Indian surgical strikes: PAF strategy prevented India

[karan.1970]

Pls read the thread in holbrooke where I have been hammered like anything u will understand we are max. 1 or 2 years away.

that sounds really great. So how would this go down in terms of aquisitions and preparations to be able to be strong enough to strong arm USA?

 

[prithwidw]

Atleast we get them...You were not able to secure your guests whom you pomised "presedential security". It was hilarious the way those thugs walked away after attacking SL team.
And those hotels were bck in business within 6 months...guess how many yrs bf4 you will see some internationl crckt ome back to PK soil.

PS: It hurts isn't it? Being moderator, should have shown some decency.

Dude, Ajpirzada said all that in good sense.

 

[prithwidw]

come on people we dont need to do any airstrikes there or intrude in to their land

each and everyday a bomb attack is ripping their cities and we all know who they blame and the best part is that no body is buying their theory

it seems we r doing our duty well

And you are the mouthpiece of GoI? Stop justifying terrorism, where innocents are butchered, be it India or Pakistan.

 

[CHTYA_nandan]

Ok man - U are clearly not an Indian - Why are you portraying yourself to be one -

Well could be a disgruntled local brand Nepali maoist living in India. Remember as Taimi khan informed the IP address is located in India.

 

[Cisco-GUY]

It's highly unlikely that the exact nature of such sensitive issue will be disclosed to public domain, however answering the media persons today, the Air Chief disclosed that the PAF conducting exercises in both conventional and non conventional warfare and has perfected the strategy of converting from defensive offence to offensive offence in two minutes.

Seems like Pakistan beat India's deadline (96 hours) by huge margin

 

[prototype]

And you are the mouthpiece of GoI? Stop justifying terrorism, where innocents are butchered, be it India or Pakistan.

have u ever lost someone ,someone dear to u,someone who have nothing to do with all these problems,just because some religious lunatics consider this as a freedom fight,if no then u r lucky,if yes(i never hope for that) then u will also start to enjoy fire in ur neighbour's house

 

[pop_alsa]

India will need atleast 50 more years to balance american military power, or a 1000 miracles to go past.

American power is in "dollar" system. Whole American Military is not enough to enslave 1.2Billion Indians. See Iraq. Is military power enough? Nope.

Military power is useful only if it succeeds to instill fear into minds of those who matters i.e. ruling elites of country.

Thats what has happened with India's case. Its elites have surrendered to American power without realizing India's strength.

India is too big to enslave. Divided India of 16th century was different case. Today, its totally different. But Indian leadership counts Indian power based on Western metrics of "GDP". They miss the real picture. And, hence they feel weak in their knees.

India is not weak, its powerful enough to handle any American pressure but problem is weak-minded leadership and elites of India, who are "awed" by american power.

Here is a hint to those who think USA is superpower and uncontrollable - In 1973, USA signed a deal with Saudi Arabia(SA) King that SA will sell their oil in american dollar($) to everyone and will refuse to accept any other currency/means(Gold). In return USA promised to provide Saudis with latest weapons as protection from their neighbours.(This is similar to British strategy in India, where British offered weapons to Hindu Kings as protection from their neighbouring Hindu king states. Divide and Rule.) This treaty helped in big way to enforce american dollar monopoly on Global Oil trade system and gave USA influence in the region and over every country who buys Oil in dollars. Because every country now has to ask USA Federal bank for "dollars" because they can't buy Oil using Gold or any other currency. This provided USA immense influence because they print and control dollar.

Now if India signs a treaty with Saudi King and he agrees to partly/fully sell Oil to India in Indian rupees and in return, offers Saudis a way to invest those rupees back into Indian economy, buy good from India then, this will reduce American influence on India because India can just print "rupees" or just borrow from local Indian banks at home and buy Oil from SA and there will be no American Federal bank in the loop.

And, if this deal succeeded then, other countries in region will demand similar agreement of buying Oil in Indian rupees from SA because then, they can exports their good to India and earn rupees. This will further weaken American influence on those countries as well. If deal worked with SA, other in OPEC will be more than happy to create a balance against monopoly of american dollar which they find difficult to break.

India can do above because it has that cultural commonality with surrounding countries and it can do so if it "wants" to.

Well, thats a small example of what India can do and is structurally capable to do. But Indian elites don't have guts to play such big games on global geopolitics stage. Only Gora knows how to think big and play.

Thats why I always say - "problem is not size of Indian economy. Problem is small thinking of Indians. They don't understand what India is and why West is paranoid of passing technology to India. Because West knows what India is capable of".

26/11 was more of western attempt according to me, to increase hate and misunderstanding between Indian elites and its neighbour. Pakistan has nothing to gain from 26/11 other than increased problem in its affairs.

Peaceful pakistan is good for India and bad for West. Pakistanis need to understand this and some do but they don't control their ISI and Army. So, its a tricky situation for India but letting USA play its games is bad.

Its better that India should talk directly to PakArmy, ISI and break a deal. Think of long-term interests of two neighbours.

India can't control USA but it can definitely do something about PakArmy,ISI if it plays its cards right.

 

[prithwidw]

have u ever lost someone ,someone dear to u,someone who have nothing to do with all these problems,just because some religious lunatics consider this as a freedom fight,if no then u r lucky,if yes(i never hope for that) then u will also start to enjoy fire in ur neighbour's house

Yes I have.

 

[black flame]

they are much much serius cheafs then indian cheafs go check who got respect more.

well respect don't win war its just the fire powerand the balls of a soldier

 

[Windjammer]

Seems like Pakistan beat India's deadline (96 hours) by huge margin

There is a difference in converting strategy and making tall claims of eliminating the opposition in set time. As the saying goes, it's difficult to judge the depth of a river by merely staring from it's banks.

