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[The_Showstopper]

Its not a question of leadership. There is world of differences between leading a govt and a private org. For example, if a govt organization does some relief work somewhere, it is their duty, their responsibility. If a private organization does same work, it is charity. The meaning behind their actions, their motivations, the public expectations, everything change. The policies of govt are different than personal policies of the political leaders running it. A govt run by socialist/communist people would still do business with west. It doesn't reflect on their personal ideologies. If some money is donated to a govt org - it is equivalent of donating to govt, some figurehead's personality has minimal role to play in it while with a personal org having a distinctive head, connotations change. In the first case govt is responsible to take care of that money, unlike the second one.

You have the answer in your very own post. Who heads the government? Who takes the decisions? Ofcourse Chief minister, who is the real decision maker, Governor can be termed a figurehead but not the elected chief minister. Yes a Chief minister can appoint others to overlook a particular work but he at the end of the day will be the one who is the final decision maker.

 

[NKVD]

When BJP won those many seats in UP, every Hindu was Hindu. no Brahmin, no Yadav , no Rajput no Dalit. Everyone was Hindu. That is not the case this time. Polarization is not absolute this time.

My calculations are based on hard facts and ground realities. No offense to your uncle but BJP crossing or, touching 50 is very difficult.

Well We See that Look Lok Sabha Very diffrent fro vidhan sabha Last time congress shocked all winning 22 Seats Last time Bjp By Targeted Dalit voters this times By taking varous faces like udit raj and paswaan And represent modi himself as Dalit In Up
Your See varous forces like brij bhushan sing bending towards Bjp will give you Idea At least where wave is and Muzzafar nagar roits Iginited the Polarization fire among Hindus Specialy jats. Will Be Interseting this time

 

[Kloitra]

You have the answer in your very own post. Who heads the government? Who takes the decisions? Ofcourse Chief minister, who is the real decision maker, Governor can be termed a figurehead but not the elected chief minister. Yes a Chief minister can appoint others to overlook a particular work but he at the end of the day will be the one who is the final decision maker.

I meant figure head of the org. It is different for govt because of the auditing, the policy making, the public support, and many other factors.

For example, if I donate some money to a govt org, there would be governmental auditing of where the money is being spent. For a private org, I would have to trust it.

 

[The_Showstopper]

What the hell what kind of dumb u r who told u dat these r happening at the cost of ppl's live, i am from a densely industrial zone from odisha like anugul,jajpur,paradip, samblpur,sundagarh,rourkela and many more and i have seen the industry that are green field projects are always developed on a futile(fruitless) land which are non of use.

And the most benifited person from dat project are the local ppl, local business always got flourished arnd any big industry, so it overally a win-win situation for every one. Yes u can argue now abt environment or a derelict agricultural lands but u have to go away with some sort of thing to achieve larger things.

plz dont give me facts , links, and statistics, i can give u same kind of thing in every 5 minutes to counter ur point . I am well aware of odisha's politics, demography, topology and economy and i know how the useless NGO like one of ur master khjli get benefited from these kind of anti industry agitation, they never care for ppl or try to improve their economy only remain busy in own orgnisation revenue from the culprits

Mate refrain from making personal attacks. It is your personal opinion that locals get the benefit. but some/many can disagree with you. Its the reliable sources that need to back your claim, only then can anyone believe you on a personal capacity.

I meant figure head of the org. It is different for govt because of the auditing, the policy making, the public support, and many other factors.

For example, if I donate some money to a govt org, there would be governmental auditing of where the money is being spent. For a private org, I would have to trust it.

But you/me wouldn't and shouldn't trust anything blindly. You only trust when you are sure of its authenticity. A private body is monitored by a regulatory body. So you have something to trust upon. Isn't it?

 

[jha]

then JHA bhai it wud be very difficult for BJP to touch 230 on its own

and one more thing u mentioned one of ur earlier post dat in UP brahmins are usually up to congress but i can tell u i am also a brahmin but never seen any of my relatives fall in line for congress, all r harcore BJP and RSS wala although i m not from UP may be over there equation wud a diff one . correct me if i m wrong...

Yes.. It will be difficult to touch 230. But then the target always was to cross 200, wasnt it..?

Brahmins never fall in line for anyone. We create emperors.

In UP before Ayodhya movement, there was only one party worth voting for - Congress. Once the Ayodhya movement started Brahmins turned to BJP. But BJP in 90s and ealry 2000 proved to be a colossal failure. So when Mayawati promised a lot , Brahmins voted for her. This time they are voting for BJP again.

