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Indian Diplomat's Take On: Pakistan's Yemen War

@Daneshmand

Your post invisible for using shame too many times through profanity filter.



Indeed. LEJ is linked to Nawaz
i may disagree with him on many things but what he has written in post#22 is right specially the last few lines. If ever we r to join this it must b on our terms and conditions as there is no such thing as free lunch.
 
LOL kiddo the fact is that u have intervened in a civil war yourself in east pakistan by not following the same law. Yr not in any position to tell that to others.


make saudis cut oil exports to india first and ask oman to cancel gas deal with indians. Otherwise its like making castles in the air.

The point is if ever we r to join this, it must be on our own terms and conditions.
Time has given us a huge gun... we should not use it to kill a housefly.
 
Weren't the Indians sucking up to the Qatari king not too long ago :D

What is the status of support of insurgency by Oman Qatar and bahrain in Balochistan. Is that threat eliminated?
I have asked this question a while ago and you didnt respond.

However you spin it, Pakistan is going to put boots on the ground no matter what your brass might think.... Nawaz doesn't have many choices...
you are talking of Pakistans boots on ground and i am not even sure of Saudi invasion. If saudis invaded it will be a long conflict.
 
Pakistan’s Yemeni war

Pakistan is inching toward an acknowledgement of its participation in the Saudi-led, American-backed military intervention in the civil war in Yemen. A fateful moment arises for India’s regional interests. Without doubt, the remark attributed to Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to the effect that his country will strongly respond to any threat to the security of Saudi Arabia prepares the ground for rationalizing a political decision that seems to have been already taken by him.

In fact, the Saudi media reports already count Pakistan as a participant in the ‘coalition’ intervening in Yemen and anticipate that the brunt of the ground operations will be borne by the Pakistani forces. The presence of the Pakistani army chief Raheel Sharif and the chief of air force Sohail Aman at the meeting taken by Sharif in Islamabad on Thursday would suggest that the Pakistani military’s role will be substantial.

In retrospect, Sharif’s recent hurried trip to Riyadh falls into perspective. The Saudi King Salman summoned him to be told personally about Riyadh’s expectations of him in the period ahead. (See my blog Saudi Arabia dusts up Pakistan ties.)

The Saudis have promised to bankroll the Pakistanis and the latter are duly gearing up to act as the watchdogs of the Saudi interests. Pakistan has no direct stakes in Yemen, but Sharif needs all the money King Salman can give.

If Delhi had seen subtleties in the Saudi policies to ‘downgrade’ ties with Pakistan, well, it was simply delusional. The Saudi-Pakistani alliance is as strong as ever – and continues to be irreplaceable for either side.

The Saudi-Pakistani alliance has traditionally enjoyed American blessing. Indeed, the forthcoming Pakistani military operations in Yemen will heavily draw on US intelligence inputs. Pakistan is poised to play yet another key role in the US’ regional strategies. Its credentials as a ‘moderate’ Sunni Muslim country with one of the strongest militaries in the Muslim world makes it the ideal partner for the US in the security of the petrodollar states in the Persian Gulf region, which is entering a turbulent period of transition.

The Saudi intervention in Yemen is going to be a prolonged affair. The sectarian dimension, the Houthis’ deep-rooted antipathy toward Saudi Arabia, the geographical proximity of the Houthi heartland with the Shi’ite dominated eastern provinces of Saudi Arabia, Saudi-Yemeni territorial disputes and the roots of antagonism between the two countries – all these impact the developing scenario. There will be a Yemeni backlash at some point.

Unsurprisingly, thoughtful Pakistani voices are heard expressing disquiet about their country’s audacious march into the quicksands of Yemeni civil war and tribal politics (hereand here). But Sharif is unlikely to pay heed, as he is in no position to ignore a diktat from the Saudi king – not only for political and economic reasons but also for personal reasons, given his family’s vast business interests in Saudi Arabia.

Yet, the involvement in Yemen becomes a distraction from the single-minded attention needed to fasten Pakistan’s internal security. Pakistan can ill afford such distraction, no matter the lure of the Saudi dole out. The Pakistani military is called upon to fight in a foreign country while at the same time continue with its counter-terrorist operations at home.

Pakistan is wading into Gulf politics. The Saudi-Iranian tensions cast their shadow on Yemen and Islamabad is taking sides. It is bound to antagonize Tehran and it will have consequences. Pakistan’s power projection in Afghanistan may run into headwinds. Of course, the shared concerns of Iran and India in the Afghan situation need no reiteration and Delhi needs to have candid exchanges with Tehran.

At the end of the day, the Saudi military intervention in Yemen is a violation of international law. Riyadh hopes to elicit a UN Security Council mandate with the help of the US, France and Britain. Iran, on the other hand, has lost no time to consult Russia.

Following a phone call by Iranian President Hassan Rouhani to President Vladimir Putin,Moscow has “stressed the urgency of an immediate cessation of hostilities and of stepping up efforts, including by the UN to develop options for a peaceful settlement of the conflict.” Russia is unlikely to endorse any US move to get the UN Security Council to legitimize the foreign military intervention in Yemen.

Foreign military intervention in a country’s civil war is fraught with risks as the civil war may mutate when foreign devils get involved and could take protean shapes. It is a near certainty that the civil war in Yemen may spill over into Saudi Arabia as time passes and when that happens, Pakistani military will find itself as the Praetorian Guards of a decrepit regime.

