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Congress MP quits party, to join BJP tomorrow!

New Delhi, Feb 12: Congress MP from Haryana Rao Inderjit Singh, who had demanded a probe into land deals of Sonia Gandhi's son-in-law Robert Vadra, today ended 35-year association with the party as he resigned to join BJP tomorrow. Singh, a Minister in UPA-I government and a known bete noire of Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda, said he quit Congress as the party's ideology had "changed" and policies were being made keeping "personal interests" in view. The 63-year-old Lok Sabha member from Gurgaon, said he would join BJP as there "is a similarity" of views between him and that party. "I have been associated with Congress for long. But now its ideology is not the same as it used to be," he told PTI after sending his resignation letter to party chief Sonia Gandhi. The three-time MP, who has been a legislator for four terms in Haryana, said Congress earlier used to keep the interests of the poor and oppressed class in mind. "But now, policies in Congress are made keeping personal interests in mind," he charged. Son of late Union Minister Rao Birendra Singh, he had stirred a controversy in September last year when he demanded a fair probe into the land deals of Vadra in his affluent Gurgaon constituency and be given punishment if he was guilty. "I feel the administration has not functioned the way it ought to have.... I'm not in the business of prosecuting Robert Vadra.... if anybody has made money illegally, they should all be held accountable and if that includes Robert Vadra, he should be held accountable as well," he had said. Looking forward to working with Narendra Modi, Inderjit Singh said the BJP leader was capable of providing the much-needed stability to the country and address the problems like price rise and poverty.

Read more at: Congress MP quits party, to join BJP tomorrow - News Oneindia
 
The 'Hunger Index' exposed the truth behind the 'Claims' of Gujarat's so-called development. Gujarat is standing before Bihar, Assam and UP regarding starvation among common people. फेंकू के दावे बिलकुल जूठे निकले हैं। अब 'इंडियन स्टेटहंगर इंडेक्स' के जारी किये गए आंकड़ों के अनुसार उत्तर प्रदेश, बंगाल और असम से ज्यादाभूखमरी, दुःख और तकलीफ की स्थिति गुजरात में पायी गई है। गुजरात में भूखमरी से झूझ रहेलोगों की संख्या किसी राज्यों से कम नहीं है। अगर फेंकू अपना भ्रामक
प्रचार बंद कर वास्तविकस्थिति को नहीं देखेंगे तो भूख और दुःख में 'गुजरात नंबर वन' बन जायेगा।


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MODUS OPERANDI OF THE TROLL ARMY
The main aim of this troll army is to show massive support for Modi in the online community.
To achieve this they mainly indulge in the following tactics:
1) Up vote en masse
2) Down vote en masse
3) Post proModi comments en masse
Besides this they troll anyone who has a different point of view or specifically, is not pro Modi, with abuses and personal attacks. The aim is to discourage users who are not Modifanboys from commenting at FP, thus creating an impression of hundred percent support for their idol.
Also they try to raise issues tangentially in order to manipulate the discussion in a certain direction or obfuscate the issue at hand.And of course lies, half truths and propaganda reeks through most of their comments.
To confirm the same, one can always visit any article and analyze the comment section for up voting, down voting and nature of comments.

Almost without exceptions the pro-Modi comments are large in numbers. This need not necessarily mean that actual users are posting or participating in discussion. In all likelihood there are just a few users at any given time of the day who are operating different ids to vote as well as comment.

GHOST IDS

Previously when the up voters were not visible, a ghost army was at work to up vote proModi comments and down vote all anti Modi comments. Basically these are ids of the kind C4Q, W7DL272, CM782SN8S10. These have no comment history and no following and followers list. These can be best described as use and throw Id’s created for the sole purpose of up voting and down voting or specifically for down voting as one needs a Disqus id for the same and cannot down vote as guest.

In this particular screenshot as one can observe the comment has been up voted 92 times using such ghost ids.





Forty three ghost id’s voting the following comment. In all probability these same Id’s have been used to down vote their perceived opponent’s comments as many as 100 times and more.



These ghost supporters can be seen in action here: Ghosts Who Vote


UPVOTE/DOWNVOTE SCORES : More Upvotes Equal to electoral votes?

The trolls seem to be under the delusion that more up votes in the comment section will fetch more votes for their idol in the elections. The way they diligently up vote all their mates/id’s and similarly down vote their presumed opponent’s, one is forced to conclude that they have absolute faith in their own dogma.



“Ever wondered why you get so many negative ratings for your comments?”Retorts a level 1 operative in
the above instance.

HIGH DOWN-VOTES = NO VISA TO COMMENT?
As per the troll rule book high Down Votes is a dis-qualifier for a commentator and it automatically makes him/her eligible for filthy abuses, bullying and is a NO ENTRY ticket to FP.

