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[Star Wars]

See I am not very keen on what the bookies have said regarding Bihar, firstly they got Delhi wrong & secondly many of the smart ones are staying away from Bihar after Delhi & seeing the fact that Bihar is a pollster's nighmare!

But please continue to keep me updated on the rates of the satta market, when I get to know that the smart ones are back in action, I will start believing them

not all of them were wrong, only once in Delhi

https://twitter.com/x/status/654614491456389120

https://twitter.com/x/status/654614723309076480

H
Unlike @saurav I don't believe it, RJD has a stronger org. than the JDU,Cong & even the LJP.

TBH RJD may get single digits, but they will still get more than LJP. LJP is an ally & those who wish to vote for the BJP may not be keen on voting for Paswan's party.

LJP leading over RJD is also coming from multiple political pundits on twitter.

 

[ranjeet]

https://twitter.com/x/status/654646121478754304

 

[JanjaWeed]

The Old guards from the time of Rajiv and Indira Gandhi are very upset with the Rahul and his leadership. There was word going around that loss in BIhar will have severe consequences for Congress...

They are bound to be thrashed in Bihar. If they still keep projecting Pappu.. then they'll be writing their own obituary! I only hope they keep going the way they are right now...

 

[Darmashkian]

BJP document ‘forced’ religious conversion, NGO on par with Maoists
By Ravish Tiwari, ET Bureau | 15 Oct, 2015, 04.57AM IST
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NEW DELHI: The BJP's indoctrination document has identified 'forced' religious conversion and NGOs that receive foreign funds as internal threats the nation faces and has categorised them along with the threat from Maoists.

The document prepared by the central BJP to train 1.5 million cadres from over 100 million party members, recruited from across the country earlier this year, highlights religious conversion as a "serious domestic threat" and a "conspiracy" by Christian and 'Jihadi activities.

"For several years, a conspiracy has been on to disturb the demographic structure of the country through Christian and Jihadi activities thriving with the help from funds and force. This is a serious domestic threat for us," the document said.

"There has been so much religious conversion in some of our states that it has disturbed the d e m o g r a p h i c structure. There is pent-up anger and agitation in such states that can burst out anytime," the document warns, without naming the states.

The document seeks to 'enlighten' BJP cadres on allegations of foreign support for the activities. "Foreign agencies are also involved in religious conversions through the use of finance and muscle power," the document alleged and expressed concern that "forced religious conversions are a serious issue as it threatens to disturb our peace and harmony". The document laments alleged "tacit support" to religious conversion by some political parties in the country.

The government had distanced itself from support to RSS-affiliated organisation's 're-conversion' drive late last year but the inclusion of this point in the ruling party's indoctrination document suggests vigilantism from the saffron ranks against religious conversion.

The BJP indoctrination document frames NGOs receiving funds from foreign donors as another domestic threat before the country.

Document hails Rajnath's recent curbs on NGOs

The BJP training paper highlights Rajnath Singh-led home ministry's crackdown on NGOs as a welcome step by the BJP government.

"There are thousands of NGOs which receive funds from abroad with the sole purpose of disturbing the national ambience and put an obstacle against growth and specially misguide people in tribal regions," the document said.

"Earlier, there were several NGOs which tried to put a spanner against developmental projects which included road, irrigation and mining projects in tribal areas" the document said.

Read more at:
BJP document ‘forced’ religious conversion, NGO on par with Maoists - The Economic Times
@arp2041 @SarthakGanguly @saurav @ranjeet @Marxist @Nair saab @JanjaWeed @magudi
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not all of them were wrong, only once in Delhi

https://twitter.com/x/status/654614491456389120

https://twitter.com/x/status/654614723309076480

LJP leading over RJD is also coming from multiple political pundits on twitter.

Hmm very interesting if the LJP>RJD is coming from multiple pundits, after all phase-1 isn't the RJD's strong point, those areas will come later.
But such news is still quite surprising, I will check & tally this observation with some who I know

& Can you give me the names of some of these pundits??

& Please if chintamani is among that list, please ignore him, that guy is good but his bias always spoils his predictions.
He always over-estimates the numbers for the BJP & hates the most reformist BJP CM around-Vasundhara Raje, one would think she was an Akhilesh Yadav determined to loot & finish Rajasthan by reading his tweets

& regarding those tweets you posted-
The poster is a gujarati supremacist & unnecessarily hates the Shiv Sena,but he is very cunning & smart. This guy must know some peiple very high within the BJP & this govt.

