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It is happening,Many Shankaracharyas and Temple boards are coming to form a united Hindu temple board,the Government then cannot say No to them.
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Also RTE discrimination against schools run by majority community should end asap i don't know what the hell lady irani is doing instead of fixing it
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All will happen bro, but first let us get the temples out of Governments grip, then we will have the funds to pursue charity work and give a befitting reply to these Evangelists and Mullahs.
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Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), Central Office, New Delhi on the burning issue of `Land Acquisition Ordinance, 2014’has issued a press statement today, stating “This time you are wrong Mr. Anna Hazare”. The press release reads as under:”
• We respect Anna for his agitation against Corruption.
• But in present case, it appears that Anna Hazare has fallen in the hands of those international forces who want to keep India under-developed-Medha patkar opposed Narmada dam also
• These elements encouraged similar agitations and still doing in the name of environment-stalling various projects. As if Indians don’t care for environment and don’t know how to make a balance.
• They keep maligning India on International forums in the name of Human rights and civil liberties;
• Now in the name of land Acquisition-that too ill-informed opinion, or deliberate twisting
• Anna is failing to understand that Farmers’ sons and daughters now want modern amenities and jobs
• They want to work not on fields but on infrastructure projects, manufacturing and service units
• Can he stop this change-from rural to urban orientation, from foot-walk to motor driving??
• If such opportunities are not created who suffers-the common man only. Not big people.
Will Anna Hazare reply?
• Is a school or hospital not the need of a farmer? Does his crop not require a road to reach market?
• Can it be made without land; can Government create land to build roads?
• The land on which he is sitting on Dharna, must have belonged to some farmer at some point of time
• The road he came from Palwal must have been made on the land of a large number of farmers
• Does he not use a train or airport-which are all made on the lands which were acquired from farmers.
• Anna should first commit that he will not move on anything which has been made on acquired land
What is the land acquisition Ordinance of NDA Government
• The ordinance does not even touch the compensation part-It’s the same
• The ordinance also doesn’t touch the R & R provisions-they remain the same
• Thus, the Compensation and R & R provisions have not been diluted even a bit.
• In fact, the ordinance has brought under this provision of enhanced compensation even those acquisitions which are done by and through other 13 central Acts Like Railways Act, National highway Act etc. UPA Government did not do so…
• The earstwhile Act of 2013 was a political gimmick of UPA just to get votes and not to benefit the farmer community. -Why did they not do it in seventy years after independence? Why it came in 2013?
• Under the 2013 Act, the procedure has been made so clumsy that it will take seven to eight years to finalise a land acquisition proceeding.-does it not have a cost? Cost over-run is paid from public money only.
• Also, till then the said land will remain unused-both by the farmer and the acquiring agency
• Why will the farmer invest in this land if he knows that it will be acquired even the end of a long process
Who benefits from the UPA’s Act of 2013
• The beneficiary of the 2013 Act is the bureaucracy and the middlemen
• Everyone knows that getting the consent of 80% land owners is not feasible
• What if 79% give the consent. Shoukld the proposal fail just because of 1% who become decisive?
• Everyone knows that it is not possible to get consent of all through Public hearing
• But if there are middlemen they can mediate in all this.
• In case of Public projects like schools, hospitals, roads etc who will do this
• If Assembly and parliament can run on 50%+1 majority, why this 80% requirement for public projects? This is done just to keep the country where it is and reap political benefits in election.
• The Social Impact assessment has not been done away with by the ordinance. It has been left at the discretion of the competent Government to apply it.
Benefits of the Ordinance
• Farmers get remunerative prices and the value of the land is unlocked fast instead going through a long process
• People of backward areas also get acess to modern infrastructure and amenities
• Employment gets generated; livelihoods created
• Farmers get what they deserve; country gets development which it badly needs
• Country cannot be kept hostage by opportunist politicians like those in UPA
• The youth of this country who is your strength, is waiting for modern amenities-it can’t happen without land-Mr. Anna you are doing injustice with the country, its youth and its people
No one knew Anna & Party can lie so blatantly
They have been wrongly projecting these issues…
• The ordinance has not touched the provisions of Compensation-It remains the same as in 2013 Act. but Anna & party is misguiding everyone that compensation has been reduced
• In fact, the ordinance enables the farmers to get the same higher compensation in case the land is acquired under any of the 13 central Acts.
