India's K-15 Ballasic Missile tasked to take out China's Aircraft Carrier 'Liaoning'

[Fledgingwings]

India has launched 104 satellite in orbit with a single rocket. So launch 10400 satellite with a single rocket and then talk.

If it is US aircraft carrier than what you say may be right but china certainly can not defend against missiles like brahmos or other US cruise missile.



Do you know that the glide vehicle which china tested couple of years ago releases glide vehicle from mother missile at a speed of mach 10 and it goes down to bellow 5 mach by the time it reaches target? On other hand we have a weapon which does not go beyond atmosphere and still travels at mach 7.5 till the target. Thisis the difference between chinese and indian missile technology.

An Aircraft Carrier is no sitting duck.its like having a target behind multiple walls.to take out that target you have to destroy each wall.Just wanted to point out a fact.

 

[Akasa]

Do you know that the glide vehicle which china tested couple of years ago releases glide vehicle from mother missile at a speed of mach 10 and it goes down to bellow 5 mach by the time it reaches target? On other hand we have a weapon which does not go beyond atmosphere and still travels at mach 7.5 till the target. Thisis the difference between chinese and indian missile technology.




Agreed. Sea skimming missiles have a greater accuracy because they have to target ship in two dimension and not in three like anti ship ballastic missile. That is why there are many antiship cruise missile but there is not proven ASBM exist today.However scientis always try to make it possible by developing various technology and it seems that they are not too far. Brahmos steep dive is all set to mimic the ASBM trajectory while hitting the ship. So we can incorporate this technology in ASBM like k15 variant discussed in article.

The advantage of sea-skimming missiles is not necessarily their accuracy but rather the inability of many anti-missile systems to engage targets at such low altitudes. It also limits the detection range and subsequently the reaction time of the defender by preventing OTH targeting. These qualities are not so readily applicable to high-flying missiles.

Successful ASBM targeting can achieved through a combination of OTH radars, forward-deployed sensors and satellite imaging, and terminal homing of the reentry vehicle.

 

[Surya 1]

The advantage of sea-skimming missiles is not necessarily their accuracy but rather the inability of many anti-missile systems to engage targets at such low altitudes. It also limits the detection range and subsequently the reaction time of the defender by preventing OTH targeting. These qualities are not so readily applicable to high-flying missiles.

Successful ASBM targeting can achieved through a combination of OTH radars, forward-deployed sensors and satellite imaging, and terminal homing of the reentry vehicle.

Ofcourse , low flying objects can not be detected from great distance but that does not mean that it is the only advantage they have. Researches are going on usig ASBM as weapon but there is no operational syatem in place today. Even after shouting for decades , china has nnot carried out even a single successful test of DF 21 till date . This shows that technology is difficult to master and require lot more building blocks of technologies than which is required in traditional cruise missiles.

An Aircraft Carrier is no sitting duck.its like having a target behind multiple walls.to take out that target you have to destroy each wall.Just wanted to point out a fact.

You are right but to protect AC, very sophesticated systems are required such as US agies system or LR SAM and BARAK 8 syatem or ew sytem in place on Vikramaditya which makes it undetectadle from any sensor from any distance.

 

[Akasa]

Ofcourse , low flying objects can not be detected from great distance but that does not mean that it is the only advantage they have.

Of course not, but this goes to show that true sea-skimming missiles have major advantages over quasi-ballistic missiles that use a depressed trajectory.

Researches are going on usig ASBM as weapon but there is no operational syatem in place today. Even after shouting for decades , china has nnot carried out even a single successful test of DF 21 till date . This shows that technology is difficult to master and require lot more building blocks of technologies than which is required in traditional cruise missiles.

There is evidence that the Chinese have tested the DF-21D; both the DF-21D and DF-26 are in active service. It seems that they have all the pieces in place as well, such as land-based OTH sites, the Yaogan-series observation satellites, and numerous UAVs to provide targeting data.

 

[Stuttgart001]

Ofcourse , low flying objects can not be detected from great distance but that does not mean that it is the only advantage they have. Researches are going on usig ASBM as weapon but there is no operational syatem in place today. Even after shouting for decades , china has nnot carried out even a single successful test of DF 21 till date . This shows that technology is difficult to master and require lot more building blocks of technologies than which is required in traditional cruise missiles.

What do you mean a successful test ?
Sinking the Vikramaditya ？

DF-21D has entered service a few years ago.
Before that, the media has reported the test of DF-21D, which was conducted in westnorth China by attacking a simulated carrier target.
This kind of missile could not be tested like a cruise missile using a small boat as a target .

i wonder how stupid you are .
Why do you think with your *** ?

 

[Surya 1]

What do you mean a successful test ?
Sinking the Vikramaditya ？

DF-21D has entered service a few years ago.
Before that, the media has reported the test of DF-21D, which was conducted in westnorth China by attacking a simulated carrier target.
This kind of missile could not be tested like a cruise missile using a small boat as a target .

i wonder how stupid you are .
Why do you think with your *** ?

