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Are u serious
I mean seriously how can u believe that 80 men were killed of lashker and PA with out any single casualties in your side
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Are u serious
I mean seriously how can u believe that 80 men were killed of lashker and PA with out any single casualties in your side
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Has anyone seen this?
Shortly after the Army announced in Delhi that surgical strikes had been carried out along the LoC, Minister of State for Information and Broadcasting Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore told The Hindu that these did not involve any aerial operations.
“There were no aerial strikes,” Mr. Rathore, himself an ex-Indian Army man, explained recounting the operation. He denied that any helicopters were used. He confirmed that the Indian Army crossed the LoC “on the ground” for carrying out what he termed were “pre-emptive strikes”. “That is not like crossing the International Border.” The targets were “launch pads”, he said, which are temporary in nature. Infiltrators gather there for a day or so just before crossing over to the Indian side under cover of Pakistan Army. firing.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-pape...-of-copters-aerial-strikes/article9165152.ece
Shortly after the Army announced in Delhi that surgical strikes had been carried out along the LoC, Minister of State for Information and Broadcasting Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore told The Hindu that these did not involve any aerial operations.
“There were no aerial strikes,” Mr. Rathore, himself an ex-Indian Army man, explained recounting the operation. He denied that any helicopters were used. He confirmed that the Indian Army crossed the LoC “on the ground” for carrying out what he termed were “pre-emptive strikes”. “That is not like crossing the International Border.” The targets were “launch pads”, he said, which are temporary in nature. Infiltrators gather there for a day or so just before crossing over to the Indian side under cover of Pakistan Army. firing.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-pape...-of-copters-aerial-strikes/article9165152.ece
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These figures are legit. He brought them out of his black hole. So they must be legit. He has reason to believe in them. He is deluded. He must be left alone to believe in whatever catching his sweet fancy.
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But indian media is credible.....oh wait, nevermind.
Haha
A genuine suggestion to the enemy in the east:
Next time you make shit up, stick to ONE story, ONE set of facts, and a consistent sequence of realiatic and sellable events.
Hallmarks of every great bollywood movie.
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1. if any surgical strike would have taken place then pakistan would have responded for face saving. they could have went even to use cruise missile. secondly 4 indian stations out of 7 used are still empty with indian troops moving back.
2. what happened between 4:30 to 8:30. 4 hour indian vs 4 hour pakistani response
3. if indian would have fired a single shot then quick response force of pakistan army would have reached there in 5 minutes maximum.
4. they raided on pakistani posts in order to destroy them and suffered heavy casualities. why don't indians admit it.
5. 8 choppers would have meant that pakistan airforce and army must have been alerted before this happened. this much helis is considered an extra ordinay movement.
6. in surgical strikes their is always a clear target. can indians tell us the name of a single terrorist they killed?
7. on this side of LOC their is pakistni population who always informs army in any such case. did indians cut the communications of pakistanis including mobile phones or pakistani were too afraid to call.
8. few kilometers back their is second line of defence with observation posts and QRF and SSG commondos. were they made blind or dumb by indians mahan commondos?
9. indians record of killing 3,4 terrorists is 2 to 3 days. how could they kill so many terrorists in 4 hours. did they used terminator robots this time?
10. did pakistan army aviation took them back on our helicopters as a good host and friendship gesture?
11. if terrorists were supported by pakistan army then why would they live in open. they could have used the pakistani base just 1 km away. surely it would have taken them just 5 extra minutes to cross?
12. terrorists must have a communication system. you attack 1 all will be ready?
13. after the border firing started the backup force of pakistan army must have been already ready and on high alert?
14. indian army would have shown the video on first day proudly?
15. there were UN obseravatory forces there. they havent heard and seen anything too.
2. what happened between 4:30 to 8:30. 4 hour indian vs 4 hour pakistani response
3. if indian would have fired a single shot then quick response force of pakistan army would have reached there in 5 minutes maximum.