Well We See that Look Lok Sabha Very diffrent fro vidhan sabha Last time congress shocked all winning 22 Seats Last time Bjp By Targeted Dalit voters this times By taking varous faces like udit raj and paswaan And represent modi himself as Dalit In Up
Your See varous forces like brij bhushan sing bending towards Bjp will give you Idea At least where wave is and Muzzafar nagar roits Iginited the Polarization fire among Hindus Specialy jats. Will Be Interseting this time

There is a wave. No doubt in that. However is it strong enough to touch 50..? I would say No..not yet..

 

[Kloitra]

But you/me wouldn't and shouldn't trust anything blindly. You only trust when you are sure of its authenticity. A private body is monitored by a regulatory body. So you have something to trust upon. Isn't it?

Not as much as government, at least in democracy, although from an ideal point of view. A private body may or may not be monitored by a regulatory body, a government may or may not be corrupt. That is not the issue. In democracy, government has the mandate to run the country/state/region. Not a private body.

As I said before, the connotations of donating the money to govt and a private organization are different.

 

[The_Showstopper]

Not as much as government, at least in democracy, although from an ideal point of view. A private body may or may not be monitored by a regulatory body, a government may or may not be corrupt. That is not the issue. In democracy, government has the mandate to run the country/state/region. Not a private body.

As I said before, the connotations of donating the money to govt and a private organization are different.

FYI mate, all bodies whether private/public are monitored by a regulatory body at least on paper(in India). For me to start a business/trust/society etc, I need to have permissions from different bodies which regulate the respective fields, so private bodies may have independent decision making but still would have follow certain set of rules of the land.

Source: NGO Registration in India: Trust, Society and Non profit Company
Income Tax for NGOs

 

[Kloitra]

FYI mate, all bodies whether private/public are monitored by a regulatory body at least on paper(in India). For me to start a business/trust/society etc, I need to have permissions from different bodies which regulate the respective fields, so private bodies may have independent decision making but still would have follow certain set of rules of the land.

Source: NGO Registration in India: Trust, Society and Non profit Company
Income Tax for NGOs

Is there some government agency which audits all the private organizations?

 

[NKVD]

Yes.. It will be difficult to touch 230. But then the target always was to cross 200, wasnt it..?

Brahmins never fall in line for anyone. We create emperors.

In UP before Ayodhya movement, there was only one party worth voting for - Congress. Once the Ayodhya movement started Brahmins turned to BJP. But BJP in 90s and ealry 2000 proved to be a colossal failure. So when Mayawati promised a lot , Brahmins voted for her. This time they are voting for BJP again.



There is a wave. No doubt in that. However is it strong enough to touch 50..? I would say No..not yet..

Lets see what happens in up this time finger are crossed on youths this time

 

[JanjaWeed]

Congress cant desert Gandhi family. This family is the only reason they are a party.

Rahul is not cut out for the post. Maybe bringing Priyanka will inspire their cadre. But she does not seem to be interested.

Congress needs Gandhis more than Gandhis need Congress..
Had they gone for Priyanka right from the start, Congress would have been in a much better situation today. Priyanka would have been a much more presentable, more eloquent & a better crowd puller than Rahul Gandhi ever will be. . Then again.. I think it's bit late in the day considering the fact that she will be carrying that Robert Vadra baggage with her.. a ready-made fodder for opposition parties. Even if she decides to take a plunge & gets into politics... they will be nothing but Indian version of Benazir Bhutto & Asif Ali Zardari...

 

[Kloitra]

Had they gone for Priyanka right from the start, Congress would have been in a much better situation today. Priyanka would have been a much more presentable, more eloquent & a better crowd puller than Rahul Gandhi ever will be. . Then again.. I think it's bit late in the day considering the fact that she will be carrying that Robert Vadra baggage with her.. a ready-made fodder for opposition parties. Even if she decides to take a plunge & gets into politics... they will be nothing but Indian version of Benazir Bhutto & Asif Ali Zardari...

Still better than "this morning I woke up at night" Rahul!

 

[The_Showstopper]

Is there some government agency which audits all the private organizations?

Please check the links I previously posted.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Still better than Rahul!

Any time!

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Yes.. It will be difficult to touch 230. But then the target always was to cross 200, wasnt it..?

Brahmins never fall in line for anyone. We create emperors.

In UP before Ayodhya movement, there was only one party worth voting for - Congress. Once the Ayodhya movement started Brahmins turned to BJP. But BJP in 90s and ealry 2000 proved to be a colossal failure. So when Mayawati promised a lot , Brahmins voted for her. This time they are voting for BJP again.



There is a wave. No doubt in that. However is it strong enough to touch 50..? I would say No..not yet..

Kya baat hai- Jha Saheb's empire building ambitions finally in the open

 

[jiki]

Brahmins never fall in line for anyone. We create emperors.

Mast tha ye wala line hats off to u , how can i forgot greatest king maker ever Chanakya .
Nahi to apna bullet raja wala dialogue hai na