• The ordinance does not take away the right of the affected farmer to go in court- but Anna & party is talking as if such right has been taken away
• The provisions of Social Impact Assessment (SIA) & Consent clause have not been done away with- the ordinance has only delegated it to the respective state governments. This is in true spirit of federalism. It is wrong to say that ordinance removes these provisions all together.
• Anna & party is creating an impression that the ordinance was passed to benefit the corporates. –This is wrong.
• In fact, Hospitals, schools, affordable housing specially for the poor, rural infrastructure including electrification, infrastructure including social infrastructure, national Security & defence projects and industrial corridors are the only exemptions made for SIA and consent clause that too with further discretion of the appropriate Government.
• All such projects are mostly done by the Government and not by corporate. The only enabler is made for PPP projects where land ownership remains with the Government. Everyone knows that schools, hospitals etc are coming up in PPP mode.
• Another mis-information is being spread with regard to lapse of the Acquisition proceedings after five years in caompensation was not paid or possession was not taken- the ordinance only says that in cases where there is a court stay, or a tribunal award or where the money is already deposited in the treasury, such period will not be counted in five years.
• The then State Governments of Maharashtra, Kerala, Delhi, Haryana, UP had specifically requested to extend the period of return of acquired land from five years to a longer period. However, instead of extending it in a blanket way, the ordinance has left it on the nature of project for which the land is being acquired. Thus, on case to case basis, the period has to be specified for setting up the project. After that the land will revert to the farmer.
• It is being projected that no consultation was done in this regard. In fact, most of the CMs, including those of congress have made representation that the Land Acquisition Act passed by the UPA Govt makes development impossible.
• On 27th June, 2014, the Union Minister of Rural Development (Mr. Nitin Gadakari) held discussion with representatives of 32 State Govts & UTs at Vigyan Bhavan. This included State revenue Ministers and officials. During this consultation even more far reaching amendments were suggested which include changing the definition of affected family, provisions on R & R, food security etc. However, the NDA Government has taken a pragmatic and pro-poor stand only while bringing out the amendment.
Congress wants to keep the country Backward. But some congressmen had their conscience
Look what the then Congress CMs and Governments have said on the 2013 Act…
Kerala:
• Obtaining consent of land owners prior to preliminary notification is a herculean task as the identification of land owners at such initial stages may pose a problem.
• Social Impact Assessment study should be compulsory; it should be conducted only for larger projects. The process is time consuming and escalates the cost of small projects substantially.
Haryana:
• Under PPP Projects, ownership of lands vests with the Government. Therefore, the consent requirement should be done away with or it should be brought down to 50%.
Karnataka:
• Social Impact Study should be compulsory only for large projects.
Maharashtra went a step further…
• The then Maharashtra’s Congress Govt in August 2014 eventually lowered the compensation from 4 times the market value to 2.2 times the market value (notification attached). Surprising to find that people who are opposing it now did not oppose this step by the Maharashtra Govt.
Other States/CMs had a similar view:
UP
• Section 24 (2), retrospective application of the Act is a problematic one. This may be re-examined, specially as it is creating problem in certain cases where acquisition was done for defence purposes. The provision of opening cases of 5 years back is not practicable.
West Bengal
• In the time between enforcement of the Act (01.01.14) and final publication of the Rules, cushion should be provided to ongoing cases of land acquisition under Section 24 so that they do not lapse. “
• We respect Anna for his agitation against Corruption.
• But in present case, it appears that Anna Hazare has fallen in the hands of those international forces who want to keep India under-developed-Medha patkar opposed Narmada dam also
• These elements encouraged similar agitations and still doing in the name of environment-stalling various projects. As if Indians don’t care for environment and don’t know how to make a balance.
• They keep maligning India on International forums in the name of Human rights and civil liberties;
• Now in the name of land Acquisition-that too ill-informed opinion, or deliberate twisting
• Anna is failing to understand that Farmers’ sons and daughters now want modern amenities and jobs
• They want to work not on fields but on infrastructure projects, manufacturing and service units
• Can he stop this change-from rural to urban orientation, from foot-walk to motor driving??
• If such opportunities are not created who suffers-the common man only. Not big people.