4. they raided on pakistani posts in order to destroy them and suffered heavy casualities. why don't indians admit it.
5. 8 choppers would have meant that pakistan airforce and army must have been alerted before this happened. this much helis is considered an extra ordinay movement.
6. in surgical strikes their is always a clear target. can indians tell us the name of a single terrorist they killed?
7. on this side of LOC their is pakistni population who always informs army in any such case. did indians cut the communications of pakistanis including mobile phones or pakistani were too afraid to call.
8. few kilometers back their is second line of defence with observation posts and QRF and SSG commondos. were they made blind or dumb by indians mahan commondos?
9. indians record of killing 3,4 terrorists is 2 to 3 days. how could they kill so many terrorists in 4 hours. did they used terminator robots this time?
10. did pakistan army aviation took them back on our helicopters as a good host and friendship gesture?
11. if terrorists were supported by pakistan army then why would they live in open. they could have used the pakistani base just 1 km away. surely it would have taken them just 5 extra minutes to cross?
12. terrorists must have a communication system. you attack 1 all will be ready?
13. after the border firing started the backup force of pakistan army must have been already ready and on high alert?
14. indian army would have shown the video on first day proudly?
15. there were UN obseravatory forces there. they havent heard and seen anything too.
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yaar sunny deol ko daal dena please itna kuch explain nahin karna parheyga we know about his super powers.Would they ask Bollywood producers for the production of the video?
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1, India did not make any claim. They simply stated what they did and wanted to say. Nobody is waiting for anything from any Pakistani. The four guys in your country that matter seem to have got the message. Job done. What proof? hike it.
2. support all you want.it just keeps confirming to the world at large Pakistanis support of terrorism
3. read what I wrote again. you got it backwards.
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No one is laughing at India. US, UK, Russia, Germany, Japan, France etc.. all with India and remember China will not support you on terror. Pakistan is an "anaesthetised patient after a surgery" . lol... What a country!.
Here is the real story .....
Since last year, the Indian Army has been monitoring the following launch-pads used by the Pakistan Army to infiltrate its ‘Sarkari Jihadi’ detachments into Jammu & Kashmir: from Bhimber Gali towards Shopian and Anantnag; from Lipa towards Baramula; from Jura towards Sopore; from Athmuqam towards Kupwara; from Dudhnial, Tejian, Shardi, Rattapani and Kel towards Machhal; and from Saonar and Sardari towards Kupwara and Sopore.
The base camps or sanctuaries for the ‘Sarkari Jihadi’ detachments are located further into the rear within Azad Kashmir and Khyber Paktunkhwa,
Finally, eight launch-pads spread over a linear 250km frontage and located at Lipa, Kel and Rattapani were chosen for targetted, surgical destruction lasting 7 hours (inclusive of cross ingress/egress) by the Indian Army’s 4 SF (Para) and 9 SF (Para) Battalions.
However, for retaining the element of surprise and initiative, an elaborate deception plan involving the Indian Army (IA) and Indian Air Force (IAF) was required. For, to be factored in was the high state of the operational readiness at that time of both the Pakistan Army (PA) and the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) throughout the LoC. Following the meeting of India’s Cabinet Committee on National Security (CCNS) on September 21, and another meeting between the Indian PM and the two armed services chiefs on September 24, a deception plan jointly prepared by the IA’s Udhampur-based HQ Northern Command and the IAF’s Delhi-based HQ Western Command was put into effect.
Both the IA and IAF decided to lull ther adversary into assuming that a powerful AirLand attack would be launched at a few locations in southern Azad Kashmir, namely in the Bhimber sector’s areas like Tatta Pani/Hot Springs area. While the IA decided upon unleashing field artillery fire-assaults against Samahni, Bandala and Tatta Pani, the IAF commenced a series of supporting helicopter movements.
