Indian Scientists Successfully Intercept Ballistic Missile

[Kinetic]

^^So PAD uses KKV.....??

Yes. Its a two stage missile and the second stage is KKV. Without it how can PAD maneuver out side atmosphere where the fins don't work. Hit-to-kill and gimbeled directional warhead both are available for the KKV. There was an old video where it shown that DRDO testing literal thrusters for the KKV, like that you can see how the KKV approaching towards the target.

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

awesome reply mate...

But any idea when will PDV be tested..????

and guys u have any idea,how many months will it take to build a single ABM missile once the technology is proved successful......???

Dr. Saraswat said the next test would be done later this year to intercept a 2000-km-range incoming missile at an altitude of 150 km. India's plans for putting in place the first phase of the two-layered ballistic missile defence shield by 2012 and the second phase by 2016 were on course. This would be done by integrating it with the Air Defence System of the Indian Air Force and the Army.

 

[indushek]

Ok, guys! I think our friend peaceful has muddied the water quite a bit resulting into a lot of confusion over altitude and warhead of the Indian ABM system. So, here is a review of the issues in focus.


1. WTF is this KKV?

KKV is a short form of Kinetic kill vehicle which is a type of warhead used for ASAT and ABM purposes.

This technology is known as Hit to kill (HTK) and here is a good article summarizing what this S**t is all about!

Kinetic Energy Hit-To-Kill Warhead







So, it is a case of hitting a bullet with another bullet!




2.What does AAD and PAD use as a warhead?

Currently, both of them use a " P-Charge gimballed directional Interceptor Warhead"

A. 'gimbaled directional warhead' is a warhead only one side of which explodes close to an incoming ballistic missile, shattering it. It is a manoeuvrable warhead which can rotate 360 degrees. Dr. Saraswat has said that it weighs only around 30 kg but is able to generate the impact that a 150 kg omni-directional warhead could make.

B. The warhead is also a P-charge [projectile charge] warhead that can penetrate thick steel and cause damage with a high hit [repeat hit] density.

"That means the number of holes you create per unit area is very high," a DROD official told the press in October, 2009.


Currently this is the warhead both PAD and AAD use and I must say it is pretty advanced.




3. Are the DRDO folks sitting idle about HTK technology?

NOPE! Check this out......




This is further confirmation.......





Also, please note that PDV too boasts of an IIR seeker with RLG based INS which are a must for KKV!




4. What about Mid course inteception?

--- The PDV is designed to take out the target missile at altitudes above 150 km (93 mi).


So, we can safely say that PDV is gonna go for Mid course Interception. (I hope peaceful is reading this.)


Also,

The Phase 2 missile defense system will be based on the AD-1 and AD-2 interceptor missile that are currently under development.

"Ground testing of the AD-1 will begin next year and the AD-1 missile will be test-fired in 2012," Saraswat told India Today in June 2010.

These interceptors would be capable of shooting down missiles that have ranges greater than 5,000 km, which follow a distinctly different trajectory than a missile with a range of 2,000 km or less. During their final phase, ICBMs hurtle towards their targets at speeds twice those of intermediate range missiles.

So, the future is definately going for mid course interception!




5. But the world is going for Boost phase interception, what about that?


Boost Phase Missile Defense
The Laser and Science Technology Centre (LASTEC) is also reported to be developing lasers to takeout enemy missiles during their boost phase, when they are most vulnerable.

"It's easier to kill a missile in boost phase as it has not gained much speed and is easier to target. It cannot deploy any countermeasures and it is vulnerable at that time," DRDO's Air Defense Program Director V K Saraswat told PTI in January 2009.

"In LASTEC, we are developing many of these technologies. We have to package these technologies on aircraft like the Americans have done on their systems," he added.

"It is an involved process and not just about producing lasers. We have to put in many systems like the surveillance and tracking systems together for such a system to work. It will take another 10-15 years before we talk of integrating all these elements," he said.

arey bhai tum itna bada bada reply maroge to bachha ghabra jayega meri jaan.

Excellent reply by the way, bhai.

 

[Manas]

Capability to neutralise enemy satellites proved

The Hindu : News / National : Capability to neutralise enemy satellites proved

The fresh success of the interceptor missile mission on Sunday has demonstrated the country's capability to neutralise adversarial satellites in space, according to V.K. Saraswat, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister.

India has “all the technologies and building blocks which can be used for anti-satellite missions” in the low-earth and polar orbits. However, “India's policy is that it will not weaponise space, and we are committed to the peaceful uses of outer space,” he said.

