Indian Air Force Loses Front-Line Sukhoi Jet, Helicopter in Two Accidents

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

When we start Mortar fire you BRING out the NUKES
And RUN to UN security council

Every few days you indulge in Nuclear blackmail

That is the level of your confidence and strength

Just admit it ; Nukes are the ONLY defence you have

you have ballistic missile defence system. Also cold start dotarine to start and finish the war before we get time to do something. Then why wait????????????

 

[Stephen Cohen]

you have ballistic missile defence system. Also cold start dotarine to start and finish the war before we get time to do something. Then why wait????????????

One day we WILL go to war ; we both know that

Just a matter of time

 

[doe33]

In fact most of your claims are always full of BS.
The IAF is merely a quantity force that has to tell lies even about an exercise.
Does the IAF even has the confidence to do this over the Capital even in a twin engine jet. LoL.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=262442814203554

And you tell so much truths like this one or the recent one revolving around forum..
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/raf-eurofighter-typhoons-beaten-by-pakistani-f-16s.113890/

There is no meaning to post such videos for self fulfillment..

 

[Stephen Cohen]

In fact most of your claims are always full of BS.
The IAF is merely a quantity force that has to tell lies even about an exercise.
Does the IAF even has the confidence to do this over the Capital even in a twin engine jet. LoL.

Let me repeat this once again

PAF is NOTHING in front of IAF ;

We have seen that everytime in last several years
when you had the US and China to come to your aid
when ever there is a little bit of tension

That is why you are Getting so much pleasure
when we Lost just One plane after One and Half years

All planes including F 22 have crashed ; no big deal

When you are able to do 300 Flying hours in a Year ; then talk

Su 30 has exercised with ALL the top fighters including
F 22 ; F 16 ; F 15 ; Rafale and Eurofighter

You are JEALOUS of IAF and SU 30 ; that is a hard fact

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Silly that you got offended to report my post...
Re bhai see the number of your jets in air force to ours...
Still in 2017 you operate 1/3 no of F16s compared to our MKIs..I am sure number wasn't higher in 1986 or 1989...Don't give idiotic logic..

http://www.indiaspend.com/cover-story/20-iaf-planes-are-crashing-every-year-46732

http://www.firstpost.com/india/30-i...s-says-defence-minister-parrikar-1821309.html
50 in last 4 years.

Congratz you destroyed PAF in numbers in just 23 years without fighting a war.

I think Indian airforce needs serious work out.

Let me repeat this once again

PAF is NOTHING in front of IAF ;

We have seen that everytime in last several years
when you had the US and China to come to your aid
when ever there is a little bit of tension

That is why you are Getting so much pleasure
when we Lost just One plane after One and Half years

All planes including F 22 have crashed ; no big deal

When you are able to do 300 Flying hours in a Year ; then talk

Su 30 has exercised with ALL the top fighters including
F 22 ; F 16 ; F 15 ; Rafale and Eurofighter

You are JEALOUS of IAF and SU 30 ; that is a hard fact

Exercises made your SU 30 MKI supa pawa.We surrender.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

One day we WILL go to war ; we both know that

Just a matter of time

It will be the end this time. No more 1000 years of rule. We are bore of that now.

And you need to wake up and see the facts

If you dont know about India's strength ; ASK ISI

You will be shocked to know India's Real strength

They say that indian airforce is just compatible.
But there must be a reason that your military can't start a war. Why not ask them.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

.We surrender.

You have already lost Five conflicts and Wars
What more do you want

1947 ; 1965; 1971 ; 1999 Kargil and Siachen

And EVERYTIME when you threaten to use Nukes ;
you are just ADMITTING your weaknesses

 

[friendly_troll96]

since paks are being thought of as doing so anyway, i might as well actually celebrate it.
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[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

You have already lost Five conflicts and Wars
What more do you want

1947 ; 1965; 1971 ; 1999 Kargil and Siachen

And EVERYTIME when you threaten to use Nukes ;
you are just ADMITTING your weaknesses

Really??????
We believe you.
But who begged UN for cease fire in 48,65.
who wrote letters to US for cease fire and threatening all out military and nuclear wars in kargil.
And siachin was not a war. India broke simla aggreement and captured empty Pakistani land.
We lost 71. We admit it. Bu do you have the same guts or just cursing Nehru and co will make you victorious.

Wrong again, we have little or no shortage of officers in IAF.

IAF plane to pilot ratio is 1:0.8. Plz gift us the 20 percent without pilots.
1:1 for helicopters and 1:1.5 for transport aircrafts.
Which make it half threatening than it's real size. So indians should first know, observe and realize the ground realities. But i hopw hanuman pilots and technicians will manage the situation. Imagine hanuman pilot flying two aircrafts at a time confusing enemy about the plane with real pilot.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indian-air-force-iaf-aircraft/1/642492.html
thediplomat.com/2015/04/the-indian-air-forces-big-problem-not-enough-pilots/

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Really??????
We believe you.
But who begged UN for cease fire in 48,65.
who wrote letters to US for cease fire and threatening all out military and nuclear wars in kargil.
And siachin was not a war. India broke simla aggreement and captured empty Pakistani land.
We lost 71. We admit it. Bu do you have the same guts or just cursing Nehru and co will make you victorious.

You are fully entitled to live in your World of Delusions and Denials

who cares

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

You are fully entitled to live in your World of Delusions and Denials

who cares

delusions are actually realities which are diffcult for you to accept because of false pride leading to defend a history which cannot be changed or defended.

