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[jamahir]

But BJP did not ban beef.
And there is really no ban on beef but only on COW SLAUGHTER.
Beef from others are openly sold and consumed.

Can you try telling that distinction to the gau rakshaks and their political leaders ??

RTE is one,

What about it ??

Endowment act is another,

I don't know about this. Can you explain ??

Concept of minority itself is another

I agree. In a country whose Constitution Preamble declares it to be a secular and socialist republic, there should be no differentiation on religious lines.

FYI, Hindus although a minority in J&K are not accorded the status.

I believe that the Kashmiri Pandits should return back to the Valley.

 

[namefield_empty]

I agree. In a country whose Constitution Preamble declares it to be a secular and socialist republic, there should be no differentiation on religious lines.

But you are contradicting yourself, in an ideal secular state there shouldn't be any difference between the Personal Laws, does this mean you are in favour of an Uniform Civil Code?

 

[Soumitra]

So someone like Che Guevara was also a freeloader ??

Being a socialist is more difficult than you think.

Freeloader - Someone who doesn't do a days honest work but expects others - Taxpayers, Parents, Friends, Family to take care of his needs. You decide if Che Guvera is a freeloader but Kanhaiya definetly is one.

Yes being a socialist is such a difficult job - Be at a university till age 30-32, Don't study but keep on doing dharnas, enjoy taxpayer funded food lodging and boarding, after "graduation" get invited to lit fests where you sip champaign while crying about poor opressed adivasis

 

[Chhatrapati]

She did do one thing really well and that is to kick out the communists from Bengal after more than 30 years of continuous rule. It was their bastion and i can think of very few people who could have accomplished that feat. It did take a lot of hard work on her side and several years before she was successful. Yea she's mad, minority appeasing, unstable and violent, but overall, Bengal did progress under her. It's not that illegal migration and violence were any less under communists Communists were ruthless during their rule and illegal migration continued. The only reason Mamata gets more flak is because she is openly Modi hating and minority appeasing, thus gets a lot of Media attention. I would definitely choose her over Left any day. GDP growth under her is double digits, under commies, it was 4-5 % for entire 30 years

More like she replaced communists with TMC communists. And it was no biggie, she ride on the massive anti incumbency after Nandigram violence.
After the communists were thrown out of power, there was widespread attacks on them, and they took shelter under the BJP which was new then. This vacancy could've been filled by the congress but they were together with TMC and alone made it impossible. TMC could've avoided a BJP gain if it compromised on few seats with congress and make some understanding with CPIM. But she eyed for the PM post wanted to have it all like before and hold a good bargaining chip. Now see what happened.

Bengal still have massive unemployment in it's state. It used to be a wealthy state together with Bihar. But corruption and poor governance made it into a very poor state. Also, what Bengal experience is similar to what LDC countries experience, don't know if it's consistent and you lack any massive investments, you are more replicating a Kerala Model (to Gulf) mass migration to South India where income from labor intensive works is higher compared to other states in India.

 

[Doctor Strange]

What do you have against the Leftists ?? Have they not been good for Russia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Cuba etc ??

I don't know anything about BD Leftists. Are they a significant bloc ?? Are any of the assassinated BD intellectuals associated with the Left ??

Leftists are really bad in those above mentioned countries. All over the place corruption and total disregard for humanity. The ideology itself is wrong to begin with hence the turmoil. BD leftists are mitigated. But still in power without votes, says a lot about their fascist behaviour (They are part AL gov). During 71 these guys started revolution starting the independence war, hence many people died and BD suffered in subsequent years, also India took advantage of the situation. Because of their nonstop revolution still after creation of BD, people died in 74 femine. That antagonized people, causing death of Sheikh Mujib. That started the military rule. That put them in hibernation for years, some of them started terrorism known as sarbahara party like maos in India. While India took advantage of these leftists of BD in 70s they absolutely slaughtered Indian ones in that era. Recently these guys started social chaos because of their hate towards Islam. Giving birth to IS, refer to events started from Shahbagh movement. They have some grip on media as well, through which they propagate nonstop bs. So gov takes them along so that they dont start another chaos. When the time comes they will be totally thrown out.

 

[namefield_empty]

During 71 these guys started revolution starting the independence war, hence many people died and BD suffered in subsequent years, also India took advantage of the situation.

While India took advantage of these leftists of BD in 70s they absolutely slaughtered Indian ones in that era.

Nonsense, how on earth did India take advantage when we ourselves were fighting left wing extremism in the late 60s and early 70s. Blame China for that, they played both sides during your Liberation war, on one hand they provided Pakistan interest free money and then they financed Leftist guerrilla organisations to fight the Mukti Bahini. And you might as well include Soviet Russia to that list too.

 

[pothead]

Can you try telling that distinction to the gau rakshaks and their political leaders ??



What about it ??



I don't know about this. Can you explain ??



I agree. In a country whose Constitution Preamble declares it to be a secular and socialist republic, there should be no differentiation on religious lines.



I believe that the Kashmiri Pandits should return back to the Valley.

I have least interest in debating these issues,
Our position over last few years on pdf are fairly known to each other.
No need to rinse and repeat the same arguments from both sides.

Having said that, do duly note the election results,
like I mentioned, 2019 may feel worse than 2014 for a lot of folks but what will truly shock the seculars would be 2024 - mark my words.

Reason I say it, the other side is still not honest, either with their own ideology or with Indian people.
and the so called 'majority' has realized this fact.

 

[Jackdaws]

LOL...no you would not oppose anyone who is a terror accused.

