Indian Navy has questions on China’s new aircraft carrier Fujian

[FairAndUnbiased]

Yes, it's real.

North Korea could probably defeat India tbh. North Korea has ICBMs and proven H bomb capability with 200 kT miniaturized warheads. Indian ICBMs can't even reach North Korea and if they could they only have 20 kT large warheads.

 

[xyxmt]

That was far from a positive contribution. If you can't say something of common interest, please butt out.

who told you this forum is for positive contribution. please go to a mandir

 

[Daniel808]

It's too hard to explain such high-tech to some IQ 82 SUPAPAWA

No no no, Not 82.

But 72

 

[MH.Yang]

If Indians choose to buy F18, we will see flankers(J-15T) take off with ejection and F18 take off with jump.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

J-15 is a stolen design and unlicensed Chinese development based on a T-10K-3 prototype of the Russian Su-33 Flanker-D. It has a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 33 tons and an external payload of 6.5 tons. There are conflicting reports of the J-15 design being flawed, resulting in four known and multiple unknown crashes. WS-10H engines are unreliable compared to original Russian Salyut AL-31F engines. It is confirmed that unstable flight control systems were the key factor behind the at least two fatal accidents couple of years ago.

The J-15 may not be capable of taking off from the Liaoning or Shandong’s ski jump with full MTOW. The J-15’s MTOW depends on carrier speeds, which in turn generates headwinds. Though China claims that at the aircraft carrier’s operational speed of 28 knots, the J-15 can take off at 28-33 tons, and even at a slower speed of 20 knots, the weight is 31 tons, there is no way of substantiating these claims.

believe me. The "super invisible MIG 29K" assembled in India is better.

 

[etylo]

J-15 is a stolen design and unlicensed Chinese development based on a T-10K-3 prototype of the Russian Su-33 Flanker-D. It has a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 33 tons and an external payload of 6.5 tons. There are conflicting reports of the J-15 design being flawed, resulting in four known and multiple unknown crashes. WS-10H engines are unreliable compared to original Russian Salyut AL-31F engines. It is confirmed that unstable flight control systems were the key factor behind the at least two fatal accidents couple of years ago.

The J-15 may not be capable of taking off from the Liaoning or Shandong’s ski jump with full MTOW. The J-15’s MTOW depends on carrier speeds, which in turn generates headwinds. Though China claims that at the aircraft carrier’s operational speed of 28 knots, the J-15 can take off at 28-33 tons, and even at a slower speed of 20 knots, the weight is 31 tons, there is no way of substantiating these claims.

Every tech Chinese got is stolen from your daddys whitemen simply becos you are jealousy that Indians can't make literally any tech products.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

Every tech Chinese got is stolen from your daddys whitemen simply becos you are jealousy that Indians can't make literally any tech products.

What are you questioning??

Indians can assemble the world's only "super invisible MIG 29K"... The world's only. applause!!!

@Scorpio-N This is 60 years of aircraft carrier experience... congratulate!

 

[Hellfire2006]

North Korea could probably defeat India tbh. North Korea has ICBMs and proven H bomb capability with 200 kT miniaturized warheads. Indian ICBMs can't even reach North Korea and if they could they only have 20 kT large warheads.

India does possess H bombs. Various tests on the design were run through simulations on supercomputers to validate the effectiveness. Indian arsenal comprises if anything between 15kt-200kt nuclear designs. The test in 1998 was a scaled down version of an H bomb ( some argue it was a boosted fission weapon) with a yield deliberately kept below 60Kt. India didnt carry out more tests due to the clause in indo us nuclear deal that states all nuclear commercial activities will be suspended upon resumption of nuclear tests.india is in possesion of Agni V ICBM. Chinese analysts say it has a range of 8000km

 

[MH.Yang]

India does possess H bombs. Various tests on the design were run through simulations on supercomputers to validate the effectiveness. Indian arsenal comprises if anything between 15kt-200kt nuclear designs. The test in 1998 was a scaled down version of an H bomb ( some argue it was a boosted fission weapon) with a yield deliberately kept below 60Kt. India didnt carry out more tests due to the clause in indo us nuclear deal that states all nuclear commercial activities will be suspended upon resumption of nuclear tests.india is in possesion of Agni V ICBM. Chinese analysts say it has a range of 8000km

Agni-V - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

1. Agni 5 has a range of 5000 km.

2. Agni 5 is not an ICBM. The threshold of ICBM is 8000+ km.

3. Agni 5 has only one guidance mode and almost no anti-interference ability.

4. India has no nuclear weapon miniaturization technology and cannot launch nuclear weapons with missiles.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

1. Agni-5 uses a three-stage solid-fueled engine which is likely to be able to eliminate strategic targets at ranges as far as 5,500-8,000 km with pinpoint accuracy

2. It is said to have an effective range of 8000 km, covering entire China and could hit targets far into the Pacific as well

3. "CEP" of Chinese ICBMs are horrible as compared to India's Agni series missiles

4. The centrepiece of a host of new technologies incorporated in Agni 5/Agni 3/Agni Prime is its ring laser gyroscope and accelerometer. The ring laser gyroscope was tested and integrated by the Research Centre Imarat (RCI) based in Hyderabad

China urges India to stick to UNSC resolution to refrain from engaging in nuclear tests: FM - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

West jumps on India’s launch of Agni-5 to stoke regional ‘arms race’ - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

India is an illegal nuclear-armed country like North Korea. India's testing and development of nuclear weapons is a serious violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. China is right to warn India.

of course. India does not have ICBMs（10000km +）. This is beyond India's capabilities.

