Indian Sergical strike exposed || discussion

[saiyan0321]

That is obviously not true. Please don't make misleading statements. This is not a forum for propaganda." ?


There you go @Joe Shearer :p :p

Although I did say I have had it with this topic but I wanted to try something.

You see you whether knowingly or not knowingly implemented an idea that was forwarded by @Kaptaan

The idea being that we should have pre readied answers for each questions or statements which are often or commonly spoken by trolls. Posters, rather than having to write those posts again and again would simply copy paste the posts from that thread in answer to those frequently inquired questions or an answer to those statements. This may also help reduce trolling.

I personally liked the idea as constantly repeating the same thing to each and every poster is tiring as many are not here to learn but to sadly troll.

I would implore think tanks of every section to band together and create this thread. If anything it would raise the level of discussions even if it gets repetitive.

@notorious_eagle

 

[Joe Shearer]

That is obviously not true. Please don't make misleading statements. This is not a forum for propaganda." ?


There you go @Joe Shearer :p :p

Although I did say I have had it with this topic but I wanted to try something.

You see you whether knowingly or not knowingly implemented an idea that was forwarded by @Kaptaan

The idea being that we should have pre readied answers for each questions or statements which are often or commonly spoken by trolls. Posters, rather than having to write those posts again and again would simply copy paste the posts from that thread in answer to those frequently inquired questions or an answer to those statements. This may also help reduce trolling.

I personally liked the idea as constantly repeating the same thing to each and every poster is tiring as many are not here to learn but to sadly troll.

I would implore think tanks of every section to band together and create this thread. If anything it would raise the level of discussions even if it gets repetitive.

@notorious_eagle

An ACHINGLY brilliant idea! We talked about it in relation to Kashmir - an FAQ - and I was asked to put it together, but I couldn't afford the books necessary, and it is still waiting.

We should have an FAQ, WITH DISSENTING OPINIONS BUILT IN, over here as well.

It's a great idea!

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I have one question that no Indian sane or insane is answering. I'm going to tag @Joe Shearer here as well. If Indians strikes did occur against launch pad where fully armed insurgents are launched to Indian side , Can you tell me, How come fully armed Insurgents didn't fire a single shot and not a single fire fight broke b/w two belligerents and no casualty occurred ?

How come 8 choppers remained undetected despite of Red alert of PAF and High Mark 2016 exercises being going on ?

Were Arnab present in the Pak-America Meeting where Pakistanis were crying to America ?


These are one of many holes in the story that Indians are refusing to answer.


Last but not the least, Imagine if we pulled a stunt like this with Kalbhushan yadav where by Lt. General Asim Bajwa declaring we caught spy without presenting it to media. Imagine how much we would have become the laughing stock. But Honor and respect are the words alien to Indians.

the indians are being incredibly tight-lipped.....you can tell from their tone and tantrums how weak they must feel deep down inside. They believe their own lies - or do they?

by the way we still have an indian soldier in our custody, ISPR has taken media to the areas where the supposed "surgical strike" took place (no sign of damage). In response india arrested a few Pakistani fishermen. That's their revenge. Cowardice from the enemy knows know bounds. Nobody buys their lies

@Stealth -- share some of the links you posted on the Facebook Page. They summed things up well!

The above source is indian so it is highly unreliable, probably fake, very misleading and in all probability a complete fabrication. Unless there is confirmation from a reliable source the above footage is completely null & void. These are the same media outlets that claimed pre-May 1998 that Pakistan would NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance.

Pornob and his butt-buddy Maroof "Raza" only know how to shout, interrupt, and hearly cheap insults. Schoolboys have more intellectualism. Funny for them, they always get TRASHED by Pakistani panelists on their own indian tv channel.

It's sad when an anchor like this goswami character earns money to lie and fool his people. Ground reality assessments are far more in line with what's going on - not barking from a studio somewhere in mumbai or assam or wherever he is sitting lol

 

[SDS1]

the indians are being incredibly tight-lipped.....you can tell from their tone and tantrums how weak they must feel deep down inside. They believe their own lies - or do they?

by the way we still have an indian soldier in our custody, ISPR has taken media to the areas where the supposed "surgical strike" took place (no sign of damage). In response india arrested a few Pakistani fishermen. That's their revenge. Cowardice from the enemy knows know bounds. Nobody buys their lies

We know u have our one soldier , but your ISPR denied having any soldier in its custody.
The said boat was caught off Gujarat cost, might be fishermen , might not be. yet to be determine.