I too will post some tweets from him on Bihar:-

https://twitter.com/x/status/654613359040442368

Bhagwat will talk about reservation again

https://twitter.com/x/status/654251433227718656

Only NiKu is talking about vikas & what he has done & that is when he is bashing Modi:-

https://twitter.com/x/status/654523036306051076

https://twitter.com/x/status/654523615853998080

sssv op Twitter: "@thakkar_sameet Amit bhai doing his best to galvanize the cadres so he will give statements to keep cadres motivated.Bhagwat spoiling it."
sssv op Twitter: "@ShashankMSingh At this point in time,as things stand,a divine intervention can only propel BJP to 110 or above 110. @India_Policy"
sssv op Twitter: "@ShashankMSingh Only one man can turn this game despite all odds,Modi with his aura & blessing of Durga Ma. @India_Policy"
sssv op Twitter: "@ShashankMSingh BJP will carpet bomb Modi on macro level & in villages put up local leaders to counter Bihari v/s bahari @India_Policy"

 

[Star Wars]

Hmm very interesting if the LJP>RJD is coming from multiple pundits, after all phase-1 isn't the RJD's strong point, those areas will come later.
Can you give me the names of some of these pundits?? & Please if chintamani is among that list, please ignore him, that guy is good but his bias always spoils his predictions.

The same guy you linked day before yesterday, the Sachin guy along with several others, illtry to find a link, havn't followed them, no clue who chintamani is... Not to mention also the guy Magudi linked giving similar statements..

& regarding those tweets you posted
The poster is a gujarati supremacist & unnecessarily hates the Shiv Sena, he is very cunning & smart. That guy must know someone very high within the BJP & this govt.

Tbh Gujarati supremacist ????? never heard of that before...,BTW.. even i hate Shiv Sena ...

I will post some tweets from him too on Bihar:-

https://twitter.com/x/status/654613359040442368

Bhagwat will talk about reservation again

https://twitter.com/x/status/654251433227718656

Only NiKu is talking about vikas & what he has done & that is when he is bashing Modi:-

https://twitter.com/x/status/654523036306051076

https://twitter.com/x/status/654523615853998080

sssv op Twitter: "@thakkar_sameet Amit bhai doing his best to galvanize the cadres so he will give statements to keep cadres motivated.Bhagwat spoiling it."
sssv op Twitter: "@ShashankMSingh At this point in time,as things stand,a divine intervention can only propel BJP to 110 or above 110. @India_Policy"
sssv op Twitter: "@ShashankMSingh Only one man can turn this game despite all odds,Modi with his aura & blessing of Durga Ma. @India_Policy"
sssv op Twitter: "@ShashankMSingh BJP will carpet bomb Modi on macro level & in villages put up local leaders to counter Bihari v/s bahari @India_Policy"

He along with several others is overplaying the reservation card. Giving a difference of 15-20 seats just over MB talking of reservation is pretty much ridicules.


BTW, go check Sachin's latest prediction...

 

[Darmashkian]

The same guy you linked day before yesterday, the Sachin guy along with several others, illtry to find a link, havn't followed them, no clue who chintamani is... Not to mention also the guy Magudi linked giving similar statements..



Tbh Gujarati supremacist sounds like a load of BS...,BTW.. even i hate Shiv Sena ...


He along with several others is overplaying the reservation card. Giving a difference of 15-20 seats just over MB talking of reservation is pretty much ridicules.

I have linked so many guys here , kay I will check those tweets & the postsers.

Yep he is one, I have been following this profile & his last 2 ones for more than 18 months,man !! This guy in his last profile was the 2nd one (other than chanakya)who I knew who gave 272+ to the BJP, that's how I remember him!!

Also he bashed saswati sarkar quite a lot back then, still does today

By the way I love the Sainiks, they rock THey sure know how to irritate someone though their leadership isn't that great & sanjay raut has to go.

& the reservation card is working , it;s taking away the votes of the OBCs & some EBCs & SCs. SUch statements matter a lot!! People are now thinking that the RSS is anti-BCs & SCs & BJP is RSS ka chamcha!
[& 90s is in the worst case, he is still optimistic that the BJP can reach 100 seats.]

Many cadre are disappointed with such statements, you can trust me on this one. SUch statements hurt their chances in a backward state such as Bihar, very caste is involved in many angles & especially reservation.

 

[Star Wars]

I have linked so many guys here , kay I will check those tweets & the postsers.

