Indian muslim :Javed Akhtar's Pakistan

[Leader]

What is the basis of creation of Pakistan if it was meant only for a fraction of rich Muslims?
in the other thread same or alike bharit guys were saying rich muslims didnt migrate,

 

[Vinod2070]

when you come up with false claims of equality for them in India it calls for responding. besides what law bars you from talking about Human rights in any part of the world ?? do we stop you from talking about the same in our country? whats there for hypocrisy

2. he does not represents the entire community there. if so then lets talk about many others and take their statements

Any community falling behind is not necessarily a conspiracy. I have given you an example of Pushtuns in Pakistan. Is their condition a result of any conspiracy or because of the primitive Pushtunwali code that many of them follow?

Muslims have the same conditions as the communities they converted from for the most part. Religion doesn't have much to do with their condition. That condition is anyway better than Pakistani Muslims and tribals.

If an Indian Muslim criticizes Pakistan (and so many of them do it on this forum), you call him names. Then you claim to have concern for them, more than your own people in Karachi?

Doesn't that sound hypocrisy?

 

[ramu]

as described by Jinnah 'moth eaten pakistan' was given to us, the main leadership like Liaquat Ali khan A nawab himself, didnt claim his property consisting of 120 villages...that is what PAkistan movement leadership was, nawab of bhawalpur aided all his money in the early days to pay salaries of government functions... now compare this with the other side...

Daultana admitted that he didnt let the land reforms to be implimented. remember sindh and punjab had landlords and they had nothing to do with movement of PAKistan, they had long standing relations with british bureaucracy...so they joined hands against the team that created Pakistan...

@manas

Moth eaten Pakistan, bedridden India. Condition on both sides were pathetic, no doubt. India was in no better shape given the famine and widespread diseases at that time.

But the fact remains. India abolished zamindari and jagirdari system long long ago and Pakistan does not think that is necessary.

 

[Vinod2070]

Arundhati has more genuine views on Muslims and even Hindus how they look at India itself but Indians dont like her views for obvious reasons

She is a commie. I really want her to experience the Taliban for a few days. She will realize the value of democracy in a free country instantly.

 

[Raza88]

No house for me in Mumbai because I am a Muslim, alleges Imran Hasmi
Friday, July 31, 2009 04:56:32 PM, Agencies

Mumbai: After Shabana Azmi and Javed Akhtar, now bollywood actor Imran Hasmi says he has been denied a house in Mumbai because of his faith.

"Am I a criminal or a terrorist?" asked an upset Emraan Hashmi Friday while alleging he had been denied a house he wanted to buy in the upmarket Pali Hill area of Mumbai because he was Muslim.

The actor, who was not given a no objection certificate (NOC), believes the housing society in Pali Hill was hiding the real reason for its refusal.

"This has political connotations, so they don't want to talk about it openly. They told me yesterday that I can't get the NOC. I asked them why aren't you giving me the certificate. Am I a criminal or a terrorist or have I done anything illegal?" Emraan told reporters here with his uncle and well-known filmmaker Mahesh Bhatt by his side.

"It is strange that they don't tell you on your face that you can't get a house because you are a Muslim. It would have been easier if they would have told me openly. What they told me is that they can't allow me to live there because I am a serial kisser and my presence will have a bad influence on the children staying there.

"Being a celebrity if I'm facing problems in buying a house here, I wonder what kind of problems others would have been facing. All the time we are talking about secularism but with such incidents what secularism are people talking about?" asked the actor.

Emraan said someone suggested to him that he purchase the house in the name of his wife Parveen, who is a Hindu. "I can do that, but why should I do that?" he asked.

Bhatt said such discrimination was a serious problem plaguing the country.

"Even 62 years after independence, the virus of communalism is alive in an area like Pali Hill, which is known as India's Beverly Hills where stars like Sunil Dutt lived and Dilip Kumar is still living there.

It's a serious problem and is the country ready to accept that communalism is still surviving?" he said.

"There are also certain societies in the area that do not give NOCs to non-Hindus," he said.