Pornob and his butt-buddy Maroof "Raza" only know how to shout, interrupt, and hearly cheap insults. Schoolboys have more intellectualism. Funny for them, they always get TRASHED by Pakistani panelists on their own indian tv channel.

It's sad when an anchor like this goswami character earns money to lie and fool his people. Ground reality assessments are far more in line with what's going on - not barking from a studio somewhere in mumbai or assam or wherever he is sitting lol

well havent you seen when they ask simple question to PAK panelist, they started saying their written line , If they were asked what is 2+2 = ?? they started saying we know english , maths we studies this and that.

 

[PAR 5]

The Indian Soldier captured by the LoC is being held in a building in Rawalpindi under normal guard. We invite the super stealthy-super silent- no evidence left behind Indian Para Commandos to kindly conduct another 'surgical strike' to set the PoW free.

 

[django]

No one is laughing at India. US, UK, Russia, Germany, Japan, France etc.. all with India and remember China will not support you on terror. Pakistan is an "anaesthetised patient after a surgery" . lol... What a country!.

HAHAHAHAHHA Russia only went onto hold the military exercises and those were also partially held in GB an area you ******** astonishingly claim as your own, as for the Chinese, check out the latest news on the brahamaputra

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Finally, CM Delhi, Arvind Kejriwal questioning surgical strike farce...this is falling flat on Modi's face.

 

[Counterpunch]

Here is the real story .....

Since last year, the Indian Army has been monitoring the following launch-pads used by the Pakistan Army to infiltrate its ‘Sarkari Jihadi’ detachments into Jammu & Kashmir: from Bhimber Gali towards Shopian and Anantnag; from Lipa towards Baramula; from Jura towards Sopore; from Athmuqam towards Kupwara; from Dudhnial, Tejian, Shardi, Rattapani and Kel towards Machhal; and from Saonar and Sardari towards Kupwara and Sopore.

The base camps or sanctuaries for the ‘Sarkari Jihadi’ detachments are located further into the rear within Azad Kashmir and Khyber Paktunkhwa,

Finally, eight launch-pads spread over a linear 250km frontage and located at Lipa, Kel and Rattapani were chosen for targetted, surgical destruction lasting 7 hours (inclusive of cross ingress/egress) by the Indian Army’s 4 SF (Para) and 9 SF (Para) Battalions.

However, for retaining the element of surprise and initiative, an elaborate deception plan involving the Indian Army (IA) and Indian Air Force (IAF) was required. For, to be factored in was the high state of the operational readiness at that time of both the Pakistan Army (PA) and the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) throughout the LoC. Following the meeting of India’s Cabinet Committee on National Security (CCNS) on September 21, and another meeting between the Indian PM and the two armed services chiefs on September 24, a deception plan jointly prepared by the IA’s Udhampur-based HQ Northern Command and the IAF’s Delhi-based HQ Western Command was put into effect.

Both the IA and IAF decided to lull ther adversary into assuming that a powerful AirLand attack would be launched at a few locations in southern Azad Kashmir, namely in the Bhimber sector’s areas like Tatta Pani/Hot Springs area. While the IA decided upon unleashing field artillery fire-assaults against Samahni, Bandala and Tatta Pani, the IAF commenced a series of supporting helicopter movements.

For starters, by September 24 night, the IAF began ferrying out four Mi-35P attack helicopters belonging to the Pathankot-based 125 ‘Gladiators’ Sqn Sqn (the other Sqn—104 ‘Pioneer Rotarians is at Suratgarh) and making them land at selected locations like Poonch, Rajouri, Bhimber Gali and Krishna Ghati along with in-ptheatre Mi-17V-5s. All these movements were carried out non-stop for the following four days in full view of the PAF’s Saab 2000 AEW & CS platforms that were flying out of Kamra and keeping an eye on almost all air-movements inside both northern Punjab and Jammu & Kashmir.