Commentators @Firangi_paani and @manohar_T have been consistently facing this kind of harassment.
They have been mocked and abused for their low UPvote score.The discussion points raised by them are however completely ignored.
Needless to say the following words of Samuel Butler will trickle like water through sieve in case of these fan boys.

“It is not he who gains the exact point in dispute who scores most in controversy - but he who has shown the better temper.”
MATCHING SEQUENCES: Many ids one user

In many cases there is an exact sequence of voters in more than one instance. This leads one to infer that possibly the ids were operated by a single person.




Another example of an exact matching sequence from a different article:




Following is some of the High UPvotes sampled randomly from sample source . Not all of them are exact matches but same pool of ids are functioning and show a somewhat similar sequence.



In the above data UPVOTE3 and UPVOTE5 are an exact match. UPVOTE4 is also mirror image to these voting sequence except voters @Sanatan Dharma and @Brijesh Kumar got added as outside voters.
Similarly in case of UPVOTE6 @Surya Hegde is an added ID that is used.

In the following data (sample source) there is no exact match but again the same set of ID’s are used and also one or two addition or deletion of ID’s gives an exact pattern. For Example UPV 8 and UPV 9 could be an exact match except for the added ID @AKASH in UPV 9.


Several such matching sequences were found here: Matching Sequences
Two such matching sequences are as follows:

Matching Sequence 1
Swati
Maurya
MauryaRajeev
RajeevEternalPessimist
AbhinavAbhinav
VikasVikas
ChristopherKChristopherK
AkshayAkshay
NaMoForPMNaMoForPM
BhaveshSomaniBhaveshSomani
KaranKaran
AniruddhCAniruddhC
AshwinKumarAshwinKumar
AnujTAnujT
SD**SD**
SanjeevGSanjeevG
RaviRavi
RakeshRavish
SinghRakeshSingh
MiteshMitesh
MithramMithram
SumiSumi
HarishHarish
ravikant_sravikant_s

Matching Sequence 2
SwatiSwati
RajeevRajeevSwati
EternalPessimistEternalPessimistRajeev
AbhinavAbhinavEternalPessimist
NaMoForPMNaMoForPMAbhinav
BhaveshSomaniBhaveshSomaniNaMoForPM
KaranKaranBhaveshSomani
AshwinKumarAshwinKumarKaran
AnujTAnujTAnujT
SD**SD**SD**
SanjeevGSanjeevGSanjeevG
RaviRaviRavi
RavishRavishRavish
RakeshSinghRakeshSinghRakeshSingh
RaghuRajRaghuRajRaghuRaj
MiteshMiteshMitesh
SumiSumiSumi
HarishHarishHarish
ravikant_sravikant_sravikant_s
RKGuptaRKGuptaRKGupta
1GuestVote1GuestVote1GuestVote

Note: The guest vote is always at the bottom, while in case of Id's, the first voter sits at the bottom of the sequence.
** SD refers to ID Sanatan Dharma in devnagri lipi.

This kind of pattern is mostly observed in AAP party related articles as the troll’s agenda on these forums is to mainly spam. Mostly one or two, at the most three trolls are active here copy pasting abuses of filthiest kind and standard propaganda material (branding AAP as naxalites, leftists, commies, anti capitalism, BJP vote cutter etc) and Down voting and Up voting.
The good Samaritan TrollFixer dealt a massive blow to the trolls. He not only demolished TB but also forced the trolls to change their strategy. For some time since then there was a heavy reduction in down voting of their perceived opponent’s comments. However up voting was active albeit with a different set of ID’s and as ‘Guest’ voters.

Abuses in the form of 'desi galiyans' trickled down but were replaced by religious fundamentalist comments with si91 in the lead.

There is also a consistently sly attempt to play the "ulta chor kotwal ko dante" trick against their perceived rivals specifically AAP supporters branding them as abusive and intolerant.
If you can't beat them malign them seems to be their strategy.
As the elections approach the troll army is bound to swell in numbers and so will their aggressive/abusive posts. With an inkling of these trolls getting support from within FP there is little hope for a meaningful and objective discussion to prevail on the forum.
Also the apprehension that the moderators will not hesitate to impose autocratic policies against genuine commentators is a lurking reality.
This amounts to total hijack of freedom of expression of the common citizens by the very fourth pillar entrusted with guarding it. When the concerned authorities within the system itself indulge in gagging and manipulative techniques, hope for revival of democratic values is doused in the most shocking manner.


The wide spreading apprehension that free and fair media is a myth has begun to appear like reality!

