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India’s ‘Bad Deal’ for New Fighters Now Looks Alot Worse

The Irony. :lol:

Lol. Sorry English is not my first language it’s my third language. I mistook this word with bawling.

At least I gave you opportunity to have laugh :enjoy:

Ps : I will correct it in my previous message
 
Indian officials already asked for fresh update and they will ask everything.

There were no Pakistanis, trust me. Why India is asking for confirmation in this. Haven't Indians proved that the news was fake and after all French Ambassadors denied the same.

Moreover, did India think that buying 36 Rafale means India now owns French and Dassault? Those were Qataris pilots and that's all. Can't understand the unnecessary Indian insecurity despite the news being fake as per ambassador.
 
Come On Now! they have ignored my post about REDFLAG2008 and how SU-30MKI was compromised quoted Flight Global Magzine

Now i am connecting the dots...Pakistan Airchief Sohail Aman is 2016 or 2017 was asked how you gonna handle Su-30MKI of IAF in an interview he was very relaxed and in meaningful smile told reporter that we know what it can do we are able to handle it..

Pakistan Special Asset are from France Dassualt DA20 Falcon

just connect the dots REDFLAG2008 - 2016-2017 upgrade of special asset- (now Possible) Training of Flight instructors and ground crew in 2017 and then 27th Feb 2019.

This is what I like about PAF. they treat IAF as "Every Pilot is an ace"/IAF has 2-3 pilots per aircraft that means high generation of sorties/very high serviceability rates and world class ESM/ECM and Equipment" By this mind set Training and preparation could let it stand in Battle on equal terms.

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I think they should cancel (Swallow the loss of money after all they can afford it) and go for directly JSF big order they can get early deliveries as well (Turkish order that is cancelled) and get IAF pilots trained in Red FLAG regularly.
Always have been trained that way.
The PAF trains to fight a better equipped airforce with better pilots all the time. Focusing on teamwork and an all in asset approach to try and win.
When you are training against the worst odds all the time, you don’t end up surprised when your best are blown out of the sky.

Whether the news is fake is irrelevant now, the inception in Indian opposition minds against the BJP corruption is already underway.
 
Pakistani Pilots Trained to Operate Rafale Jets in France; India’s ‘Bad Deal’ for New Fighters Now Looks Alot Worse
April-11th-2019

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India’s controversial acquisition of the French Dassault Rafale medium weight multirole fighter, which has mired Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s BJP government in a serious corruption scandal due in part to the extreme costsof the platforms, has reportedly been undermined by recent reports that Pakistani pilots were given access to the aircraft and trained to operate them in France. While the primary pretext for Rafale acquisition has been to counter Pakistan, particularly in light of recent skirmishes in the air between the two countries in late February 2019, news that the Pakistani military is likely aware of the exact specifications of the fighters has dealt a serious blow to the platform’s potential viability in Indian hands. While Pakistan has no plans to operate the Rafale itself, instead relying on the upcoming JF-17 Block 3 and stealth fighters developed under Project AZM to modernise its fleet, Pakistani pilots under the Qatari Air Force were dispatched to France to train on the Rafales. The Qatari armed forces have relied on recruits from the South Asian state to operate its hardware since the 1970s, and Pakistani personnel even operated Qatari battle tanks during the 1991 Gulf War and engaged Iraqi forces on the Gulf State’s behalf. Qatar’s small population and extremely high living standards have meant that it has been unable to recruit its own citizens to serve in the front lines of its own armed forces - and much like neighbouring Saudi Arabia it has relied heavily on Pakistani assistance as a result.

Pakistani familiarity with the Rafale design, and the fact that its pilots have flown the aircraft before the first squadron was ready for service in the Indian Air Force, means that its armed forces will know the fighter's exact limitations and those of its weapons systems - allowing assets such as PL-12 equipped JF-17 fighters and HQ-16 air defence batteries to better avoid attacks from the French made platforms and more effectively neutralise them in turn. Alongside the current corruption sandal surrounding the Rafale acquisition, this could well be a key factor in preventing the Indian Air Force from pursing further acquisitions of the French fighters - which it is currently considering as part of its RFI tender for new light-medium weight fighter jets. The Indian fighter fleet, however, still remains highly capable of countering potential Pakistani attacks with its heavier and more capable fighter jets such as the Su-30MKI - which surpasses the capabilities of the Rafale across the spectrum and is capable of carrying state of the art munitions such as the R-77, R-27ER, AIM-132 air to air missiles and BrahMos cruise missile with which Pakistan's armed forces are far less familiar.

Than what about Indian pilots flying Numbers of F 16 multiple times including extensive evaluation during MMRCA 1?
 
Than what about Indian pilots flying Numbers of F 16 multiple times including extensive evaluation during MMRCA 1?
There's a world of difference between just evaluating a platform and being fully trained on it to operate the system.
 
There were no Pakistanis, trust me. Why India is asking for confirmation in this. Haven't Indians proved that the news was fake and after all French Ambassadors denied the same.

Moreover, did India think that buying 36 Rafale means India now owns French and Dassault? Those were Qataris pilots and that's all. Can't understand the unnecessary Indian insecurity despite the news being fake as per ambassador.

Well it seems you dont know the meaning of business.

36 is not a final number .
Numbers can change depends upon the approach of French.
Any way this will be last fighter jet from foreign nations ,so these numbers can even outgun French AF if we gets what we want .
They knows that also .
This Rafale and Tejas Mk2 will succeded all other kinds of jets in IAF inventory .
Then AMCA.
 
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