( Thats why some media getting hint of chopper / air born operations )

Shortly after dusk on Sptember 28, the IA’s light field artillery and mortar strikes at locations inside Azad Kashmir, like Bandala, Samahni and Tatta Pani, from locations like Mankote, Balnoi and Nangi Tekri in the Krishna Ghati sector, and from Richhmar Gali in Tangdhar sector.

( Thats why PAK villages are getting sacred of loud noises and hide the noise of bullets near by)

The real insertion by foot of the IA’s SF (Para), however, took place in the Lipa, Shardi and Rattapani bulges (i.e. areas where Pakistan-controlled territory juts into J & K). Known as the JAW-HEAD tactic, this meant that the IA gave the impression of hitting the enemy’s jaws but in reality was aiming for the forehead in a totally surprising move.

The bulges were carefully selected so as to present favourable topography for the attacking forces.
For, throughout the LoC where IA and PA observation posts and bunkers are located face-to-face, extensive anti-personnel minefields are laid to cover the frontal and flank (left and right) approaches, but the rear area is devoid of any mines so as to facilitate friendly movements. Consequently, a raiding party beginning its ingress into enemy territory from the baselines of any bulge can stealthily sneak in through the rear and attack from the least expected direction. Thus, the IA’s SF (Para) detachments had to penetrate up to a depth of only 700 metres from the LoC but, if calculated from the frontal tip of a bulge, the targetted launch-pads would appear to be up to 3km inside Azad Kashmir.


Due to this common-sensical mission-planning, the SF (Para) detachments had not need for shoulder-fired LAWs like Carl Gustavs. Only NVDs and weapons like IWI-built Tavor TAR-21 assault rifles fitted with T-40 40mm single-shot underbarrel grenade launchers (UBGL) supplied by Turkish Makina ve Kimya Endüstrisi Kurumu (MKEK, or Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corp) were used with devastating effect.

The diversionary laying of light field artillery and mortar strikes at locations inside Azad Kashmir, like Bandala, Samahni and Tatta Panim sent the PA into a tizzy and it has yet to recover from this common-sensical shock-and-awe tactics.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/in-kashm...he-washingtonpost.453131/page-3#ixzz4M08AZnY1

But why is it that all the details are getting filtered and improving by the day. For instance, the choppers have now been removed from the story. Total time of the attack has also been reduced now to make it look reasonable enough to be spent doing action in a hostile territory. Artillery masking the sounds of gun fire is one lose end which could be improved by mentioning the use of guns with silencers, unless the artillery's bang and TAR-21's guns was synchronized to confuse the villagers 'living right on the LoC'.

P.S: By the way, I am really offended at exclusion of Carl Gustavs now ..Totally unfair.. they have been part of the story right up till I read this spoiler from you mate!

 

[SherDil]

Pornob and his butt-buddy Maroof "Raza" only know how to shout, interrupt, and hearly cheap insults. Schoolboys have more intellectualism. Funny for them, they always get TRASHED by Pakistani panelists on their own indian tv channel.

 

[hassamun]

Finally, CM Delhi, Arvind Kejriwal questioning surgical strike farce...this is falling flat on Modi's face.

Indian media is portraying a different angle of this incident...Mr Kejriwal said:

“It has resorted to playing dirty politics. Since the last two days, Pakistan is taking international journalists to the border and trying to show that surgical strikes never took place. Two days back, the United Nations gave a statement that there was no such activity on the border,” he said. “My blood boiled over these news reports (of the international media). Pakistan is indulging in smearing India’s image at the international level.”

“I appeal to the Prime Minister that the way he and the Army taught Pakistan a lesson on ground, he should also unmask the propaganda by Pakistan at international level. The whole country is with you. I also appeal to the countrymen not to believe in the false campaign by Pakistan,” he said.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...kes-by-the-army-across-loc/article9180402.ece

The Truth is Still Out There....(a bit catchy but reminds me of the X-Files)

 

[SherDil]

Confused souls !

 

[zebra7]

Gloves Are Finally Off Against Those Irreconcilable, Compulsively Sulking Negativists!