PART 1: DIRTY TROLLING AT FP: LETHARGY OF MODS OR TROLL ALLEGIANCE

Trollfest: THE STRUCTURE AND STRATEGY OF TROLL ARMY AT FP: Creating an Illusion Of Mass Support Base
 
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भारत में लोग कांग्रेस को इसलिए वोट करते हैं क्योंकि वो आलोचनाओं को सुनकर लगातार खुद को बेहतर बनाने का प्रयास करती है।यही कारण है कि भारत के वोटरों ने हमेशा आलोचकों को कुचलने वाली फासीवादी ताकतों को हमेशा सत्ता से दूर रखा है और लोकतान्त्रिक कांग्रेस को चुना है।

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Indian National Congress becomes first party of India to choose its Loksabha candidate through ballot. Guwahati and Kolkatta (North) are the first 2 seats. While Kolkatta seat got unopposed elected Guwahati had voting.

Sh. Manash Bora got the maximum votes in#INCprimaries2014 for #Guwahati the vote distribution is attached in picture.
 
Modi sets conditions, US swallows

New Delhi, Feb. 11: The US made Narendra Modi wait for more than eight years. But in the end, it was the Gujarat chief minister who forced Washington to plead — not once, not twice, but thrice in the past three months before agreeing to terminate a diplomatic spat that began when the US denied Modi a visa in 2005.

US ambassador to India Nancy Powell will meet Modi on Thursday in Gandhinagar, ending America’s boycott of the BJP’s prime ministerial candidate ahead of the Lok Sabha elections where he is widely viewed as a front-runner.

But it is the US embassy here that was eventually made to sweat for the meeting by Modi after a series of tense attempts at ice-breaking that failed, Indian and American officials aware of the details of the outreach have confirmed to The Telegraph.

Modi eventually agreed only to a meet strictly on his terms, the officials said. The location had to be Gandhinagar; the choice of subjects had to be in tune with his national role; and the US had to discomfit his rivals, the Congress-led central government, by obtaining its approval for the meeting even though Modi and Powell could have circumvented the foreign ministry nod.

The US, left alone in its boycott of Modi for the 2002 Gujarat riots after the European Union and Britain made up with him, accepted the conditions.

“He got what he wanted, and he got it exactly the way he wanted,” an official said. “In the end, they (the US) were chasing him.”

Modi first snubbed the US in November, when the American embassy requested a meeting between Powell and him in New Delhi on the margins of a series of rallies he was to hold in the last week of the month leading up to state elections in the capital.

A meeting on the sidelines of a public event would have helped Washington limit the criticism of an about-turn on its human rights concerns that a full-fledged, one-on-one meet would trigger.

It would also eliminate the need for Powell to seek prior approval from the external affairs ministry. The foreign office, under diplomatic protocol, only expects to be consulted for pre-scheduled, one-on-one meetings between foreign diplomats and constitutional office-holders in India. The foreign ministry, officials confirmed, was not told about the attempted November meet.

But Modi refused to meet Powell on the sidelines of any public event in New Delhi, insisting that any meeting take place in his Gandhinagar office.

The US embassy spokesperson hinted at the November attempt at brokering a truce, but did not comment on details.

“This (the February 13 meeting) is a part of our concerted outreach to senior political and business leaders that began in November to highlight the India-US relationship,” the spokesperson told The Telegraph.

The second snub came in December, when US Congresswoman Madeleine Bordallo from Barack Obama’s Democratic Party wanted to meet Modi along with five Republican Congressmen. Republican Congressmen had earlier too met Modi, but the presence of a Democrat was meant to signal a thaw from Obama’s party.

But Modi turned down a meet with the delegation, citing the arrest of diplomat Devyani Khobragade in New York on charges of visa fraud.

The Gujarat government then told the US embassy that Powell would need the foreign ministry’s approval for a meeting with Modi. The US embassy wrote to the foreign ministry in January, officials said.

Although Modi and the Congress leadership have traded vitriolic barbs in election campaigning, the government had no reason to block the meeting, and approved it on February 7, officials said.

When foreign diplomats meet chief ministers, talks usually revolve around investment. But Modi and Powell will talk about India-US relations, in a willing recognition by Washington that he may be Prime Minister in a few months.

Modi’s snubs appear rooted both in the US delay in breaking the ice with him, and in a specific spat in September 2013.

The BJP had invited Powell to attend Modi’s rally in Delhi on September 29, but the US embassy indicated that Powell would not be able to attend the event.

Washington had begun a thaw in ties with Modi that began on November 16, 2010, when then American consul-general in Mumbai Michael Owen met him in Gandhinagar.

But in September, 2013, the US was still contemplating whether to formally signal an end to its boycott --- a message that would need a meeting between Modi and a senior representative of the Obama administration like the American ambassador to India.