Emraan, who featured in films like "Murder", "Gangster - A Love Story", wanted to buy a house in Pali Hill so that he could stay close to his parents, but the actor was refused the NOC by Pali Hill's Nibbana Cooperative Society.

He has filed a complaint with the State Minorities' Commission, demanding action against the society members. The society reportedly has mostly Hindus and a couple of Catholic families.

This is not the first time Hashmi has faced such a problem.

"I faced a similar situation in August 2007, when I was looking for a house in the same area; residents and brokers told me I would not be able to get a house because I was a Muslim. But I later managed to get one," Emraan told a newspaper Thursday.

The Vice Chairman of the Maharashtra Minority Commission, Abraham Mathai said, the commission has sent a show cause notice to the housing society.

On the other hand, the secretary of the housing society said, "They have not received any letter from the Hashmi" and clarified "There is no ban on Muslims owning a house in the complex."

 

[ramu]

What is the basis of creation of Pakistan if it was meant only for a fraction of rich Muslims?
in the other thread same or alike bharit guys were saying rich muslims didnt migrate,

That is precisely the question. Even today, 200 families control the complete agricultural land in Pakistan. If you can refute that with evidence, be my guest.

 

[Leader]

Moth eaten Pakistan, bedridden India. Condition on both sides were pathetic, no doubt. India was in no better shape given the famine and widespread diseases at that time.

But the fact remains. India abolished zamindari and jagirdari system long long ago and Pakistan does not think that is necessary.

look its not like that, you can check the land reforms law, Ayub implemented as a card to curb his opponenets, later bhutto did to manipulate the lower middle class, but later joined hands with the very landlords...by law one cannot have more than 12 acres of land in Pakistan. implementation is not there.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

That is precisely the question. Even today, 200 families control the complete agricultural land in Pakistan. If you can refute that with evidence, be my guest.

Really? 200? Whole of Pakistan?

 

[Vinod2070]

That is precisely the question. Even today, 200 families control the complete agricultural land in Pakistan. If you can refute that with evidence, be my guest.

I have read it is just 22 families.

If it is 200 now, it is a great progress.

 

[NALANDA]

Dude - Publicity is air to actors as oxygen is to you and me.....

India ad Indians and progressively new generations live, eat , sleep with all the other citizens be it any religion or region.......religion is fast ..I say fast becoming any issue to all......you may picj one or two incidence, here ane there, but increasing majority live a free (from these borig ideas ) life...and yes we are in a hurry to catch up with the developed world....

anyway..you will not get it....I HAVE LEARNT THAT YOU GUYS ARE BRAINWAHSED RIGHT FROM NURSERY.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

So Javed Akhtar is talking out of turn.

Maulana Arshad Madani, President of Jamiat-Ulama-i-Hind has this to say to Musharraf.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

So Javed Akhtar is talking out of turn.

Maulana Arshad Madani, President of Jamiat-Ulama-i-Hind has this to say to Musharraf.

Only Arundhati Roy and Geelani are right. Everybody else is a liar.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

anyway..you will not get it....I HAVE LEARNT THAT YOU GUYS ARE BRAINWAHSED RIGHT FROM NURSERY.

The day they learn what their Army has done and continues to do to them and their country, the Army will lose its grip on the country.

Countries in the world have an army. In Pakistan, an Army has a country.

They don't say this for nothing.

 

[Sinnerman108]

So Javed Akhtar is talking out of turn.

Maulana Arshad Madani, President of Jamiat-Ulama-i-Hind has this to say to Musharraf.

What a childish episode.

why didn't you post the part where the gentleman from B J P tried to introduced him self like so .. B J P !

The whole press conference was just that ... If maulana was so interested,

how come he didn't get a seat some where in the front, maybe along side B J P ?

 

[Sinnerman108]

Like Aasia Bibi? This might interest you then:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/current-events-social-issues/98076-among-blasphemers.html#post1571177

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Of course you are the best person to judge whether a person is worth being called a Muslim or not...

And you are ??

Get your facts right about the laws.

do feel free to come back and correct your self.