Out of the six interceptor missions conducted so far by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), five have been successful.

“FANTASTIC SUCCESS”

Dr. Saraswat, who is also the DRDO Director-General, called Sunday's mission “a fantastic success.” The interceptor boasted new technologies such as directional warhead, fibre-optic gyroscopes and a radio-frequency seeker that guided the interceptor to attack the incoming “enemy missile” at an altitude of 16 km above the Bay of Bengal.

The incoming missile, a modified Prithvi, blasted off at 9.32 a.m. from the launch complex III of the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur, Orissa. It mimicked the trajectory of a ballistic missile with a 600-km range. In no time, radars at different locations swung into action, tracking the “enemy” missile, constructing its trajectory and passing on the information in real time to the Mission Control Centre (MCC) to launch the interceptor, an Advanced Air Defence (AAD) missile. It had a directional warhead to go so close to the adversarial missile before exploding to inflict the maximum damage on it. The interceptor had state-of-the-art guidance systems to achieve a manoeuvrable trajectory.

The MCC identified the attacker as a ballistic missile and assigned it to the Launch Control Centre (LCC) on Wheeler Island. After making quick calculations, the LCC launched the interceptor “right on the dot at the required instant,” Dr. Saraswat said. The AAD soared into the sky at 9.37 a.m. from Wheeler Island to take care of the “threat.”

The interceptor manoeuvred in the direction of the target, which was called the “least energy manoeuvre,” he said. The interceptor raced into the sky at 4.5 Mach. In the terminal phase of the attacker's flight, as it was hurtling towards the earth, the interceptor's radio frequency seeker “acquired the target, rolled the interceptor in the right direction and, when it was a few metres from the target, gave the command to the directional warhead to explode,” Dr. Saraswat explained.

The warhead detonated, blasting the attacker to pieces. The ground-based radars and the sensors on board the targeted missile tracked the debris, which rained down over the Bay of Bengal, “confirming a very good kill,” the DRDO Director-General said. “Based on the data from the target, a 100 per cent kill was achieved.” The radars were located at Konark and Kendrapara, near Paradip, in Orissa.

V.L.N. Rao, Programme Director; Avinash Chander, Director, Advanced Systems Laboratory, DRDO, Hyderabad; K. Sekhar, Chief Controller (Missile Systems and Low Intensity Conflict), DRDO; and S.P. Dash, Director, ITR, were present on Wheeler Island. Defence Minister A.K. Antony congratulated the DRDO missile technologists on the successful demonstration of the ballistic missile defence system.

Dr. Saraswat said the next test would be done later this year to intercept a 2000-km-range incoming missile at an altitude of 150 km. India's plans for putting in place the first phase of the two-layered ballistic missile defence shield by 2012 and the second phase by 2016 were on course. This would be done by integrating it with the Air Defence System of the Indian Air Force and the Army.

Only the U.S., Russia, France, Israel and India have the capability to put in place a ballistic missile defence shield. China is still developing it. It conducted an anti-ballistic missile test on January 11, 2010. The target missile, launched from Xichang, was intercepted and destroyed at an altitude of 700 km by a KT-2 variant missile that took off from near Korla in Xinjiang province.

 

[Kinetic]

Dr. Saraswat said the next test would be done later this year to intercept a 2000-km-range incoming missile at an altitude of 150 km. India's plans for putting in place the first phase of the two-layered ballistic missile defence shield by 2012 and the second phase by 2016 were on course. This would be done by integrating it with the Air Defence System of the Indian Air Force and the Army.

I think missile defence system should be operated by Strategic Forces Command. What do you think?

 

[BoseDK]

What is the benifit?

SFC is only obliged to inflict ruthless and disproportionate nuclear catastrophe on our enemy. Defence is altogether out of portfolio for it.

And Isnt the BMS supposed to be self operating, with a response time less than 60 secs and without manual intervention??

 

[Kinetic]

The interceptor boasted new technologies such as directional warhead, fibre-optic gyroscopes and a radio-frequency seeker

DRDO used new seeker for this test. Fibre optic gyros is good, I think earlier one had MEMS gyro.

The incoming missile, a modified Prithvi, blasted off at 9.32 a.m. from the launch complex III of the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur, Orissa. It mimicked the trajectory of a ballistic missile with a 600-km range. In no time, radars at different locations swung into action, tracking the “enemy” missile, constructing its trajectory and passing on the information in real time to the Mission Control Centre (MCC) to launch the interceptor, an Advanced Air Defence (AAD) missile. It had a directional warhead to go so close to the adversarial missile before exploding to inflict the maximum damage on it. The interceptor had state-of-the-art guidance systems to achieve a manoeuvrable trajectory.

