Indian democracy loses to Chinese efficiency - by 160 votes

[Chinese-Dragon]

Guess keeping black people dont on the cotton farms did not work out too well.

Joking about black slavery? Typical behaviour from you.

Well America is predicted to spend the shortest EVER time as a superpower in the history of the Earth, to quickly be knocked off as the number one economy in a little more than a decade.

And remember when they read the history books in years to come, they will see that the great ol' USA was founded on the racist genocide of Native Americans, and on black slavery.

So joke about slavery while you can... and try to forget about the racist genocide of 100 million Native Americans. That even beats the Nazis' record for racist genocide!

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

Joking about black slavery? Typical behaviour from you.

Well America is predicted to spend the shortest EVER time as a superpower in the history of the Earth, to quickly be knocked off as the number one economy in a little more than a decade.

And remember when they read the history books in years to come, they will see that the great ol' USA was founded on the racist genocide of Native Americans, and on black slavery.

So joke about slavery while you can... and try to forget about the racist genocide of 100 million Native Americans. That even beats the Nazis' record for racist genocide!

You are kind of getting desperate and rather boring, comments about keeping blacks on cotton farms while the president of the USA is a black seems just down right stupid. An accuseing the USA of genocide and slavery when considering what is taking place in China to day is rather desperate and rather ridiculous. Now I could understand that if you live in China with their censorship they may not have told you that the USA has a black president and of course if China writes the history in years to come, I dont think we could really call it a History, maybe a story or fairy talel.
A COUNTRY THAT WILL CENSOR WHAT YOU HEAR WILL LIE TO YOU.

Slave Labor in China Sparks Outrage - TIME

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You are kind of getting desperate and rather boring, comments about keeping blacks on cotton farms while the president of the USA is a black seems just down right stupid. An accuseing the USA of genocide and slavery when considering what is taking place in China to day is rather desperate and rather ridiculous.

Slave Labor in China Sparks Outrage - TIME

Are the facts too painful? Beating the Nazis at their own game of racist genocide is quite a feat though.

Not to mention the fact, that this racist genocide of so-called "inferior savages" (Native Americans)... was also the birth of modern America. Then after the Natives were hunted almost to the point of extinction, they brought in black African slaves to continue building.

Two figures are given, both low and high, at: between 10 million and 114 million indians as a direct result of US actions. Please note that Nazi Holocaust estimates are between 6 and 11 million; thereby making the Nazi Holocaust the 2nd largest mass murder of a class of people in history.

American Holocaust: D. Stannard (Oxford Press, 1992)
God, Greed and Genocide: The Holocaust Through the Centuries: Grenke (New Academia Publishing 2006)
Holocaust: Critical Concepts in Historical Studies: Cesarani, (Routledge 2004)

To establish a country based the racist genocide of 100 million Native Americans... that is not great for the history books.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

A COUNTRY THAT WILL CENSOR WHAT YOU HEAR WILL LIE TO YOU.

Slave Labor in China Sparks Outrage - TIME

LOL poor memory old guy... as before, I live in Hong Kong. No state media at all.

As for the article that is not sanctioned by the government, in fact the government came in to shut them down. So it's no different from the "sex slavery" of children in America, in fact I would say the latter is worse.

Children being used by sex traffickers in America range in age from 9 to 19, with the average age being 11 years old. Efforts are being made to rescue them.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) estimates that well over 100,000 children and young women are sex trafficked every day. Many victims are not runaways or kids who have been abandoned but rather have been lured or coerced by clever predators.

Sex Trafficking of Children in America

Don't you think sexual slavery of children is far worse than the article about slave labour you posted? Especially when it a hundred thousand children being trafficked every day?

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

Are the facts too painful? Beating the Nazis at their own game of racist genocide is quite a feat though.

Not to mention the fact, that this racist genocide of so-called "inferior savages" (Native Americans)... was also the birth of modern America. Then after the Natives were hunted almost to the point of extinction, they brought in black African slaves to continue building.



American Holocaust: D. Stannard (Oxford Press, 1992)
God, Greed and Genocide: The Holocaust Through the Centuries: Grenke (New Academia Publishing 2006)
Holocaust: Critical Concepts in Historical Studies: Cesarani, (Routledge 2004)

To establish a country based the racist genocide of 100 million Native Americans... that is not great for the history books.

Some people will say any thing to sell books, but look on the bright side if not for the USA you would be speaking Japanese today. The USA did not have to go to war with Japan, we could have just said we will sell you all the oil and metal you want, China is not worth argueing over.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Some people will say any thing to sell books, but look on the bright side if not for the USA you would be speaking Japanese today. The USA did not have to go to war with Japan, we could have just said we will sell you all the oil and metal you want, China is not worth argueing over.

Yeah right, China was attacked by Japan 10 years before WW2 even started.

The Japanese forces were almost completely pushed off the Chinese mainland before America dropped the nukes. It was a done deal already, read your history books.

The Japanese are strong and tough, but it's impossible to fully conquer such a large population. Even at the very height of their success they didn't even manage to penetrate halfway in, too bad for them.

Now about the racist genocide of 100 million Native Americans... how do you feel that people will be opening history books after the "decline of America"... to read that the entire nation was founded on a racist genocide that surpassed what even the Nazis did?

Sounds pretty bad right, sort of like a 70 year old man admitting to trolling on the internet? Seriously though such a person really needs to get some friends, their life is nearly over so they might as well try to do it.

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

Yeah right, China was attacked by Japan 10 years before WW2 even started.

The Japanese forces were almost completely pushed off the Chinese mainland before America dropped the nukes. It was a done deal already, read your history books.