Paradoxically, the Saudi offensive aims at weakening the Houthis, but the latter happen to the only credible check on the al-Qaeda affiliates present in Yemen. That is to say, the al-Qaeda is almost certainly the beneficiary. Meanwhile, the Islamic State has appeared in Yemen. In sum, Pakistan keeps on complaining that it is a victim of the US’ war on terrorism, and yet is eagerly offering itself once again as a ‘frontline’ state for financial considerations. Some countries never learn from history.

Delhi can draw satisfaction that Pakistan’s overreach in the Gulf will preoccupy the military leadership in Rawalpindi. The Pakistani military personnel are also involved in suppressing the Shi’ite agitation seeking democratic empowerment in Bahrain. And Pakistan getting caught up in the Arab Spring cannot be ruled out. Delhi should make use of this respite to its advantage.

Taking all things into consideration, India should take to the high grounds and call for a peaceful resolution of the political crisis in Yemen through discussions involving by the protagonists in the civil war. It should not hesitate to condemn the foreign military intervention in Yemen in contravention of the international law and the UN Charter. It should warn the world community that such unilateral intervention can have disastrous consequences, as happened in Libya.

Pakistan’s Yemeni war – Indian Punchline
JOKE OF THE MONTH IS IT FOR APRIL FOOL IF IT IS THEN YOU HAVE WON THE PRIZE BOY:rofl: :yahoo:
 
India intervened because your madness in East Pakistan took a good toll on our economy and problems.BD is our neighbour.
Main Sadqe!!!
Indian intervention is for liberation of oppressed people and pakistans intervention is terrorism.
 
Pakistan is in no position to say no. All the reasons you wrote go out the window when the Saud dangle a couple dollars in front of the appropriate 'leaders'.



Free Gas for Pakistani Fighter jets landing in Iran.
Military & Diplomatic support in 71.
Cobra Gunships and various material support against the Baloch uprising. (Iran supplied Spare Parts for Pakistan's American War Machine everytime)
Preferential Oil Pricing.
Re-establishing diplomatic ties with Afghanistan.
Anti-Soviet Occupation.
Support's Pakistan's claim to Kashmir.
Supported Pakistan's Nuclear Program.

But you're welcome to forget that since Iran supported the Northern Alliance against the Taliban.
There was a time when Iran was considered as one of the most CLOSEST FRIENDS of Pakistan then dont know wat happened but suddenly after revolution every thing changed dont know why i really hope that it could be same again..........
@Horus can you please elaborate wat happened in 79 that things suddenly changed ???

It's not a wish, it is simply reality. PA will not let itself be dragged into this mess, at most they'll send reservists and a few officers, nothing more.
PA should give intelligence at the most
 
We are in no where involved in Yemen conflict. It is just media hype
 
What is the status of support of insurgency by Oman Qatar and bahrain in Balochistan. Is that threat eliminated?
I have asked this question a while ago and you didnt respond.
So much for the G.C.C being our all time friends
It was the U.A.E who was actually arming the baloch rebels
http://tribune.com.pk/story/84902/wikileaks-india-russia-supporting-baloch-insurgency/

From the link "“India and the UAE (reportedly due to opposition to construction of the Gwadar port) were funding and arming the Baloch"
 
Another typical Indian response. Pakistan WILL support the arab coalition, however any military commitment from us is not likely. Pakistan owes nothing to the Iranians as they've always supported the Hindu India over Muslim Pakistan. By that token we will do what we feel we need to do to fulfill our interests and that of our arab allies. The budding joint arab force can also be helpful to Pakistan against India, therefore we have a finger in it too.

your stance suits us completely.

Anyway Bharat ll always stand with persia.

Weren't the Indians sucking up to the Qatari king not too long ago :D

if at all anything,it is the GCC kingdoms which pay indian ministers to scuttle the development of aviation in india as it ll affect the middle east tourism and spending.

Shah's Iran is dead..it was a great friend of us..

Since the 79 'revolution' Iran has been a pro India country.

Iran/Persia only always recognized the native kingdom of the subcontinent which is Bharat/India.

Client states ll remain that only.

We were fighting for our survival against USSR in Afghanistan while deterring India in the east at the same time during Iran, Iraq war. We didn't support Iran or Iraq, which reflects our old policy. We won't join a war between two Muslim states.

come on dude.you think iraqis & iranians are so stupid to but your non aligned response?

you did nothing because america supported Iraq and hated Iran,you should have gone and helped Iran because they are much closer to the subcontinent than Arabs.You did nothing and the Iranians got the message.
 
Iran supported Pakistan against India because both were allied to the US when Shah ruled. After 79, Iran has only fueled extremist Shia in Pakistan and always supported India over Pakistan.

The war in Yemen is a counter terrorist operation, not a war between Arab coalition and Yemni state. If Iran stops fueling terrorism into the Arab world the region will see peace. Its Iran pushing into the Arab world not the other way around.

We have declared support, however it mat not have a military dimension. It will be decided by our leadership through parliament.

This is with respect to Iran supporting India

After 1979 Iran has been under sanctions from USA and West. To the degree they did not support Pakistan they felt Pakistani elite was Uncle Sam's poodle. They feel a little bit that way about India since India-US relations improved. Pakistan support for the Taliban does not help. Until 1990 India was closer to Saddam's Iraq than Iran.
 
This is with respect to Iran supporting India

After 1979 Iran has been under sanctions from USA and West. To the degree they did not support Pakistan they felt Pakistani elite was Uncle Sam's poodle. They feel a little bit that way about India since India-US relations improved. Pakistan support for the Taliban does not help. Until 1990 India was closer to Saddam's Iraq than Iran.
true........but how that effect them? i don't think so
 
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