Can't you complete your post without saying stupid to me?

Quote the source of successful test of DF 21 in carrier killer mode and quote the source of missile being operatiional.

Of course not, but this goes to show that true sea-skimming missiles have major advantages over quasi-ballistic missiles that use a depressed trajectory.



There is evidence that the Chinese have tested the DF-21D; both the DF-21D and DF-26 are in active service. It seems that they have all the pieces in place as well, such as land-based OTH sites, the Yaogan-series observation satellites, and numerous UAVs to provide targeting data.

If that is the case than china should stop developing ASBM and Focus on anti ship cruise missile. CHina has very long range cruise missile which they should convert in anti ship role but they are not doing that why?

Your country do not think the way you advocate.

Provide the source of DF 21 and 26 or any other chinese missile being in service.

 

[Stuttgart001]

Can't you complete your post without saying stupid to me?

Quote the source of successful test of DF 21 in carrier killer mode and quote the source of missile being operatiional.

i just cann't help talking the truth.

It's not my obligtion to search out the old news to educate you.
I am too tired to teach such idiot like you without even commonsense.


Be a joke and live in your dream.

 

[Oldman1]

I am sure you can notice the visual difference-

Also do consider the energy difference to launch an 80 ton vehicle into space (300+ km) to that of launching a 6 ton vehicle 40km in atmosphere-

Then come drag due to size- and other difference- I am quiet sure you would know-

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/scud_info/scud_info_refs/n41en156/dsp.htm

Defense Support Program's effectiveness was proven during the Persian Gulf conflict, when Defense Support Program satellites detected the launch of Iraqi Scud missiles and provided warning to civilian populations and coalition forces in Israel and Saudi Arabia.

 

[Surya 1]

i just cann't help talking the truth.

It's not my obligtion to search out the old news to educate you.
I am too tired to teach such idiot like you without even commonsense.


Be a joke and live in your dream.

You proved me right. Now keep bluffing and lying here and make tall claims for which you can not provide even a single referance.

 

[Stuttgart001]

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/scud_info/scud_info_refs/n41en156/dsp.htm
Defense Support Program's effectiveness was proven during the Persian Gulf conflict, when Defense Support Program satellites detected the launch of Iraqi Scud missiles and provided warning to civilian populations and coalition forces in Israel and Saudi Arabia.

You should know Scud is a outdated missile with a long preparation process of injecting liquid fuel .
Furthermore, Iraq is not a big country, that means there's not much room to hide the launch vehicle.

You proved me right. Now keep bluffing and lying here and make tall claims for which you can not provide even a single referance.

You do not even know how the ballistitic missile and cruise missile work .
How couldn't you be right ?
The idiot is always right, cause that is why he is idiot.

 

[Oldman1]

You should know Scud is a outdated missile with a long preparation process of injecting liquid fuel .
Furthermore, Iraq is not a big country, that means there's not much room to hide the launch vehicle.

Outdated missile or not, it does what most most ballistic missiles do. And whether Iraq is a big country or not, the satellites can detect the missile launch. Hence early warning. They are not designed to just find the launch vehicle. That would be great if there was such a thing. It be like designing a satellite that detects nuclear emissions from warheads in nuclear submarines or ballistic missiles on TELs.

 

[Stuttgart001]

Outdated missile or not, it does what most most ballistic missiles do. And whether Iraq is a big country or not, the satellites can detect the missile launch. Hence early warning. They are not designed to just find the launch vehicle. That would be great if there was such a thing. It be like designing a satellite that detects nuclear emissions from warheads in nuclear submarines or ballistic missiles on TELs.

OK.
Congratulations!
Although it's not a big deal for modern satellite to find a obstacle with size of ballsitic missile.

 

[Shajida Khan]

An Aircraft Carrier is no sitting duck.its like having a target behind multiple walls.to take out that target you have to destroy each wall.Just wanted to point out a fact.

That is why Anti Carrier Ballistic Missile, the warhead comes at a very high speed from the top and bypasses all the walls. BTW, China hasn't actually made any carrier group as of now.

 

[Oldman1]

OK.
Congratulations!
Although it's not a big deal for modern satellite to find a obstacle with size of ballsitic missile.

Detecting a heat signature is one thing since its automatic when launch. Scanning a large land mass for a ballistic missile is another. Even if its a huge missile. Thats a tough job.

 

[Akasa]

If that is the case than china should stop developing ASBM and Focus on anti ship cruise missile. CHina has very long range cruise missile which they should convert in anti ship role but they are not doing that why?

Your country do not think the way you advocate.

Provide the source of DF 21 and 26 or any other chinese missile being in service.

ASBMs provide a different set of advantages, including a much higher terminal velocity, greater range, and its exploitation of the limitations of ABM systems. The Chinese have, in fact, converted their CJ-10 cruise missile into the YJ-100 anti-ship missile with an 800 kilometer range.

The DF-21D and DF-26 have been spotted in service; you can Google the images yourself, not to mention that their appearance at official military "parades" pretty much guarantees that fact.