Yep he is one, I have been following this profile & his last 2 ones for more than 18 months,man !! This guy in his last profile was the 2nd one (other than chanakya)who I knew who gave 272+ to the BJP, that's how I remember him!!

Also he bashed saswati sarkar quite a lot back then, still does today

By the way I love the Sainiks, they rock THey sure know how to irritate someone though their leadership isn't that great & sanjay raut has to go.

& the reservation card is working , it;s taking away the votes of the OBCs & some EBCs & SCs. SUch statements matter a lot!! People are now thinking that the RSS is anti-BCs & SCs & BJP is RSS ka chamcha!
[& 90s is in the worst case, he is still optimistic that the BJP can reach 100 seats.]

Many cadre are disappointed with such statements, you can trust me on this one. SUch statements hurt their chances in a backward state such as Bihar, very caste is involved in many angles & especially reservation.

Hmm, contradictory .. Sachin is saying there will be Delhi like results on Nov 8, then he follows it up by saying "MGB not winning" . If its is Delhi like result in favor of BJP, then the reservation card won;t make any difference...

I have spoken to some of my Bihari friends, some of them have not even heard of Mohan Bhagwat..

 

[Darmashkian]

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Hmm, contradictory .. Sachin is saying there will be Delhi like results on Nov 8, then he follows it up by saying "MGB not winning" . IF its is Delhi like result in favor of BJP, then the reservation card won;t make any difference...

@Star Wars
MY Bihari friends & Contacts are saying it matters(the JDUone who I dislike is gleeful with joy on hearing it) -_- , or better why doesn't someone else ask @jha ji ?? We both know him & how knowledgeable he is.

Let him say how much it matters in the long run.

& regarding Mohan Bhagwat, don't worry the MGB is taking his words all over Bihar.. worse part is BJP can't even say his statements were misquoted or wrong.

Mohan Bhagwat's statements matter & especially when he has said it not once but twice.

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Chill every professional psephologist is going mad over Bihar , almost all of them have made U-turns then even the budding ones like Sachin Reddy will also be suffering through the same, right? [Though he won't admit it ]

Umm, when did he make a U-turn ? he has been sticking to his stand for a while now... If BIhar BJP is predicting 22-24 seats, then i am pretty damn sure reservation has not made a dent.

 

[Darmashkian]

Umm, when did he make a U-turn ? he has been sticking to his stand for a while now... If BIhar BJP is predicting 22-24 seats, then i am pretty damn sure reservation has not made a dent.

Boss read his predictions yesterday on what the JDU,Cong. & RJD guys who he knows are predicting for themselves

If you add up what all these 3 parties predict, BJP will be somewhere about 12-15(from what I remember). Even Congis are saying they can easily win 5 seats here
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Every party if you ask me overestimated their predictions, if Bihar BJP is talking about 22-24. then the reality must be lesser than that.

 

[Star Wars]

@Star Wars
MY Bihari friends & Contacts are saying it matters(the JDUone who I dislike is gleeful with joy on hearing it) -_- , or better why doesn't someone else ask @jha ji ?? We both know him & how knowledgeable he is.

Let him say how much it matters in the long run.

& regarding Mohan Bhagwat, don't worry the MGB is taking his words all over Bihar.. worse part is BJP can't even say his statements were misquoted or wrong.

Mohan Bhagwat's statements matter & especially when he has said it not once but twice.

@jha will probably have a better idea, one reason people don't express their opinions in BIhar is due to the RJD goondaism. Apparently, that was also plastered in local news papers after a woman and his son was attacked.

Boss read his predictions yesterday on what the JDU,Cong. & RJD guys who he knows are predicting for themselves

If you add up what all these 3 parties predict, BJP will be somewhere about 12-15(from what I remember). Even Congis are saying they can easily win 5 seats here

BJP getting 15 is quiet good, if LJP can get 6-7 more seats then that should be more than enough. Some of the BJP insiders were predicting 30+ for NDA, when BJP BIhar itself is predicting around 23 and that is confirmed....

IF BJP Bihar is itself expecting 23 and if it does come somewhere close then reservation has not made an impact

firstpost comments section is one of the worst places ever...

 

[Darmashkian]

@jha will probably have a better idea, one reason people don't express their opinions in BIhar is due to the RJD goondaism. Apparently, that was also plastered in local news papers after a woman and his son was attacked.



BJP getting 15 is quiet good, if LJP can get 6-7 more seats then that should be more than enough. Some of the BJP insiders were predicting 30+ for NDA, when BJP BIhar itself is predicting around 23...