Since last year, the Indian Army has been monitoring the following launch-pads used by the Pakistan Army to infiltrate its ‘Sarkari Jihadi’ detachments into Jammu & Kashmir: from Bhimber Gali towards Shopian and Anantnag; from Lipa towards Baramula; from Jura towards Sopore; from Athmuqam towards Kupwara; from Dudhnial, Tejian, Shardi, Rattapani and Kel towards Machhal; and from Saonar and Sardari towards Kupwara and Sopore.

The base camps or sanctuaries for the ‘Sarkari Jihadi’ detachments are located further into the rear within Azad Kashmir and Khyber Paktunkhwa, as shown in the slide below.

Finally, eight launch-pads spread over a linear 250km frontage and located at Lipa, Kel and Rattapani were chosen for targetted, surgical destruction lasting 7 hours (inclusive of cross ingress/egress) by the Indian Army’s 4 SF (Para) and 9 SF (Para) Battalions.

However, for retaining the element of surprise and initiative, an elaborate deception plan involving the Indian Army (IA) and Indian Air Force (IAF) was required. For, to be factored in was the high state of the operational readiness at that time of both the Pakistan Army (PA) and the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) throughout the LoC. Following the meeting of India’s Cabinet Committee on National Security (CCNS) on September 21, and another meeting between the Indian PM and the two armed services chiefs on September 24, a deception plan jointly prepared by the IA’s Udhampur-based HQ Northern Command and the IAF’s Delhi-based HQ Western Command was put into effect.

Both the IA and IAF decided to lull ther adversary into assuming that a powerful AirLand attack would be launched at a few locations in southern Azad Kashmir, namely in the Bhimber sector’s areas like Tatta Pani/Hot Springs area. While the IA decided upon unleashing field artillery fire-assaults against Samahni, Bandala and Tatta Pani, the IAF commenced a series of supporting helicopter movements.

For starters, by September 24 night, the IAF began ferrying out four Mi-35P attack helicopters belonging to the Pathankot-based 125 ‘Gladiators’ Sqn Sqn (the other Sqn—104 ‘Pioneer Rotarians is at Suratgarh) and making them land at selected locations like Poonch, Rajouri, Bhimber Gali and Krishna Ghati along with in-ptheatre Mi-17V-5s. All these movements were carried out non-stop for the following four days in full view of the PAF’s Saab 2000 AEW & CS platforms that were flying out of Kamra and keeping an eye on almost all air-movements inside both northern Punjab and Jammu & Kashmir.

Shortly after dusk on Sptember 28, the IA’s light field artillery and mortar strikes at locations inside Azad Kashmir, like Bandala, Samahni and Tatta Pani, from locations like Mankote, Balnoi and Nangi Tekri in the Krishna Ghati sector, and from Richhmar Gali in Tangdhar sector.

The real insertion by foot of the IA’s SF (Para), however, took place in the Lipa, Shardi and Rattapani bulges (i.e. areas where Pakistan-controlled territory juts into J & K). Known as the JAW-HEAD tactic, this meant that the IA gave the impression of hitting the enemy’s jaws but in reality was aiming for the forehead in a totally surprising move.

The bulges were carefully selected so as to present favourable topography for the attacking forces. For, throughout the LoC where IA and PA observation posts and bunkers are located face-to-face, extensive anti-personnel minefields are laid to cover the frontal and flank (left and right) approaches, but the rear area is devoid of any mines so as to facilitate friendly movements. Consequently, a raiding party beginning its ingress into enemy territory from the baselines of any bulge can stealthily sneak in through the rear and attack from the least expected direction. Thus, the IA’s SF (Para) detachments had to penetrate up to a depth of only 700 metres from the LoC but, if calculated from the frontal tip of a bulge, the targetted launch-pads would appear to be up to 3km inside Azad Kashmir.

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[zebra7]

Due to this common-sensical mission-planning, the SF (Para) detachments had not need for shoulder-fired LAWs like Carl Gustavs. Only NVDs and weapons like IWI-built Tavor TAR-21 assault rifles fitted with T-40 40mm single-shot underbarrel grenade launchers (UBGL) supplied by Turkish Makina ve Kimya Endüstrisi Kurumu (MKEK, or Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corp) were used with devastating effect.