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

American power is in "dollar" system. Whole American Military is not enough to enslave 1.2Billion Indians. See Iraq. Is military power enough? Nope.

Military power is useful only if it succeeds to instill fear into minds of those who matters i.e. ruling elites of country.

Thats what has happened with India's case. Its elites have surrendered to American power without realizing India's strength.

India is too big to enslave. Divided India of 16th century was different case. Today, its totally different. But Indian leadership counts Indian power based on Western metrics of "GDP". They miss the real picture. And, hence they feel weak in their knees.

India is not weak, its powerful enough to handle any American pressure but problem is weak-minded leadership and elites of India, who are "awed" by american power.

Here is a hint to those who think USA is superpower and uncontrollable - In 1973, USA signed a deal with Saudi Arabia(SA) King that SA will sell their oil in american dollar($) to everyone and will refuse to accept any other currency/means(Gold). In return USA promised to provide Saudis with latest weapons as protection from their neighbours.(This is similar to British strategy in India, where British offered weapons to Hindu Kings as protection from their neighbouring Hindu king states. Divide and Rule.) This treaty helped in big way to enforce american dollar monopoly on Global Oil trade system and gave USA influence in the region and over every country who buys Oil in dollars. Because every country now has to ask USA Federal bank for "dollars" because they can't buy Oil using Gold or any other currency. This provided USA immense influence because they print and control dollar.

Now if India signs a treaty with Saudi King and he agrees to partly/fully sell Oil to India in Indian rupees and in return, offers Saudis a way to invest those rupees back into Indian economy, buy good from India then, this will reduce American influence on India because India can just print "rupees" or just borrow from local Indian banks at home and buy Oil from SA and there will be no American Federal bank in the loop.

And, if this deal succeeded then, other countries in region will demand similar agreement of buying Oil in Indian rupees from SA because then, they can exports their good to India and earn rupees. This will further weaken American influence on those countries as well. If deal worked with SA, other in OPEC will be more than happy to create a balance against monopoly of american dollar which they find difficult to break.

India can do above because it has that cultural commonality with surrounding countries and it can do so if it "wants" to.

Well, thats a small example of what India can do and is structurally capable to do. But Indian elites don't have guts to play such big games on global geopolitics stage. Only Gora knows how to think big and play.

Thats why I always say - "problem is not size of Indian economy. Problem is small thinking of Indians. They don't understand what India is and why West is paranoid of passing technology to India. Because West knows what India is capable of".

26/11 was more of western attempt according to me, to increase hate and misunderstanding between Indian elites and its neighbour. Pakistan has nothing to gain from 26/11 other than increased problem in its affairs.

Peaceful pakistan is good for India and bad for West. Pakistanis need to understand this and some do but they don't control their ISI and Army. So, its a tricky situation for India but letting USA play its games is bad.

Its better that India should talk directly to PakArmy, ISI and break a deal. Think of long-term interests of two neighbours.

India can't control USA but it can definitely do something about PakArmy,ISI if it plays its cards right.

This makes sense. But India needs to think bigger picture. If India thinks that by bad-mouthing, sidelining, and backstabbing China will help it ---> it still doesn't understand life.

Bottom line is, China is NOT hurting India. Yes, it hurts when you see your neighbor being able to prosper, yet your own business is faltering. If Indians can not compete against Chinese fairly, it is NOT our fault. You have 3 options:

1) Improve the quality, production, and price of your products.

OR

2) Sabotage, back-stab, bad-mouth (see what USA is doing to Toyota-Honda-Mazda-Nissan) Chinese people

OR

3) Give up and die

Only option 1) is preferable. If you go for 2) then in time they will avenge themselves. Option 3) giving up results in a slow death.




Best option is to become COOPERATIVE and share the world with everyone else. Maybe, just maybe the new Multi-Polar World will accept the INR as one of the global currencies.

 

[Arik]

India could have carried out surgical strikes if it knew for sure the attackers were from Pakistan.There was a lot of confusion initially regarding the identity of the attackers.Some reports suggested it was a gang fight others suggested it was a work of a new group Deccan Mujahideen.As time passed by it became clear that the attackers were Pakistanis ,but at the same time Pakistani defences were alerted fearing precision strikes from India.

The aim of surgical stike is to have accurate information and inflict maximum damage within a few hours.After being offensive for a while one can go defensive .

Another 26/11 and precision strikes are iminent.

 

[prithwidw]

India could have carried out surgical strikes if it knew for sure the attackers were from Pakistan.There was a lot of confusion initially regarding the identity of the attackers.Some reports suggested it was a gang fight others suggested it was a work of a new group Deccan Mujahideen.As time passed by it became clear that the attackers were Pakistanis ,but at the same time Pakistani defences were alerted fearing precision strikes from India.

The aim of surgical stike is to have accurate information and inflict maximum damage within a few hours.After being offensive for a while one can go defensive .

Well said.

Another 26/11 and precision strikes are iminent.

I highly doubt it.

 

[mokkaiboy]

You mean the same for Indian brainwashed ones whenever India talk of surgical strikes sans any action???

common little girl, dont get too frustrated and first complete your 5th standard, bye

 

[Arik]

Well said.



I highly doubt it.

I am saying so because i saw the protests in Mumbai and elsewhere
in India on TV.People had gone ballistic and were filled with emotions.People were literally demanding war with Pakistan.If the UPA led coalition does not act in the aftermath of another 26/11 they will end up losing power and a new government will be formed.