I've said the bolded part 3-4 times till now on this forum Nobody reads my posts ,

& mark my words, that attack has a lot of potential--the potential to change this election provided the BJP takes it almost all over Bihar.

Yep, getting 15 is good in a MGB stronghold, the only concern is the allies whom many in the BJP believe have failed.

LJP can do well, RLSP is turning out to be a dud, Manjhi;s HAM also threatens to do bad!! He himself is facing a tough fight in one seat & a fight which could be tough in another .

About aarakshan I say we stop wasting our time on it & see whether it matters in the next few phases or not.

& why do you dislike the FP comments section?? Isn;t it dominated by BJP guys?[/QUOTE]

 

[Star Wars]

I've said the bolded part 3-4 times till now on this forum Nobody reads my posts ,

& mark my words, that attack has a lot of potential--the potential to change this election provided the BJP takes it almost all over Bihar.

Yep, getting 15 is good in a MGB stronghold, the only concern is the allies whom many in the BJP believe have failed.

LJP can do well, RLSP is turning out to be a dud, Manjhi;s HAM also threatens to do bad!! He himself is facing a tough fight in one seat & a fight which could be tough in another .

About aarakshan I say we stop wasting our time on it & see whether it matters in the next few phases or not.

& why do you dislike the FP comments section?? Isn;t it dominated by BJP guys?

FP comments sections is dominated with trolls, the amount of smugness, hatred and negativism which goes in there is mind boggling.. I have heard good thing about LJP and yes BJP has been parading the "beating" incident all over Bihar.
As for Manji, not much hopes for him. tomorrow everything will be clear on who will win.

 

[Darmashkian]

@Josef K

https://twitter.com/x/status/654645999781064704

Awesome comparison! NiKu would die like neelambari than come to a truce with Modi or be in gratitude of him

That was from Pathanamthitta segment,not kottayam...He was kicked out from the list because of strong opposition from the sangaparivar groups,specially RSS(Though pathanamthitta has around 50% Christian population,and he has good image among public)...
I have only voted for CPM/CPI in my life(because local CPI MLA is our family friend)..
hehe..Meeku Malayali mithrulu unnaara??..meeru yekkada pani chesthunaaru??or Chaduvuthunaara??nenu Bangalore lo pani chesthuna company lo chala telegu mithrulu unnaaru..Naaku Telugu konchem vachchu,kani mathtaadaniki kastham,nenu try chesthanu..

Nenu Hyderabad lo chadukunthuna. Nenu ippududu paddenimidi sanvatsaralu unna.

Koncham malayali mitrulu naa college lo unnaru(B.Tech), koncham ma 11th,12th class ninchi nenu ippudu daka contact lo unna

FP comments sections is dominated with trolls, the amount of smugness, hatred and negativism which goes in there is mind boggling.. I have heard good thing about LJP and yes BJP has been parading the "beating" incident all over Bihar.
As for Manji, not much hopes for him. tomorrow everything will be clear on who will win.

RLSP is unable to consolidate Kushwaha votes in the first place! Atleast Manjhi is getting some Mahadalits & most of the musahar votes. Many Kushwahas are still going to vote for MGB because of NiKu +tickets given to them..

Worst of all, the hero in the RLSP is happily selling tickets for money & filling his pockets & that too before the govt. is formed.

 

[Star Wars]

@Josef K

https://twitter.com/x/status/654645999781064704

Awesome comparison! NiKu would die like neelambari than come to a truce with Modi or be in gratitude of him


Nenu Hyderabad lo chadukunthuna. Nenu ippududu paddenimidi sanvatsaralu unna.

Koncham malayali mitrulu naa college lo unnaru(B.Tech), koncham ma 11th,12th class ninchi nenu ippudu daka contact lo unna


RLSP is unable to consolidate Kushwaha votes in the first place! Atleast Manjhi is getting some Mahadalits & most of the musahar votes. Many Kushwahas are still going to vote for MGB because of NiKu +tickets given to them..

Worst of all, the hero in the RLSP is happily selling tickets for money & filling his pockets & that too before the govt. is formed.

Nitish is an idiot, he is going to loose because of RJD and Congress, NItish will have a strike rate of 50 -60% but Lalubarely has any support. People are not even attending his rallies. He would have had a far better chance if he had stood alone and fought in all of the 243 seats. Giving away 100 seats to Lalu was suicude.