[genmirajborgza786]

you appear to be very emotional and love colors. are you a girl?

well canada is full of colours different colours from all over the world its called multiculturalism and speaking of girl's well canada has some of the prettiest girls in the world http://www.forces.ca/media/_PHOTOS/whoweare/op_w_15.jpg

as for me i am surely not a girl & i can prove that to you
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Canadian_Soldier_C6_Machine_Gun.jpg

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

I don't know which is funnier

this

speaking of girl's well canada has some of the prettiest girls in the world http://www.forces.ca/media/_PHOTOS/whoweare/op_w_15.jpg

or this

as for me i am surely not a girl & i can prove that to you
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Canadian_Soldier_C6_Machine_Gun.jpg

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

What a load of smartest pile of sand you sticked your head in.

The already so called separated nation is doing an admirable job, That you are now expecting others to jump in the same well.

better sand than what is in the ganges river.

 

[Ras]

The vast majority of Christians still bury their loved ones. It may take another generation for Muslims to think about alternative to burial.

Indian Restaurant Offers a Deadly Combo of Dining and Ambience

Indian Restaurant Offers a Deadly Combo of Dining and Ambience
by Shabana

At the New Lucky restaurant in Ahmedabad, India, the soft, buttery rolls are to die for. Don’t say that too loud however, seeing as the setting includes some quaint tables, rusty…

At the New Lucky restaurant in Ahmedabad, India, the soft, buttery rolls are to die for. Don’t say that too loud however, seeing as the setting includes some quaint tables, rusty chairs and a few dozen graves.

The owner Krsihan Kutti Nair who built the restaurant that’s spread out over a centuries old Muslim cemetery, doesn’t know who the patrons in the basement floor are, but claims their presence has been great for business. And he’s right. Business is brisk at the bustling restaurant where the graves are scattered erratically.

The plan wasn’t to begin a restaurant right in the middle of a cemetery. In India, however, where death and life mix as smoothly as tandoori chicken and rum, and reincarnation theories are a permanent fixture of folklore and Bollywood movies, people aren’t as spooked by graveyards as Westerners are. Plus, in a country of a billion with space at a premium, graveyards are often used for commercial and even residential purposes. The constant flow of relatives, who visit graveyards to visit their dead kin, has meant that these macabre locations are actually great from a business point of view.

So when Nair’s partner K.H. Mohammed set up a tea stall outside this particular graveyard, and business quickly exploded, it proved logical to expand in the immediate vicinity – graves and all – until the compound included the entire cemetery.

The graves themselves, green in color and shin length in height are said to belong to the relatives of a 16th century Sufi saint whose tomb lies nearby.

Yes..but a large number are turning to cremation or using crypts where they stack bodies one on top of other. When there is no space there is no space.Nothing can be done.Human beings need to stop breeding so rapidly.

 

[Hutchroy]

With exploding Populations this problem is not restricted to India :

Letter No. 1 : Carrying coffins, looking for graves

Sir : The other day, I saw some people standing by the roadside in the city of Rawalpindi in total distress while carrying the coffin of their departed loved one. Upon asking the reason for not burying the deceased, they answered that almost all the graveyards in the city are full to capacity and they are unable to find a place to bury the dead. There can be many alternate solutions to this growing problem but a very pragmatic solution can be to make it mandatory for housing scheme developers to reserve a place for burials whenever they develop certain land for business purposes. This will be a waste of land for the developers with no monetary benefits attached, but it is a service we owe to the dead for a decent burial with respect and honour.

DR IRFAN ZAFAR
Islamabad

 

[fd24]

cremation is the better way rather than burial...

For you - thats fine. For me i would like to be buried in the earth. People have the right to their religious beliefs and that should always be respected - dead or alive...

 

[harpoon]

For you - thats fine. For me i would like to be buried in the earth. People have the right to their religious beliefs and that should always be respected - dead or alive...

Not practical when land is in such short supply.

 

[fd24]

^^^^^^
Elements that are present in the human body are present in lesser or greater quantity in the soil. Hence it is more scientific to bury a dead body, as it easily gets decomposed and mixed in the soil.
To cremate a dead body several trees have to be chopped, which reduces the greenery and harms the environment and the ecology. When dead bodies are buried, besides the trees being saved, the surrounding land becomes fertile and it improves the environment.
It is expensive to cremate a dead body when tons of woods have to be burnt per body.
Same land can be utilised for burying another body The wood used for cremating a dead body cannot be reutilised for cremating another dead body since it gets converted to ashes. The land used for burying a dead body can be reutilised for burying another body after a few years since the human body gets decomposed and mixed in the soil.

I still believe it is the right of each individual to have the right for ultimate respect for their choice of religion - be it Muslim Hindu or Christian - we owe this to mankind.

 

[livingdead]

^^^^^^


I still believe it is the right of each individual to have the right for ultimate respect for their choice of religion - be it Muslim Hindu or Christian - we owe this to mankind.

People should start saving for their funeral.

I want a mini pyramid where I should be buried, but I will make sure I leave some money for fullfillment of that wish.

BTW my grandmother was buried, because it was her wish. We have used our own land for it.

 

[harpoon]

^^^^^^
Elements that are present in the human body are present in lesser or greater quantity in the soil. Hence it is more scientific to bury a dead body, as it easily gets decomposed and mixed in the soil.
To cremate a dead body several trees have to be chopped, which reduces the greenery and harms the environment and the ecology. When dead bodies are buried, besides the trees being saved, the surrounding land becomes fertile and it improves the environment.
It is expensive to cremate a dead body when tons of woods have to be burnt per body.
Same land can be utilised for burying another body The wood used for cremating a dead body cannot be reutilised for cremating another dead body since it gets converted to ashes. The land used for burying a dead body can be reutilised for burying another body after a few years since the human body gets decomposed and mixed in the soil.

I still believe it is the right of each individual to have the right for ultimate respect for their choice of religion - be it Muslim Hindu or Christian - we owe this to mankind.

I think you still live in the 19th century. In my city Hindu dead get cremated in Electric furnaces, no wood is used in this process. All that is left behind is some ash..its clean and efficient.

The Christians are now building crypts in their funeral grounds, with dead bodies stacked on top of one another..there is no possibility of anything touching the ground. I heard of some Christians who wrote in their last will that they should cremated rather than buried.

Also I don't know much about Muslim burial rights..can another body be buried in the same area after sometime.

 

[IND151]

@ post 41: sir, some scientists have shown that burrying dead makes land polluted and not gmood for farming. so i think people of all religion should burn dead using electricity so it wont cost pollution. no offence mqpqmtmmpqjk

 

[harpoon]

wat abt a sea burial....

OBL style may be...