The Japanese are strong and tough, but it's impossible to fully conquer such a large population. Even at the very height of their success they didn't even manage to penetrate halfway in, too bad for them.

Now about the racist genocide of 100 million Native Americans... how do you feel that people will be opening history books after the decline of America... to read that the entire nation was founded on a racist genocide that surpassed what even the Nazis did?

Sounds pretty bad right, sort of like a 70 year old man admitting to trolling on the internet? Seriously though such a person really needs to get some friends, their life is nearly over so they might as well try to do it.

In those ten years China did not do squat, after 4 years of war with the USA Japan was on the verge of being defeated but China did not have any thing to do with it. What if the USA had not opposed Japan in the first place, there would have not been an attack on Pearl Harbor, no war and you would be speaking Japanese today if your parents had even survived, and people can read lies about racist genocide now, they dont have to wait a 100 years.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

In those ten years China did not do squat, after 4 years of war with the USA Japan was on the verge of being defeated but China did not have any thing to do with it. What if the USA had not opposed Japan in the first place, there would have not been an attack on Pearl Harbor, no war and you would be speaking Japanese today if your parents had even survived.

LOL you fail at history.

The Japanese were ALREADY pushed off the mainland before America dropped the nukes.

As for speaking Japanese, the Japanese themselves even use Chinese characters to write their language! Look up "Kanji" in a dictionary, it literally means Chinese characters. So it's the other way round, lol... the Japanese are using OUR language.

Why do you keep avoiding the racist genocide of 100 million Native Americans though? Tell me, after the "decline" of America how do you think that will feel in the history books?

 

[desiman]

“I rather wait 10 years in a Democracy than run 5 years in an Autocracy.” – Martin Luther King.

I think that sums it up.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

“I rather wait 10 years in a Democracy than run 5 years in an Autocracy.” – Martin Luther King.

I think that sums it up.

I happen to agree with Dr. King's quote.

It will take a long time for democratic reforms to reach China though, probably in more than a decade.

Until then, we will have to make do with this current system, either that or risk a civil war. Better to wait for the long-term I think, unless someone finds a way to change the system in the short-run without bloodshed.

 

[desiman]

I happen to agree with Dr. King.

It will take a long time for democratic reforms to reach China though, probably in more than a decade.

Until then, we will have to make do with this current system, either that or risk a civil war. Better to wait I think.

see the main point of a system is to deliver results, and the Chinese system has done that, so its not wrong. Yes we can all criticize China but you have to stand in awe of their achievements. Im sure once China has reached a stage where its people will demand democracy, they will get it. Democracy isnt an overnight thing, its a slow transition and China has no reason to rush it. Its government has done a wonderful job in terms of pulling people out of poverty but as the incomes of people increase it also will require to give them the perks that Democracy brings. Altogether India has its own system and so does China, they cannot be compared. Both follow two totally different models.

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

LOL you fail at history.

The Japanese were ALREADY pushed off the mainland before America dropped the nukes.

As for speaking Japanese, the Japanese themselves even use Chinese characters to write their language, look up "Kanji" in a dictionary, it literally means Chinese characters. So it's the other way round, lol.

Why do you keep avoiding the racist genocide of 100 million Native Americans though? Tell me, after the "decline" of America how do you think that will feel in the history books?

What if america had never opposed the Japanese occupation of China in the first place, you would be speaking Japanese by now.
I dont agree that it was genocide or there were a 100 million indians killed so I dont care what history says. As far as Americas decline that remains to be seen, lets see how China deals with communism, slave labor , some 4000 to 6000 concentrations re-education camps and censorship and a dictator and a lot of other problems first.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

see the main point of a system is to deliver results, and the Chinese system has done that, so its not wrong. Yes we can all criticize China but you have to stand in awe of their achievements. Im sure once China has reached a stage where its people will demand democracy, they will get it. Democracy isnt an overnight thing, its a slow transition and China has no reason to rush it. Its government has done a wonderful job in terms of pulling people out of poverty but as the incomes of people increase it also will require to give them the perks that Democracy brings. Altogether India has its own system and so does China, they cannot be compared. Both follow two totally different models.

I grew up in Hong Kong where we have elections (but not real democracy)... so I really do envy modern India, because they were born with democracy.

You're right China and India have two different systems, and they are BOTH working well. Our combined economic growth is the envy of the world.

In the long term, it is inevitable that we will have democracy in China... the only question is how long it will take, and whether or not there will be any bloodshed. I hope the transition will be peaceful.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I dont agree that it was genocide or there were a 100 million indians killed so I dont care what history says. As far as Americas decline that remains to be seen, lets see how China deals with communism, slave labor , some 4000 to 6000 concentrations re-education camps and censorship and a dictator and a lot of other problems first.

You "don't care what history says"?

LOL there is no point arguing with you if you can't even accept a basic historical fact.

 

[desiman]

I grew up in Hong Kong where we have elections (but not real democracy)... so I really do envy modern India, because they were born with democracy.

You're right China and India have two different systems, and they are BOTH working well. Our combined economic growth is the envy of the world.

In the long term, it is inevitable that we will have democracy in China... the only question is how long it will take, and whether or not there will be any bloodshed. I hope the transition will be peaceful.

thats for sure that Chindia will rule the next century, with our combined populations and economic strength there is no force that can stop us.

Im sure when the time is right the transition will take place in China, it does not have to be a revolution but a slow and steady change that will force the government to give people what they want. Democracy itself isnt perfect and is in fact very slow but it works and delivers in the longer run. China has done a tremendous job over the last decade and now the people of China must decide where they take the country from here.