Indian Army Chief:We will retaliate,orders commanders to be Aggressive.

[Spring Onion]

Remind me what did your NAVAL cheif say the other day?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-navy/229143-pak-navy-able-repel-border-attack.html


Show some respect people.

our naval chief merely responded to the media persons querry and thats all. Yours threatening us with a war speaking like trigger happy streetboys

Can someone from India clarify how did you know that headless body was of the soldier?

 

[Windjammer]

Remind me what did your NAVAL cheif say the other day?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...ued by the Naval Chief but by a vice admiral.

 

[Secur]

Who is preparing for a war? Flag meeting was held to clarify Indian position and get to know Pakistani position on the matter.And above is not a battle cry but a cautionary note to Pakistani army and orders for Indian army to hit back aggressively, if any further of violations of cease fire agreement take place.

One thing you got right was, India is definitely not serious in settling Kashmir issue, the way Pakistan thinks it is settled.

Indian position is very clear from the beginning, In the mess following the partition..Pakistan grabbed itself a part of Kashmir and India grabbed itself the other. Pakistani can either accept this reality or keep fighting or keep talking about it but no land will change hands accept in case full blown war.And chances of such a war, swinging in Pakistani favor are very slim and both Indians and Pakistanis realize this fact.

Oh I am sorry ! All these talks of ' considering other options ' and ' retaliation ' and ' replying at a place of our choosing ' are peaceful statements .... Right ? ... The same cautionary note would have conveyed by the Pakistani delegation to the IA commanders , tell me something new ... OR bother to look at the news of aggressive Indian brigadier starting all the mess ...

Then there's no need for any dialogue ... Why waste time and money ? Our position is clear , only the Kashmiris can decide whether they want to be with Pakistan , India or establish an independent state ... We are ready to give up the land we conquered back in '47 if the Kashmiris demand it anywhere and anytime loosing all the strategic value and land itself ... When has Pakistan threatened you of war ?

Remind me what did your NAVAL cheif say the other day?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-navy/229143-pak-navy-able-repel-border-attack.html

He said " His fleet has the capability to defend the country " which is a routine statement given by the army chief's ... Yes , this time it was done in wake of the aggressive posture by your army but nowhere it amounts to a " warning " of any sort ...

Comprehension problems much ?

 

[KS]

Strong words from COAS..but that we would retaliate at a time and place of our choosing is already known..but asking the commanders to be aggressive in face of firing is a new one.

i wonder what he is smoking!! but i am sure it is good quality stufff!

Hopefully same thing Field Marshall Sam Manekshaw was smoking...

Bindaaas !!!

 

[Awesome]

The 2 are not mutually exclusive. You can have meetings as a responsible force to ensure things get handled peacefully, but at the same time a strong posture needs to be maintained to ensure that talking is not taken as a sign of weakness leading to more misadventures by Pakistani army which could then result in a bigger escalation.

Its opposite of aggression.

 

[KS]

Both the Indian air/army chiefs have sent these messages, notice how a mute response comes in from the navy as their involvement would signal a larger full scale conventional conflict this most likely indicates that increased hostilities along the LoC would lead to a limited ground/air conflict in the heights and passes around the LoC by the IAF/IA.

Unlike the US, the Navy has always played a minor role in Indo-Pak conflicts..so its the statement of Army and Air chiefs that have to be noted carefully..

 

[Windjammer]

our naval chief merely responded to the media persons querry and thats all. Yours threatening us with a war speaking like trigger happy streetboys

Can someone from India clarify how did you know that headless body was of the soldier?

As i thought, the family weren't even allowed to see the body..... gets interesting by the minute.

Army officers, who were part of the soldier's funeral, did now allow the family's women to see Hemraj's body and went ahead with the cremation saying his body's condition may shock them.

Shernagar residents too are angry that no political leader from the state or the Centre visited the family till Friday.

One of them pointed out that the state government had treated Hemraj as "a lesser martyr" compared to Sudhakar, who was cremated with state honors. Madhya Pradesh chief minister Shivraj Singh Chauhan attended the cremation along with his cabinet members and top officials.

Slain jawanâ??s kin demand severed head back, go on hunger strike - Times Of India

 

[ares]

very right

the question is


1. have you (India) done all that ?

2. was the family of the slain soldier given all proofs if it was his body ?

Well Indian army is not in business of severing human heads and passing their headless bodies as its own soldiers to win brownie points.
I am also pretty certain, Indian army ascertained the identity of dead soldier before releasing his name to the public.

As far the family of soldier is concerned, I am sure death of her son..is not a matter of amusement to his mother(as is to many Pakistanis here)..that she will go demanding proof to her son's identity.
Maybe if was't laughing matter to you guys..you would know a mother can always identify her son.

But being a Pakistani, you guys should know better, every other day, dozens of your army men are beheaded, hundred of your citizens are mutilated in bomb blasts. Does your govt go about conducting DNA analysis of the bodies before handing the remains to respective families, or do the families in Pakistan regularly sue the govt for handing over the wrong remains to the families?

 

[PoKeMon]

very right

the question is


1. have you (India) done all that ?