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The diversionary laying of light field artillery and mortar strikes at locations inside Azad Kashmir, like Bandala, Samahni and Tatta Panim sent the PA into a tizzy and it has yet to recover from this common-sensical shock-and-awe tactics.

So what comes next? It will be logical to assume that before the onset of winter, the Pakistan Army (PA) will try its level-best to facilitate the infiltration of several ‘sarkari jihadis’ into the Kashmir Valley through multiple infiltration routes along the LoC and even through the ‘Working Boundary’ or WB (i.e. Pakistan’s international border with Jammu that includes the Chicken’s Neck area and which India insists is part of the International Boundary or IB and therefore should not be referred to as the WB) under the cover of deliberate field artillery skirmishes. India, on the other hand, by officially stating that it considers the whole of Azad Kashmir as an integral part of the state of Jammu & Kashmir (J & K), has therefore declared that she will regard any Pakistani support/facilitation for armed insurrection by its ‘sarkari jihadis’ inside J & K who have been launched from their sanctuaries inside Azad Kashmir as a direct and deliberate act-of-war. Consequently, India therefore has signalled her determination to not only target such sanctuaries through repetitive, preventive cross-LoC special operations, but more significantly, has for all intents and purposes declared her intent to climb the escalatory ladder both horizontally (by expanding the lateral frontage required for offensive ground operations) and vertically by bringing in offensive airpower (like the Jaguar IS armed with CBU-105 SFW) to target all PA field artillery gun emplacement sites, regardless of whether they are located within Azad Kashmir or to the west of the WB in the northeaster portion of Pakistan’s Punjab state.

This explains the PA’s initiation of mortar fire against Nowshera's Salal and Baba Khor areas Akhnoor's Pallanwalla area and in the Balnoie area of Mendhar sector on September 27, followed by the Sabzian area in Poonch on September 28, 2016. Concurrently, India on September 27started the process of evacuating nearly 1,000 villages in the six border districts of Punjab state that are within 10km of the India-Pakistan international boundary (around the Shakargarh Salient)—these being the districts of Amritsar, Tarn Taran, Gurdaspur, Pathankot, Fazilka and Ferozepur. In addition, as a defensive measure the Indian Army (IA) has begun laying anti-tank mines along the Shakargarh Salient and has also begun deploying medium field artillery regiments on both flanks of the Uri-Poonch Bulge as well as around the Shakargarh Salient and Chicken’s Neck area. Through this action, India is signalling that while it has no intention of unleashing its Strike Corps through the IB, she retains the option of unleashing the unrestricted use of her offensive airpower and the IA’s combined armoured and mechanised warfare formations (integrated battle groups) ably supported by field artillery fire-assaults inside both Azad Kashmir and the Chicken’s Neck area in order to compel the PA to acknowledge that there’s no such thing as a WB and thus its sanctity should be accepted and respected in the same way as the IB.


To further drive home this point, the Indian Air Force (IAF), barely a week after concluding its annual ‘Talon’ series of air exercises (which are normally held at the same time as the Pakistan Air Force’s annual Highmark series of annual air exercises), activated all 18 of the principal and subordinate air bases of the Western Air Command and Southwestern Air Command on September 26, and began a four-day wargaming exercise that included synchronised air dominance, battlefield air-interdiction and tactical air-interdiction sorties being flown in support of areas of responsibility of the IA’s Southwestern Command (HQed Jaipur, Rajasthan), Western Command (HQed Chandimandir, Chandigarh) and Northern Command (HQed in Udhampur, J & K). Incidentally, thePakistan Air Force’s EX Highmark had concluded on September 24.

To the north, those PA battle formations that are LoC-specific and Chicken’s Neck-specific are the Mangla-based I Corps that comprises the Gujranwala-based 6 Armoured Division, Kharian-based 17 Infantry Division and the 37 Infantry Division also in Kharian; and the Rawalpindi-based X Corps that includes the Gilgit-based Force Command Northern Areas, Murree-based 12 Infantry Division, Mangla-based 19 Infantry Division and the Jhelum-based 23 Infantry Division, Formations allocated for operations along the Shakargarh Salient are the Gujranwala-based XXX Corps comprising the Sialkot-based 8 Infantry Division and 15 Infantry Division; and the Multan-based II Corps made up of the Multan-based 1 Armoured Division, and the Okara-based 14 Infantry Division and 40 Infantry Division. Thus far, no significant forward deployments of any of these formations have taken place.