For starters, by September 24 night, the IAF began ferrying out four Mi-35P attack helicopters belonging to the Pathankot-based 125 ‘Gladiators’ Sqn Sqn (the other Sqn—104 ‘Pioneer Rotarians is at Suratgarh) and making them land at selected locations like Poonch, Rajouri, Bhimber Gali and Krishna Ghati along with in-ptheatre Mi-17V-5s. All these movements were carried out non-stop for the following four days in full view of the PAF’s Saab 2000 AEW & CS platforms that were flying out of Kamra and keeping an eye on almost all air-movements inside both northern Punjab and Jammu & Kashmir.
( Thats why some media getting hint of chopper / air born operations )
Shortly after dusk on Sptember 28, the IA’s light field artillery and mortar strikes at locations inside Azad Kashmir, like Bandala, Samahni and Tatta Pani, from locations like Mankote, Balnoi and Nangi Tekri in the Krishna Ghati sector, and from Richhmar Gali in Tangdhar sector.
( Thats why PAK villages are getting sacred of loud noises and hide the noise of bullets near by)
The real insertion by foot of the IA’s SF (Para), however, took place in the Lipa, Shardi and Rattapani bulges (i.e. areas where Pakistan-controlled territory juts into J & K). Known as the JAW-HEAD tactic, this meant that the IA gave the impression of hitting the enemy’s jaws but in reality was aiming for the forehead in a totally surprising move.
The bulges were carefully selected so as to present favourable topography for the attacking forces.
For, throughout the LoC where IA and PA observation posts and bunkers are located face-to-face, extensive anti-personnel minefields are laid to cover the frontal and flank (left and right) approaches, but the rear area is devoid of any mines so as to facilitate friendly movements. Consequently, a raiding party beginning its ingress into enemy territory from the baselines of any bulge can stealthily sneak in through the rear and attack from the least expected direction. Thus, the IA’s SF (Para) detachments had to penetrate up to a depth of only 700 metres from the LoC but, if calculated from the frontal tip of a bulge, the targetted launch-pads would appear to be up to 3km inside Azad Kashmir.
Due to this common-sensical mission-planning, the SF (Para) detachments had not need for shoulder-fired LAWs like Carl Gustavs. Only NVDs and weapons like IWI-built Tavor TAR-21 assault rifles fitted with T-40 40mm single-shot underbarrel grenade launchers (UBGL) supplied by Turkish Makina ve Kimya Endüstrisi Kurumu (MKEK, or Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corp) were used with devastating effect.
The diversionary laying of light field artillery and mortar strikes at locations inside Azad Kashmir, like Bandala, Samahni and Tatta Panim sent the PA into a tizzy and it has yet to recover from this common-sensical shock-and-awe tactics.
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/in-kashm...he-washingtonpost.453131/page-3#ixzz4M08AZnY1
Since last year, the Indian Army has been monitoring the following launch-pads used by the Pakistan Army to infiltrate its ‘Sarkari Jihadi’ detachments into Jammu & Kashmir: from Bhimber Gali towards Shopian and Anantnag; from Lipa towards Baramula; from Jura towards Sopore; from Athmuqam towards Kupwara; from Dudhnial, Tejian, Shardi, Rattapani and Kel towards Machhal; and from Saonar and Sardari towards Kupwara and Sopore.
The base camps or sanctuaries for the ‘Sarkari Jihadi’ detachments are located further into the rear within Azad Kashmir and Khyber Paktunkhwa,
Finally, eight launch-pads spread over a linear 250km frontage and located at Lipa, Kel and Rattapani were chosen for targetted, surgical destruction lasting 7 hours (inclusive of cross ingress/egress) by the Indian Army’s 4 SF (Para) and 9 SF (Para) Battalions.
