India’s Mars orbiter completes six years at the red planet, but where is the science?

[Itachi]

Humanity & science invests LOTS & LOTS of resources into things which have NO immediate material benefit.

And, in many cases, there is NO material benefit EVER.

The above will make sense to average civilized educated humans and MUST make sense to those with scientific bend of mind.

Others may please excuse.

Don't get me wrong....I am an avid space enthusiast and pro-space lobbyist (on PDF lol). But sinking costs on a Mars orbiter rather than making reusable rockets (like SpaceX did) is both a financial and engineering blunder.

Checkout this thread if you're pro-Space like me: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/space-warfare-technology-and-exploration.625858/

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

But sinking costs on a Mars orbiter rather than making reusable rockets (like SpaceX did) is both a financial and engineering blunder.

Why it needs to be either or?
ISRO is doing both. There is a reusable launch vehicle project based on SCRAMjets (it tested SCRAMjets in 2016 with net thrust).

In its budget of 1.8 billion dollars 70 million is a peanut. Besides, it earned those 70 millions many times over by offering commercial services over many years. Put it simple, it can afford to do what it did.

 

[Itachi]

Lets see, which is better, a sea of all non profitable companies and a sea of non profitable company and few unicorns? Why shoot unicorn because other are non profitable?

Hahaha.....I am not advocating for shooting the unicorn.....just that it be used to pull the carriage for useful cargo, not tin cans for PR.

Care to quote any mind boggling achievements of SUPARCO?

Well, SUPARCO is like a secretive NASA since to be honest, it has more military projects and of those, the declassified ones are the Abdali, Shaheen & Ghauri BM's (ballistic missiles) along with LEO & GEO sats. It is said that work was done on the Timur ICBM also...

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

Well, SUPARCO is like a secretive NASA since to be honest, it has more military projects and of those, the declassified ones are the Abdali, Shaheen & Ghauri BM's (ballistic missiles) along with LEO & GEO sats. It is said that work was done on the Timur ICBM also...

Its not secretive NASA then its more like DARPA. Then I doubt the budget is just 36 million dollars. There MUST be dark funds.

India has something similar too. Its called DRDO and its allied agencies and companies.

 

[Itachi]

Its not secretive NASA then its more like DARPA. Then I doubt the budget is just 36 million dollars. There MUST be dark funds.

India has something similar too. Its called DRDO and its allied agencies and companies.

Yea....those "dark funds" go to politicians

But things are looking better now and I'm patiently waiting for news from SUPARCO in the next 5 years probably seeing how it's slowly growing in the last 5 years after decades of being underfunded.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Lol so its exactly as the article says Indians only did it to be first. Up to the top brass they are all youtube commenters who love saying 'First'

MCC was not a collaborative effort and it turned out to just be a $70m camera. There's the difference when other space agencies are involved and not just Indians.

It's like asking is there any benefit from launching space missions. Those who have means and brains would do it, those who don't either of those would comment how irrelevant they are.

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

There is Indian NO MARS ROVER; these are just lies of a very fraudulent and pathetic deceptive country. All they have is some cheap labour indian coming up with CGI images and videos.

LOL! Forgot your tinfoil hat?

 

[ARMalik]

The only things India has done with success are Frauds and Lies. We are dealing with a very nasty and Fraudster country.

 

[jamahir]

ISRO plans to launch Mangalyaan 2 in 2024 with an upgraded orbiter, with a capacity of 100 kilograms for scientific instruments. The mission could also include a lander and a rover but it seems unlikely at the moment.

About the underlined, it hope it comes about. And it should be for preparation for subsequent manned missions. Things like identifying appropriate landing spots where access to water is easy so that a base can be set up.

On the other hand, Pakistan didn't waste their talent on 27 useless papers or $70M on a orbiter but rather invested the talent, time and money into some other useful projects.

Umm, what useful projects ?

But sinking costs on a Mars orbiter rather than making reusable rockets (like SpaceX did) is both a financial and engineering blunder.

That I agree. And I will also refer to the first section of this post.

Well, SUPARCO is like a secretive NASA since to be honest, it has more military projects and of those, the declassified ones are the Abdali, Shaheen & Ghauri BM's (ballistic missiles) along with LEO & GEO sats. It is said that work was done on the Timur ICBM also...

SUPARCO has limited itself for almost sixty years of existence in development of military rockets.

 

[jamahir]

There is Indian NO MARS ROVER; these are just lies of a very fraudulent and pathetic deceptive country. All they have is some cheap labour indian coming up with CGI images and videos.

Right, and the Americans didn't land on the moon.

 

[Microsoft]

It's like asking is there any benefit from launching space missions. Those who have means and brains would do it, those who don't either of those would comment how irrelevant they are.

The fact you conflate sending a camera and an exploratory mission shows how much you know.

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

The fact you conflate sending a camera and an exploratory mission shows how much you know.

And the one who compared mangalyaan to a camera knows everything. Yeah right!

 

[Microsoft]

And the one who compared mangalyaan to a camera knows everything. Yeah right!

27 papers and half about the engineering process have been published in six years. What else is it good for other than pictures? Please do tell.

 

[Microsoft]

You guys don't have that money to spend. Comprende !

Give me 1 good reason to spend $70m to send a camera to Mars when I can get the pictures for free from India. Just 1.

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

27 papers and half about the engineering process have been published in six years. What else is it good for other than pictures? Please do tell.

Nothing except letting us know that some seemingly educated person somewhere can compare it with a camera. I think you need to grow up before asking about usefulness and uselessness of anything. No wait, dont ask even after you grow up.