Down south, the battle formations arrayed against Rajasthan include theBahawalpur-based XXXI Corps with its 26 Mechanised Division and 35 Infantry Division; and the Karachi-based V Corps with its Pano Aqil-based 16 Infantry Division, Hyderabad-based 18 Infantry Division and Malir-based 25 Mechanised Division. So far, only some elements of the 25 and 26 Mechanised Divisions have been deployed opposite an area stretching from Jaisalmer to Fort Abbas and the PA has begun flying relentless sorties of its Shahpar (CH-3) tactical UAVs that were acquired from China’s CATIC in 2012. This is probably a precautionary measure aimed at monitoring the IA’s upcoming Division-level armoured/mechanised infantry exercises that are annually held during wintertime.
(To Be Concluded)


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[salarsikander]

Due to this common-sensical mission-planning, the SF (Para) detachments had not need for shoulder-fired LAWs like Carl Gustavs. Only NVDs and weapons like IWI-built Tavor TAR-21 assault rifles fitted with T-40 40mm single-shot underbarrel grenade launchers (UBGL) supplied by Turkish Makina ve Kimya Endüstrisi Kurumu (MKEK, or Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corp) were used with devastating effect.

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The diversionary laying of light field artillery and mortar strikes at locations inside Azad Kashmir, like Bandala, Samahni and Tatta Panim sent the PA into a tizzy and it has yet to recover from this common-sensical shock-and-awe tactics.

So what comes next? It will be logical to assume that before the onset of winter, the Pakistan Army (PA) will try its level-best to facilitate the infiltration of several ‘sarkari jihadis’ into the Kashmir Valley through multiple infiltration routes along the LoC and even through the ‘Working Boundary’ or WB (i.e. Pakistan’s international border with Jammu that includes the Chicken’s Neck area and which India insists is part of the International Boundary or IB and therefore should not be referred to as the WB) under the cover of deliberate field artillery skirmishes. India, on the other hand, by officially stating that it considers the whole of Azad Kashmir as an integral part of the state of Jammu & Kashmir (J & K), has therefore declared that she will regard any Pakistani support/facilitation for armed insurrection by its ‘sarkari jihadis’ inside J & K who have been launched from their sanctuaries inside Azad Kashmir as a direct and deliberate act-of-war. Consequently, India therefore has signalled her determination to not only target such sanctuaries through repetitive, preventive cross-LoC special operations, but more significantly, has for all intents and purposes declared her intent to climb the escalatory ladder both horizontally (by expanding the lateral frontage required for offensive ground operations) and vertically by bringing in offensive airpower (like the Jaguar IS armed with CBU-105 SFW) to target all PA field artillery gun emplacement sites, regardless of whether they are located within Azad Kashmir or to the west of the WB in the northeaster portion of Pakistan’s Punjab state.

This explains the PA’s initiation of mortar fire against Nowshera's Salal and Baba Khor areas Akhnoor's Pallanwalla area and in the Balnoie area of Mendhar sector on September 27, followed by the Sabzian area in Poonch on September 28, 2016. Concurrently, India on September 27started the process of evacuating nearly 1,000 villages in the six border districts of Punjab state that are within 10km of the India-Pakistan international boundary (around the Shakargarh Salient)—these being the districts of Amritsar, Tarn Taran, Gurdaspur, Pathankot, Fazilka and Ferozepur. In addition, as a defensive measure the Indian Army (IA) has begun laying anti-tank mines along the Shakargarh Salient and has also begun deploying medium field artillery regiments on both flanks of the Uri-Poonch Bulge as well as around the Shakargarh Salient and Chicken’s Neck area. Through this action, India is signalling that while it has no intention of unleashing its Strike Corps through the IB, she retains the option of unleashing the unrestricted use of her offensive airpower and the IA’s combined armoured and mechanised warfare formations (integrated battle groups) ably supported by field artillery fire-assaults inside both Azad Kashmir and the Chicken’s Neck area in order to compel the PA to acknowledge that there’s no such thing as a WB and thus its sanctity should be accepted and respected in the same way as the IB.