The MCC identified the attacker as a ballistic missile and assigned it to the Launch Control Centre (LCC) on Wheeler Island. After making quick calculations, the LCC launched the interceptor “right on the dot at the required instant,” Dr. Saraswat said. The AAD soared into the sky at 9.37 a.m. from Wheeler Island to take care of the “threat.”

The interceptor manoeuvred in the direction of the target, which was called the “least energy manoeuvre,” he said. The interceptor raced into the sky at 4.5 Mach. In the terminal phase of the attacker's flight, as it was hurtling towards the earth, the interceptor's radio frequency seeker “acquired the target, rolled the interceptor in the right direction and, when it was a few metres from the target, gave the command to the directional warhead to explode,” Dr. Saraswat explained.

The warhead detonated, blasting the attacker to pieces. The ground-based radars and the sensors on board the targeted missile tracked the debris, which rained down over the Bay of Bengal, “confirming a very good kill,” the DRDO Director-General said. “Based on the data from the target, a 100 per cent kill was achieved.” The radars were located at Konark and Kendrapara, near Paradip, in Orissa.

Thats sensational. Liked the robust architecture of the system.

 

[Kinetic]

What is the benifit?

SFC is only obliged to inflict ruthless and disproportionate nuclear catastrophe on our enemy. Defence is altogether out of portfolio for it.

I think the SFC is the most active part of the armed forces they are ready 24x7 to reply enemy with appropriate weapons, but in war they don't come into scene until there is no ballistic missile attack or NBC attack on India, at that time we need ABM.

So these two are connected. It will be better if SFC is given the task for destroying the enemy with nuclear/chemical/biological weapons as well as defending such attacks from the enemy while army, navy and air force fighting tactical wars in the field.

 

[BoseDK]

SIr, Still not convincing enough. You argue than unless a person is in SFC, he cant be "ready 24x7".

 

[Kinetic]

SIr, Still not convincing enough. You argue than unless a person is in SFC, he cant be "ready 24x7".

Actually I didn't mean it, I want to say that SFC is a force that is there only to retaliate with NBC weapons all the time and we need the same for ABM. Its not that IA, IAF cant do that but it will be better if SFC operate the ABM.

Two jobs for SFC.....

1) Protect India from NBC weapons.
2) Retaliate with NBC weapons.


There are huge commonalities in these two jobs as well. Like both need early warning systems, robust C4I etc.

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

I think missile defence system should be operated by Strategic Forces Command. What do you think?

I think it should be a separate and dedicated group that should manage the Defence shield. personnels can be picked from the 3 armed forces. SFC already has important role of counter strike. I wish we could develop an integrated and automated defence and counter strike mechanism. Man will be in loop but everything should be automated.

we should develop a national grid that connects all the radars and space based assets for any threat detection. Based on the threat perception the software should be able to take automated actions with a man in loop.

 

[BoseDK]

For Allahs sake, dont you understand that SFC needs political nod to operate any thing. We need to have and I am sure we must be having a more effective team dedicated for this purpose. Why do you want to pitch in SFC only?

 

[Kinetic]

I think it should be a separate and dedicated group that should manage the Defence shield. personnels can be picked from the 3 armed forces. SFC already has important role of counter strike. I wish we could develop an integrated and automated defence and counter strike mechanism. Man will be in loop but everything should be automated.

Thats how exactly India's SFC will work with in next two years if not already. Because its the main reason behind building SFC wseparating from IAF, IA and IN with personals from them.

 

[BoseDK]

Like both need early warning systems, robust C4I etc.

What early warning system?? We need to be good solidly nuked first before we can inflict counter attack. This is the as early a warning as it can get, thanks to our nuclear doctrine. Where as automated response in terms of BMS is in seconds

Attack and defence are host of different portfolios. ANd SFC operated strictly in WMD terms. WHo knows whether your BMD intercepted a miccile with nuclear warhead or a conventional one? What will be your response to a BM interception?

 

[Kinetic]

For Allahs sake, dont you understand that SFC needs political nod to operate any thing.

SFC needs PM's order to strike with nuclear weapons but who said that they will need the same for ABM?

We need to have and I am sure we must be having a more effective team dedicated for this purpose

This will be another mess with in already complected force structure which even don't have joint chief of staffs though forces proposing it for long time.

Why do you want to pitch in SFC only?

I have already mentioned it. Commonality of work.