However, for retaining the element of surprise and initiative, an elaborate deception plan involving the Indian Army (IA) and Indian Air Force (IAF) was required. For, to be factored in was the high state of the operational readiness at that time of both the Pakistan Army (PA) and the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) throughout the LoC. Following the meeting of India’s Cabinet Committee on National Security (CCNS) on September 21, and another meeting between the Indian PM and the two armed services chiefs on September 24, a deception plan jointly prepared by the IA’s Udhampur-based HQ Northern Command and the IAF’s Delhi-based HQ Western Command was put into effect.
Both the IA and IAF decided to lull ther adversary into assuming that a powerful AirLand attack would be launched at a few locations in southern Azad Kashmir, namely in the Bhimber sector’s areas like Tatta Pani/Hot Springs area. While the IA decided upon unleashing field artillery fire-assaults against Samahni, Bandala and Tatta Pani, the IAF commenced a series of supporting helicopter movements.
For starters, by September 24 night, the IAF began ferrying out four Mi-35P attack helicopters belonging to the Pathankot-based 125 ‘Gladiators’ Sqn Sqn (the other Sqn—104 ‘Pioneer Rotarians is at Suratgarh) and making them land at selected locations like Poonch, Rajouri, Bhimber Gali and Krishna Ghati along with in-ptheatre Mi-17V-5s. All these movements were carried out non-stop for the following four days in full view of the PAF’s Saab 2000 AEW & CS platforms that were flying out of Kamra and keeping an eye on almost all air-movements inside both northern Punjab and Jammu & Kashmir.
( Thats why some media getting hint of chopper / air born operations )
Shortly after dusk on Sptember 28, the IA’s light field artillery and mortar strikes at locations inside Azad Kashmir, like Bandala, Samahni and Tatta Pani, from locations like Mankote, Balnoi and Nangi Tekri in the Krishna Ghati sector, and from Richhmar Gali in Tangdhar sector.
( Thats why PAK villages are getting sacred of loud noises and hide the noise of bullets near by)
The real insertion by foot of the IA’s SF (Para), however, took place in the Lipa, Shardi and Rattapani bulges (i.e. areas where Pakistan-controlled territory juts into J & K). Known as the JAW-HEAD tactic, this meant that the IA gave the impression of hitting the enemy’s jaws but in reality was aiming for the forehead in a totally surprising move.
The bulges were carefully selected so as to present favourable topography for the attacking forces.
For, throughout the LoC where IA and PA observation posts and bunkers are located face-to-face, extensive anti-personnel minefields are laid to cover the frontal and flank (left and right) approaches, but the rear area is devoid of any mines so as to facilitate friendly movements. Consequently, a raiding party beginning its ingress into enemy territory from the baselines of any bulge can stealthily sneak in through the rear and attack from the least expected direction. Thus, the IA’s SF (Para) detachments had to penetrate up to a depth of only 700 metres from the LoC but, if calculated from the frontal tip of a bulge, the targetted launch-pads would appear to be up to 3km inside Azad Kashmir.
Due to this common-sensical mission-planning, the SF (Para) detachments had not need for shoulder-fired LAWs like Carl Gustavs. Only NVDs and weapons like IWI-built Tavor TAR-21 assault rifles fitted with T-40 40mm single-shot underbarrel grenade launchers (UBGL) supplied by Turkish Makina ve Kimya Endüstrisi Kurumu (MKEK, or Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corp) were used with devastating effect.
The diversionary laying of light field artillery and mortar strikes at locations inside Azad Kashmir, like Bandala, Samahni and Tatta Panim sent the PA into a tizzy and it has yet to recover from this common-sensical shock-and-awe tactics.
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/in-kashm...he-washingtonpost.453131/page-3#ixzz4M08AZnY1
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Definitely indians isolating themselves and that surgical strike enigma gonna damage much more the value of indians in font of foreign world .......
We know that ,it not going to happen, but when public pressure mounts , US will be forced to act, like they Did, F-16 deal ? remember , AIDS stopping.
The same thing said by few Americans after Indian nuclear test and now world can see the result.
and their is now FB profile called Kim Braden, can you share the FB link of the said person?
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