To further drive home this point, the Indian Air Force (IAF), barely a week after concluding its annual ‘Talon’ series of air exercises (which are normally held at the same time as the Pakistan Air Force’s annual Highmark series of annual air exercises), activated all 18 of the principal and subordinate air bases of the Western Air Command and Southwestern Air Command on September 26, and began a four-day wargaming exercise that included synchronised air dominance, battlefield air-interdiction and tactical air-interdiction sorties being flown in support of areas of responsibility of the IA’s Southwestern Command (HQed Jaipur, Rajasthan), Western Command (HQed Chandimandir, Chandigarh) and Northern Command (HQed in Udhampur, J & K). Incidentally, thePakistan Air Force’s EX Highmark had concluded on September 24.

To the north, those PA battle formations that are LoC-specific and Chicken’s Neck-specific are the Mangla-based I Corps that comprises the Gujranwala-based 6 Armoured Division, Kharian-based 17 Infantry Division and the 37 Infantry Division also in Kharian; and the Rawalpindi-based X Corps that includes the Gilgit-based Force Command Northern Areas, Murree-based 12 Infantry Division, Mangla-based 19 Infantry Division and the Jhelum-based 23 Infantry Division, Formations allocated for operations along the Shakargarh Salient are the Gujranwala-based XXX Corps comprising the Sialkot-based 8 Infantry Division and 15 Infantry Division; and the Multan-based II Corps made up of the Multan-based 1 Armoured Division, and the Okara-based 14 Infantry Division and 40 Infantry Division. Thus far, no significant forward deployments of any of these formations have taken place.

Down south, the battle formations arrayed against Rajasthan include theBahawalpur-based XXXI Corps with its 26 Mechanised Division and 35 Infantry Division; and the Karachi-based V Corps with its Pano Aqil-based 16 Infantry Division, Hyderabad-based 18 Infantry Division and Malir-based 25 Mechanised Division. So far, only some elements of the 25 and 26 Mechanised Divisions have been deployed opposite an area stretching from Jaisalmer to Fort Abbas and the PA has begun flying relentless sorties of its Shahpar (CH-3) tactical UAVs that were acquired from China’s CATIC in 2012. This is probably a precautionary measure aimed at monitoring the IA’s upcoming Division-level armoured/mechanised infantry exercises that are annually held during wintertime.
(To Be Concluded)


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Extere,y lovely post to read. But then again will it change anything on ground ? Hardly anything

 

[zebra7]

Extere,y lovely post to read. But then again will it change anything on ground ? Hardly anything

Read it fully, its in two part Baby, and show the ideotcy you are showing for few days of why no hellicopter sounds were never heard -- Because they were never used, and was used to Make you Mamoo.


Now, only thing what you can do is take the media to those areas where India did the artillery assault, and that too from 20 KM away.

Funny part is

1. Media talking to the residents, but who is claiming that IA did the operation in Residential Area.

2. Claiming that India never did operation, as no Hellicopter sound was heard -- So when did DGMO, not the Media claim that choppers was used.

3. Claiming that LOC is uncrossable, but forgot that if you can use a way to infilterate, than we could also use the same path to enter and hit you black and blue.

4. Claiming that PA is able to protect you from the Indian evil plans, but in reality, India never tried that, untill now. There are many options available against you, and the Xixian Card is yet to be played, first deal with the water, regional and global isolation -- Even confirmed by your Former President and COAS Parvez Mushraff resently, but your media won't highlight that.

5. The Whole actions of yours is only showing that Pakistani Army at this stage is not willing to indulge with India, which is ready to rock and roll to climb the escallation ladder. And keep updating yourself for the petition filled in UK and U.S to declare Pakistan as Terrorist State.

6. You was very anxious to see the 56 inch Chest of Modi, but don't have the patience, You will get the oppurtunity to see that, but slowly and slowly. Jor Ka Jhatka Dhire se Lagega Mamoo.