The European Union’s top envoy in India and the ambassadors of Italy, Germany, Greece and six other European nations had already met Modi earlier in the year. And in October, British high commissioner James Bevan travelled to Gandhinagar to meet Modi, the highest diplomatic contact between the UK and the chief minister since the riots.

An angry BJP withdrew the September invitation, leaving US officials worried that they may have burnt under-construction bridges with Modi, who had earlier that month been declared the party’s prime ministerial candidate. This Thursday, the reconstruction will start.

Modi sets conditions, US swallows
 
if really BJP has to win 272+ Seat...Modi or BJP has to do something to appeal to South or East...BJP has to really dump Ram Madhir or simillar kind of controversial issues in its chapter for ever...Otherwise, i can see that somehow, in spite of momentum buidling for BJP, they are not able to cross the cut off or thresh hold in most of the East and Southern State...There is a need to talk with different section of Hindu people itself to BJP...if they can not convince all caste of Hindus itself, i am not sure how can they convince to other religion people? I hope they will win...but i can see that challenges are tough in East and South...
 
if really BJP has to win 272+ Seat...Modi or BJP has to do something to appeal to South or East...BJP has to really dump Ram Madhir or simillar kind of controversial issues in its chapter for ever...Otherwise, i can see that somehow, in spite of momentum buidling for BJP, they are not able to cross the cut off or thresh hold in most of the East and Southern State...There is a need to talk with different section of Hindu people itself to BJP...if they can not convince all caste of Hindus itself, i am not sure how can they convince to other religion people? I hope they will win...but i can see that challenges are tough in East and South...

Do You think BJP is fool to talk about Rammandir now? No way. BTW, Rammandir is not an issue or discussion anymore in India i guess.
 
I hope so....But some how...I donot see much traction is happening by BJP at the ground level in Odisha...People like Modi...but these local BJP leaders are not so good..but they are not sure to whom would they vote for as an MP? This is a million dollar question with every ones mind now..
 
I hope so....But some how...I donot see much traction is happening by BJP at the ground level in Odisha...People like Modi...but these local BJP leaders are not so good..but they are not sure to whom would they vote for as an MP? This is a million dollar question with every ones mind now..

I think BJP did make someground in South recently. In Karnataka now it's pretty much 2 party system(BJP and CONG), where JDS has become nominal. This time they do have an alliance in Andhra, hopefully it will add few seats. Tamilanadu is the one where they have 15% vote share in surveys, it can change equation if they have an alliance or some sort of arrangement with DMK( catch is DMK is holding corruption tag now). I dunno much about Orissa.
 
I think BJP did make someground in South recently. In Karnataka now it's pretty much 2 party system(BJP and CONG), where JDS has become nominal. This time they do have an alliance in Andhra, hopefully it will add few seats. Tamilanadu is the one where they have 15% vote share in surveys, it can change equation if they have an alliance or some sort of arrangement with DMK( catch is DMK is holding corruption tag now). I dunno much about Orissa.

You're being extremely optimistic about BJP's prospects in the South bro. Karnataka is the only State where they can make some substantial seat gains, and mind you, JD(S) is still a force to reckon with in many Southern districts of Karnataka. They'll predictably draw a zilch for themselves and 6-7 seats from DMK/MDMK in Tamil Nadu, will be lucky if they win 1-2 seats in Kerala(still unlikely), and at max hope to gain 10 seats from their TDP alliance in Andhra. Not more than 35 seats from the South for NDA this time, if seen in a more realistic light.
 
You're being extremely optimistic about BJP's prospects in the South bro. Karnataka is the only State where they can make some substantial seat gains, and mind you, JD(S) is still a force to reckon with in many Southern districts of Karnataka. They'll predictably draw a zilch for themselves and 6-7 seats from DMK/MDMK in Tamil Nadu, will be lucky if they win 1-2 seats in Kerala(still unlikely), and at max hope to gain 10 seats from their TDP alliance in Andhra. Not more than 35 seats from the South for NDA this time, if seen in a more realistic light.

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Good one bro.
 
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Good one bro.

I feel that DMK is trying to form an alliance with BJP only to try and cash in on the Modi wave and secure a few for themselves in the process. I guess they jolly well know that they're going to be decimated by AIADMK this time.
 
I feel that DMK is trying to form an alliance with BJP only to try and cash in on the Modi wave and secure a few for themselves in the process. I guess they jolly well know that they're going to be decimated by AIADMK this time.

election kab hai yar?
 
election kab hai yar?

It's still 80 days or something :lol:

I feel that DMK is trying to form an alliance with BJP only to try and cash in on the Modi wave and secure a few for themselves in the process. I guess they jolly well know that they're going to be decimated by AIADMK this time.

Yush Amma for PM.

Yenna Rascalas unite!
 
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