 

[siegecrossbow]

J-15 is a stolen design and unlicensed Chinese development based on a T-10K-3 prototype of the Russian Su-33 Flanker-D. It has a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 33 tons and an external payload of 6.5 tons. There are conflicting reports of the J-15 design being flawed, resulting in four known and multiple unknown crashes. WS-10H engines are unreliable compared to original Russian Salyut AL-31F engines. It is confirmed that unstable flight control systems were the key factor behind the at least two fatal accidents couple of years ago.

The J-15 may not be capable of taking off from the Liaoning or Shandong’s ski jump with full MTOW. The J-15’s MTOW depends on carrier speeds, which in turn generates headwinds. Though China claims that at the aircraft carrier’s operational speed of 28 knots, the J-15 can take off at 28-33 tons, and even at a slower speed of 20 knots, the weight is 31 tons, there is no way of substantiating these claims.

Update: China's Liaoning sorties more than 100 aircraft near Japan, Taiwan

The aircraft carrier Liaoning of China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) navy flew more than 100 sorties in six days in a series of drills near Japan and Taiwan.

www.janes.com

 

[Hellfire2006]

Agni-V - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

1. Agni 5 has a range of 5000 km.

Your own chinese analysts say it's 8000km

Agni-V's range is 8,000 km: Chinese expert - News18

Du Wenlong, a researcher at Chinese military academy, said that the Agni-V actually has the potential to reach targets 8,000 km away.

www.news18.com

2. Agni 5 is not an ICBM. The threshold of ICBM is 8000+ km.

The threshold is 5,500km, a missile as big as Agni V can easily reach 8,000km. India deliberately downplayed the range to avoid raising western suspicion.

3. Agni 5 has only one guidance mode and almost no anti-interference ability.

No sir
It has Ring laser gyroscope inertial navigation system. Optionally augmented by GPS/NavIC satellite guidance.
It's coming with advanced chip-embedded guidance system

Agni-V — guidance on chip

Responding to my earlier blog on the advanced chip-embedded guidance system successfuly tested on Agni-V, an expert at the cutting edge of these technologies emailed me the following. It will flesh…

bharatkarnad.com

4. India has no nuclear weapon miniaturization technology and cannot launch nuclear weapons with missiles.

What ! Where's the Proof ? Is india stupid to develop strategic missiles but not being able to miniaturise the warhead ? This is a laughable claim. Are you trying to be comedic or what ?

India is an illegal nuclear-armed country like North Korea. India's testing and development of nuclear weapons is a serious violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. China is right to warn India.

ok , but what can china do about it ? Will china denuclearise india ? Why dosen't china invade india to disarm india's WMDs ? A superpower like the Great PRC must be able to do that

 

[VkdIndian]

Entire China was on PDF asking questions about Indian Aircraft Carrier‘s perceived design deficiencies. Each one of them had nothing but scorn for India and anything made in India.

Its lovely to see them crying like babies on this thread. Because someone has pointed out deficiencies in their carrier?

China did copy from western powers but it is still far away from getting it right. Suck it up and accept it.

 

[redtom]

I think based on the past performance of the Indian Navy, if they question you, then you are right. If they praise you, make sure you check your mistakes.

 

[MH.Yang]

Your own chinese analysts say it's 8000km

Agni-V's range is 8,000 km: Chinese expert - News18

Du Wenlong, a researcher at Chinese military academy, said that the Agni-V actually has the potential to reach targets 8,000 km away.

www.news18.com

The threshold is 5,500km, a missile as big as Agni V can easily reach 8,000km. India deliberately downplayed the range to avoid raising western suspicion.

No sir
It has Ring laser gyroscope inertial navigation system. Optionally augmented by GPS/NavIC satellite guidance.
It's coming with advanced chip-embedded guidance system

Agni-V — guidance on chip

Responding to my earlier blog on the advanced chip-embedded guidance system successfuly tested on Agni-V, an expert at the cutting edge of these technologies emailed me the following. It will flesh…

bharatkarnad.com

What ! Where's the Proof ? Is india stupid to develop strategic missiles but not being able to miniaturise the warhead ? This is a laughable claim. Are you trying to be comedic or what ?

ok , but what can china do about it ? Will china denuclearise india ? Why dosen't china invade india to disarm india's WMDs ? A superpower like the Great PRC must be able to do that

1, You can Google to see if there are any reports that India has obtained nuclear weapon miniaturization technology. None.

2, Indian media spread rumors. Du Wenlong's original words are: India's Agni 5 missile has a range of only 5000 kilometers, but it does not reach 8000 kilometers, so it is not ICBM. This is a screenshot of Du Wenlong's program report.

印度高调宣传夜间发射“烈火-5” “短板”那么明显，尴尬不？_手机网易网

央广网11月2日消息（记者宋鹏超）据印度媒体报道，印度军方10月27日晚成功发射了射程达5000公里的“烈火-5”洲际导弹。报道称，这是“烈火-5”导弹首次在夜间试射。

3g.163.com

3, What you said is that there is only one guidance mode.