2. was the family of the slain soldier given all proofs if it was his body ?

Its height of denial coupled with stupidity.

Are you saying a mother can't recognise his headless son or a wife will fail to see that the body actually dont belong to his husband??

Indian army is not pak army who can disown his soldiers. We dont have such a shameless history.

 

[KS]

Karma is a B***h.. Wait for a few days.. Something or the other will come up to shut up these folks who are making fun of this beheading or incidents like Mumbai

Hasnt it already happened ?

 

[Spring Onion]

Its height of denial coupled with stupidity.

Are you saying a mother can't recognise his headless son or a wife will fail to see that the body actually dont belong to his husband??

Indian army is not pak army who can disown his soldiers. We dont have such a shameless history.

Well Indian army is not in business of severing human heads and passing their headless bodies as its own soldiers to win brownie points.
I am also pretty certain, Indian army ascertained the identity of dead soldier before releasing his name to the public.

As far the family of soldier is concerned, I am sure death of her son..is not a matter of amusement to his mother(as is to many Pakistanis here)..that she will go demanding proof to her son's identity.
Maybe if was't laughing matter to you guys[B]..you would know a mother can always identify her son.[/B]
But being a Pakistani, you guys should know better, every other day, dozens of your army men are beheaded, hundred of your citizens are mutilated in bomb blasts. Does your govt go about conducting DNA analysis of the bodies before handing the remains to respective families, or do the families in Pakistan regularly sue the govt for handing over the wrong remains to the families?

Your emotional rehtoric aside . Indeed the mother and family of the slain soldier can identify his body ONLY if they are shown the body even without a head.

here the case is different the Indian govt/army refused to show the remains to the family.





Jai Singh, the martyr’s brother, who is also on a hunger strike, also sounded a note of doubt. “What was brought to us was a body covered in white sheet. Now it could be anyone’s body. We were not allowed to see what was inside,” he said, highlighting that he has spent his childhood with Hemraj and knew that he had a mole on the back.

“I would have checked it but they didn’t allow me to do that,” he added.


http://www.thehindu.com/news/states...ieve-headless-body-was-his/article4305067.ece

 

[Strigon]

Indian army is not pak army who can disown his soldiers. We dont have such a shameless history.

Didnt India sort of disown its citizens if not any recorded event for army? The fishermen who have their confessions recorded that they asked help from army/ navy but they did nothing to rescue them instead it was Pakistan who helped.

I dont know what you smoke all day to brag on something non-existing but posting stupid comments like these only shows what your only motive is on PDF like so many other Bhariti fanboys

 

[Jango]

The Hindu : News / National : India-Pak flag meeting fails to ease border tension

failed flag meeting .... **** got serious , indians already have readied the Surgical strike !!!

According to the link, meeting lasted just 15 minutes. Oh well...maybe the commanders had better things to do!!!

Perhaps Indian said to Pak commander that you beheaded our guy and we will retaliate, Pak said no we didn't and if you retaliate, then we will give response. And all hell breaks lose!!!

So is India going to start and air raid against us as said by the high and mighty air chief?

 

[ares]

Oh I am sorry ! All these talks of ' considering other options ' and ' retaliation ' and ' replying at a place of our choosing ' are peaceful statements .... Right ? ... The same cautionary note would have conveyed by the Pakistani delegation to the IA commanders , tell me something new ... OR bother to look at the news of aggressive Indian brigadier starting all the mess ...

You swing between two extremities..'peace' or 'war'..whereas India side is talking about retaliation in case of further provocation.

'Something new' for you would be..now that both sides know each other's position, which ever side is looking for escalation will initiate the next round of hostilities.

Then there's no need for any dialogue ... Why waste time and money ?

Dialogue was made necessary for Pakistani insistence on it, for many years(through out 90s) Indians avoided dialogue on Kashmir..because we realize, a common ground can not be achieved as far as Kashmir is concerned. And our position on Kashmir has not changed.

Our position is clear , only the Kashmiris can decide whether they want to be with Pakistan , India or establish an independent state ... We are ready to give up the land we conquered back in '47 if the Kashmiris demand it anywhere and anytime loosing all the strategic value and land itself ... When has Pakistan threatened you of war ?

Is that your personal opinion or the official stand of your country? If its your personal opinion, then no problem however it is your official position then I would need some proof to support the above.

 

[Jango]

Your emotional rehtoric aside . Indeed the mother and family of the slain soldier can identify his body ONLY if they are shown the body even without a head.

here the case is different the Indian govt/army refused to show the remains to the family.





Jai Singh, the martyr’s brother, who is also on a hunger strike, also sounded a note of doubt. “What was brought to us was a body covered in white sheet. Now it could be anyone’s body. We were not allowed to see what was inside,” he said, highlighting that he has spent his childhood with Hemraj and knew that he had a mole on the back.

“I would have checked it but they didn’t allow me to do that,” he added.


The Hindu : States / Other States : Soldier

Busted.

They didn't even let the family see the body???

So this is effectively hiding the body. Couple this with no independent claims and the refusal of impartial third party investigation, you get a fair hint that who is lying!!!