Will Anna Hazare reply?
• Is a school or hospital not the need of a farmer? Does his crop not require a road to reach market?
• Can it be made without land; can Government create land to build roads?
• The land on which he is sitting on Dharna, must have belonged to some farmer at some point of time
• The road he came from Palwal must have been made on the land of a large number of farmers
• Does he not use a train or airport-which are all made on the lands which were acquired from farmers.
• Anna should first commit that he will not move on anything which has been made on acquired land
What is the land acquisition Ordinance of NDA Government
• The ordinance does not even touch the compensation part-It’s the same
• The ordinance also doesn’t touch the R & R provisions-they remain the same
• Thus, the Compensation and R & R provisions have not been diluted even a bit.
• In fact, the ordinance has brought under this provision of enhanced compensation even those acquisitions which are done by and through other 13 central Acts Like Railways Act, National highway Act etc. UPA Government did not do so…
• The earstwhile Act of 2013 was a political gimmick of UPA just to get votes and not to benefit the farmer community. -Why did they not do it in seventy years after independence? Why it came in 2013?
• Under the 2013 Act, the procedure has been made so clumsy that it will take seven to eight years to finalise a land acquisition proceeding.-does it not have a cost? Cost over-run is paid from public money only.
• Also, till then the said land will remain unused-both by the farmer and the acquiring agency
• Why will the farmer invest in this land if he knows that it will be acquired even the end of a long process
Who benefits from the UPA’s Act of 2013
• The beneficiary of the 2013 Act is the bureaucracy and the middlemen
• Everyone knows that getting the consent of 80% land owners is not feasible
• What if 79% give the consent. Shoukld the proposal fail just because of 1% who become decisive?
• Everyone knows that it is not possible to get consent of all through Public hearing
• But if there are middlemen they can mediate in all this.
• In case of Public projects like schools, hospitals, roads etc who will do this
• If Assembly and parliament can run on 50%+1 majority, why this 80% requirement for public projects? This is done just to keep the country where it is and reap political benefits in election.
• The Social Impact assessment has not been done away with by the ordinance. It has been left at the discretion of the competent Government to apply it.
Benefits of the Ordinance
• Farmers get remunerative prices and the value of the land is unlocked fast instead going through a long process
• People of backward areas also get acess to modern infrastructure and amenities
• Employment gets generated; livelihoods created
• Farmers get what they deserve; country gets development which it badly needs
• Country cannot be kept hostage by opportunist politicians like those in UPA
• The youth of this country who is your strength, is waiting for modern amenities-it can’t happen without land-Mr. Anna you are doing injustice with the country, its youth and its people
No one knew Anna & Party can lie so blatantly
They have been wrongly projecting these issues…
• The ordinance has not touched the provisions of Compensation-It remains the same as in 2013 Act. but Anna & party is misguiding everyone that compensation has been reduced
• In fact, the ordinance enables the farmers to get the same higher compensation in case the land is acquired under any of the 13 central Acts.
• The ordinance does not take away the right of the affected farmer to go in court- but Anna & party is talking as if such right has been taken away
• The provisions of Social Impact Assessment (SIA) & Consent clause have not been done away with- the ordinance has only delegated it to the respective state governments. This is in true spirit of federalism. It is wrong to say that ordinance removes these provisions all together.
• Anna & party is creating an impression that the ordinance was passed to benefit the corporates. –This is wrong.
• In fact, Hospitals, schools, affordable housing specially for the poor, rural infrastructure including electrification, infrastructure including social infrastructure, national Security & defence projects and industrial corridors are the only exemptions made for SIA and consent clause that too with further discretion of the appropriate Government.
• All such projects are mostly done by the Government and not by corporate. The only enabler is made for PPP projects where land ownership remains with the Government. Everyone knows that schools, hospitals etc are coming up in PPP mode.
• Another mis-information is being spread with regard to lapse of the Acquisition proceedings after five years in caompensation was not paid or possession was not taken- the ordinance only says that in cases where there is a court stay, or a tribunal award or where the money is already deposited in the treasury, such period will not be counted in five years.