Do you know who was India's First Muslim Home minister ? It was Mufti Muhammed Syeed and 5 days after he was made the Home Minster, his daughter was kidnapped and within 5 days he released 5 Terrorists were freed with great rejoicing and songs on the streets of kashmir. Large crowds raised anti-India slogans, sang and danced in the streets after the militants were released. One slogan was "Jo kare khuda ka khauf, Utha le Kalashnikov." (All Godfearing men should pick up a Kalashnikov.)

Of course the whole thing was a "Fixed match" and JKLF admitted to this as much after a decade. This is the same man who later became the Chief minister of J&K. So spare me you indignation.

Hahahhahahahha. You do realize that Mufti Mohammed Saeed was the Home Minister in the VP Singh govt? And who was the biggest supporter of VP Govt to ensure it remained in power? BJP.

FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION... can we have it as absolute???

Yes. You are free to express those views. A national party shouldn't be giving a ticket to a bigot.

 

[Novice09]

Yes. You are free to express those views. A national party shouldn't be giving a ticket to a bigot.

Even I feel that giving ticket to her is a BIG mistake... but as someone said to me:

Digvijay need someone of equal CALIBRE...

 

[Gadkari]

Hahahhahahahha. You do realize that Mufti Mohammed Saeed was the Home Minister in the VP Singh govt? And who was the biggest supporter of VP Govt to ensure it remained in power? BJP.

So what ?

Did that give muslims a cart blanch to free terrorists ? It was the same VP singh who arrested BJP leaders too during Ram Janmabhoomi agitation.

Yes. You are free to express those views. A national party shouldn't be giving a ticket to a bigot.

Then why did Congress give Rajiv Gandhi a ticket and made him president ?

The same bigot who conducted a mass genocide against sikhs in delhi because his mother was killed ? the man who prevented the army from being deployed so that the sikh's could be killed ?

Where was your indignation then ? or now for that matter ? Your hypocrisy is only served for pragya thakur.

 

[randomradio]

Interesting thread. Click to read.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1131887661415915520

 

[Gadkari]

Congress victor party in Waynad after Rahul Gandhi won

And here I though congress was "secular" and hated saffron flags

https://twitter.com/x/status/1131936572478230528

 

[Jackdaws]

So what ?

Did that give muslims a cart blanch to free terrorists ? It was the same VP singh who arrested BJP leaders too during Ram Janmabhoomi agitation.



Then why did Congress give Rajiv Gandhi a ticket and made him president ?

The same bigot who conducted a mass genocide against sikhs in delhi because his mother was killed ? the man who prevented the army from being deployed so that the sikh's could be killed ?

Where was your indignation then ? or now for that matter ? Your hypocrisy is only served for pragya thakur.

Lol. Clearly you are clueless about history. BJP did not withdraw support to VP Singh govt even after the freeing of terrorists. That speaks volumes. So they giving a ticket to a terror accused is no surprise.

If Rajiv Gandhi was a bigot in real life instead of in the imagination of bhakt graduates from Whatsapp University - show me a video of him extolling the killing of Sikhs or claiming to participate in riots or even praising any of the killers.

 

[pothead]

If Rajiv Gandhi was a bigot in real life instead of in the imagination of bhakt graduates from Whatsapp University

Wait for few decades,
People like you would even pretend not a Sikh was murdered on that fateful day in 1983.

And you lot wonder how and why BJP is getting bigger and bigger mandate.

 

[Gadkari]

Lol. Clearly you are clueless about history. BJP did not withdraw support to VP Singh govt even after the freeing of terrorists. That speaks volumes. So they giving a ticket to a terror accused is no surprise.

If Rajiv Gandhi was a bigot in real life instead of in the imagination of bhakt graduates from Whatsapp University - show me a video of him extolling the killing of Sikhs or claiming to participate in riots or even praising any of the killers.

Why would the BJP withdraw support ? At that time no one knew the matched was "Fixed".

I was pointing out the "Joys" of appointing a muslim as a Home Minster.

Of course subsequent history has shown that even "secular' hindu congressmen can create fake "hindu terror" stories.


About sr. RG, Here is him Justifying the sikh genocide.

Here is proof that Rajiv gandhi REFUSED to save the Sikhs and that the program was a planned genocide.

"President Giani Zail Singh’s press secretary Wednesday alleged that the riots were “orchestrated and sponsored” and claimed that the then PM Rajiv Gandhi did not even take calls from the President when he tried to get in touch with him to discuss the situation."

https://indianexpress.com/article/i...ake-calls-from-prez-after-84-riots-broke-out/


Another Genocide Accused Kamalnath is now the congress CM in MP. He was earlier an MP too.

https://www.telegraphindia.com/opin...h-pogrom-of-1984-is-not-forgotten/cid/1678944

"Kamal Nath was accused of leading a mob outside the Rakabganj gurdwara during the pogrom. Two Sikhs burned to death in his vicinity. His presence at the gurdwara was testified to formally by the police and a journalist. H.S. Phoolka and Manoj Mitta in their book on the pogrom point out that his presence for two hours at the head of a mob near the gurdwara was never satisfactorily explained. The closest Kamal Nath came to an explanation was to say that he was there at the behest of Rajiv Gandhi. "

Where was your "indignation" then ? Your Hypocrisy is pretty brazen.


Now before you give "clean chit" to Kamalnath and ask for proof, explain to us the proof against Pragya thakur.

Katua spotted

That he is, but its his pretense of "secularism" that gets to me.