 

[Windjammer]

only windjammer can come up with a lame theory of better pilots cause they fly over some building!!!

Comprehension issues, there's a reason your single engine don't participate in your republic day fly past....yea there are buildings and people.

 

[doe33]

delusions are actually realities which are diffcult for you to accept because of false pride leading to defend a history which cannot be changed or defended.

The IAF is one of the few air forces in the world that conducts intense year round training.IAF trains for a high intensity high stakes conflict. Keeping in mind the possibility of a two-front war the IAF puts its pilots and aircraft through the wringer.
Such training places a great deal of stress on aircraft, pilots and air crews, which means potentially more accidents. But that’s the way the IAF trains for war.Number of sorties,work hours are also higher than most air craft in the region..
Those are operated in huge number & in triple number to Pakistani aircrafts...

Yea but the reason is also maintenance & we are improving it day by day learning from past..Now MKI operates with 60 % home made spares..MIG 21 was once called death coffin due to lack of maintenance & serviceability rate..We have retired almost all Mig 21s & 27s....

Most of the reasons were nothing but spares...

Crash No.1: 30 April 2009

The first ever Su-30MKI crashes in the Pokhran region, Rajasthan. The IAF’s Court of Inquiry establishes Wing Commander Vishwas Munje mistakenly switched off the warplane’s fly-by-wire system.

Crash No.2: 30 November 2009

Sukhoi crashes near Jaisalmer, Rajasthan, after a fire warning. An IAF investigation attributes it to accidental ingestion of a foreign object in the engine intake.

Crash No.3: 13 December 2011

Aircraft crashes 20 km from Pune. IAF says the crash is due to a malfunction in the fly-by-wire system.

Crash No.4: 19 February 2013

Aircraft’s right wing explodes over Pokhran, shortly after completing a training mission.

Crash No.5: 14 October 2013

Fly-by-wire system malfunctions yet again and the Sukhoi goes down near Pune. Russian experts blame pilot error but the IAF says the Court of Inquiry is yet to pinpoint exact reason.

Crash No.6: 19 May 2015

Su-30MKI flying from Tezpur in Assam develops a technical snag and the pilot is forced to abandon the aircraft. Cause is yet to be established.

Now that you have a good idea of what exactly happened in those six crashes, let’s look at the possible reasons why jet fighters crash in India.

About delusions,
You failed to take Kashmir...

 

[Windjammer]

Let me repeat this once again

PAF is NOTHING in front of IAF ;

We have seen that everytime in last several years
when you had the US and China to come to your aid
when ever there is a little bit of tension

That is why you are Getting so much pleasure
when we Lost just One plane after One and Half years

All planes including F 22 have crashed ; no big deal

When you are able to do 300 Flying hours in a Year ; then talk

Su 30 has exercised with ALL the top fighters including
F 22 ; F 16 ; F 15 ; Rafale and Eurofighter

You are JEALOUS of IAF and SU 30 ; that is a hard fact

Let me one again burst your bubble fan boy.
There's no fire in your Agni Pankh, hence the reason it has no appetite to fight.
The best it can do is carry out operations within own territory or shoot down balloons.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

The IAF is one of the few air forces in the world that conducts intense year round training.IAF trains for a high intensity high stakes conflict. Keeping in mind the possibility of a two-front war the IAF puts its pilots and aircraft through the wringer.
Such training places a great deal of stress on aircraft, pilots and air crews, which means potentially more accidents. But that’s the way the IAF trains for war.Number of sorties,work hours are also higher than most air craft in the region..
Those are operated in huge number & in triple number to Pakistani aircrafts...

Yea but the reason is also maintenance & we are improving it day by day learning from past..Now MKI operates with 60 % home made spares..MIG 21 was once called death coffin due to lack of maintenance & serviceability rate..We have retired almost all Mig 21s & 27s....

Most of the reasons were nothing but spares...

Crash No.1: 30 April 2009

The first ever Su-30MKI crashes in the Pokhran region, Rajasthan. The IAF’s Court of Inquiry establishes Wing Commander Vishwas Munje mistakenly switched off the warplane’s fly-by-wire system.

Crash No.2: 30 November 2009

Sukhoi crashes near Jaisalmer, Rajasthan, after a fire warning. An IAF investigation attributes it to accidental ingestion of a foreign object in the engine intake.

Crash No.3: 13 December 2011

Aircraft crashes 20 km from Pune. IAF says the crash is due to a malfunction in the fly-by-wire system.

Crash No.4: 19 February 2013

Aircraft’s right wing explodes over Pokhran, shortly after completing a training mission.

Crash No.5: 14 October 2013

Fly-by-wire system malfunctions yet again and the Sukhoi goes down near Pune. Russian experts blame pilot error but the IAF says the Court of Inquiry is yet to pinpoint exact reason.

Crash No.6: 19 May 2015

Su-30MKI flying from Tezpur in Assam develops a technical snag and the pilot is forced to abandon the aircraft. Cause is yet to be established.

Now that you have a good idea of what exactly happened in those six crashes, let’s look at the possible reasons why jet fighters crash in India.

About delusions,
You failed to take Kashmir...

About training even if indian airforce pilots are best trained in the world but indiahave very fw pilots which mill make it in efficient incase of any war. A pilot can do few hours sorties in a day Who will fly plane when the pilot is tired????? Point to ponder.

I visited one in our control just recently. Would have visited srinager but nehru beg for mercy at UN.