• The then State Governments of Maharashtra, Kerala, Delhi, Haryana, UP had specifically requested to extend the period of return of acquired land from five years to a longer period. However, instead of extending it in a blanket way, the ordinance has left it on the nature of project for which the land is being acquired. Thus, on case to case basis, the period has to be specified for setting up the project. After that the land will revert to the farmer.
• It is being projected that no consultation was done in this regard. In fact, most of the CMs, including those of congress have made representation that the Land Acquisition Act passed by the UPA Govt makes development impossible.
• On 27th June, 2014, the Union Minister of Rural Development (Mr. Nitin Gadakari) held discussion with representatives of 32 State Govts & UTs at Vigyan Bhavan. This included State revenue Ministers and officials. During this consultation even more far reaching amendments were suggested which include changing the definition of affected family, provisions on R & R, food security etc. However, the NDA Government has taken a pragmatic and pro-poor stand only while bringing out the amendment.
Congress wants to keep the country Backward. But some congressmen had their conscience
Look what the then Congress CMs and Governments have said on the 2013 Act…
Kerala:
• Obtaining consent of land owners prior to preliminary notification is a herculean task as the identification of land owners at such initial stages may pose a problem.
• Social Impact Assessment study should be compulsory; it should be conducted only for larger projects. The process is time consuming and escalates the cost of small projects substantially.
Haryana:
• Under PPP Projects, ownership of lands vests with the Government. Therefore, the consent requirement should be done away with or it should be brought down to 50%.
Karnataka:
• Social Impact Study should be compulsory only for large projects.
Maharashtra went a step further…
• The then Maharashtra’s Congress Govt in August 2014 eventually lowered the compensation from 4 times the market value to 2.2 times the market value (notification attached). Surprising to find that people who are opposing it now did not oppose this step by the Maharashtra Govt.
Other States/CMs had a similar view:
UP
• Section 24 (2), retrospective application of the Act is a problematic one. This may be re-examined, specially as it is creating problem in certain cases where acquisition was done for defence purposes. The provision of opening cases of 5 years back is not practicable.
West Bengal
• In the time between enforcement of the Act (01.01.14) and final publication of the Rules, cushion should be provided to ongoing cases of land acquisition under Section 24 so that they do not lapse. “
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Baat maat Badal,free wifi kaha hai joh promise kiya tha Kejru nee
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Rahul Gandhi, Currently on Leave, to be Made Congress President in April: Sources
Congratulations...next stage of Congress mukht Bharat begins in April!
Congratulations...next stage of Congress mukht Bharat begins in April!
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Reservations needs to be scrapped ASAP,they are destroying what's left of the Hindu Society
Rahul Gandhi, Currently on Leave, to be Made Congress President in April: Sources
Congratulations...next stage of Congress mukht Bharat begins in April!
Looks like Cong is well on it's way to become history
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BHAKTS MUST ANSWER
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It is easy to promsie freebies and deliver freebies. Kejri is not worried if the govt runs out of money, bcoz he doesnt care.
Giving free stuff is easy, as long it is not yours. I have one questions to you.
WHERE WILL THE MONEY COME FROM TO FUND THE FREE STUFF ?
He said 15 lacs to poor people. Now everybody wants to be to poor.
I dont need govt's free stuff or cash. I am not a dumb aaptard. I know how economy works.
BHAKTS MUST ANSWER
Giving free stuff is easy, as long it is not yours. I have one questions to you.
WHERE WILL THE MONEY COME FROM TO FUND THE FREE STUFF ?
He said 15 lacs to poor people. Now everybody wants to be to poor.
I dont need govt's free stuff or cash. I am not a dumb aaptard. I know how economy works.
Wow questioning an anti corruption crusader like Anna now are we?
Don't know how feku can stoop so low as to call the role model and heart throbe of millions of youth across the country a lier!!
Pathetic
Not to mention he's a fatherly figure for our muffler man
This time feku propaganda won't work
Feku is on pay roll from adani to grab poor farmers land and give it to Ambani then push then into suicide!
But we will not allow it. This time farmers shall unite and fascists will be tamed. All fake ordinances will be toppled
Bhakats shall sit and watch
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Fake news like feku promises
Every child know India today is bjp mouth piece
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What's wrong in it? Is that a sin?
Mangalore Church Attacked Days After PM's Remarks on Religious Tolerance
^atleast we are not burning down churches after coming to power like sanghis do
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