India transshipment facilities need to be reviewed

[asad71]

1.This is not "transshipment" but "corridor". A patriotic govt must scrap this totally, and then negotiate a new deal securing our interest.
2. Meanwhile we must internationalize India's water piracy. All international forums must be apprised of India's unilateral withdrawl of waters from ALL rivers upstream

Bangladesh should not have any transshipment or corridor for india, period. This is not only about economics, there are security, strategic and whole host of other issues involved. Only when NE status changes connectivity is viable option. Anyone toying otherwise is just being indian pawn.

The entire Indian exercise is designed at steamrolling NE FFs.

 

[mb444]

1st - india used "Transshipment was the right descisions" type of people (daily star, prothom alo, Sobhan family etc.) to create false public perception and get the primary treaty done.
2nd - india used its infiltration in administration to propose low transport fees and then used Hasina's advisor like Moshiur Rahman to get free transit.
3rd - india impose tariff and non tariff barriers on Bangladesh export.

india is not a normal country, it is country which does not want existence of Bangladesh as independent country. There is no real economic value providing indian with transshipment, period. Transshipment should not be provided to india for security, strategic and for economic reasons and whole host of other reasons.

It is because of people who says "Transshipment was the right descisions", not only Bangladeshi business are suffering now but also Bangladesh security, ecology, river and livelihood of Bangladeshi people are and will suffer. So, if you have not realized, you are class one indian pawn and directly contributing to Bangladesh sufferings.

I see a globalised and economically connected world.

I understand fully your concerns. I am fully for charging India the correct price for transit and as I have suggested reverse punitive taxation regime.

You may have a point vis-a-vis security but surely that is for our security service to safeguard. However given current illegal BAL government that maybe difficult.

I am economically liberal minded and will disagree with you on the point of economics. Obviously if cost benefit analysis suggests transshipment is not profitable then by all means it should be stopped. However I would suggest that this would be the only instance in the world where transshipment was an economically unsound descision.

Security may trump economics.... I will grant you that.

 

[idune]

I see a globalised and economically connected world.

I understand fully your concerns. I am fully for charging India the correct price for transit and as I have suggested reverse punitive taxation regime.

You may have a point vis-a-vis security but surely that is for our security service to safeguard. However given current illegal BAL government that maybe difficult.

I am economically liberal minded and will disagree with you on the point of economics. Obviously if cost benefit analysis suggests transshipment is not profitable then by all means it should be stopped. However I would suggest that this would be the only instance in the world where transshipment was an economically unsound descision.

Security may trump economics.... I will grant you that.

Corridor/transshipment to india is not matter of economics. It is matter of strategic and national security importance which trump couple millions here and there. As you clearly stated your position - you are another of indian pawn just using "connected world" as cover to pursue indian interest. Connected world only relevant where strategic and national security are not concern.

 

[mb444]

Corridor/transshipment to india is not matter of economics. It is matter of strategic and national security importance which trump couple millions here and there. As you clearly stated your position - you are another of indian pawn just using "connected world" as cover to pursue indian interest. Connected world only relevant where strategic and national security are not concern.

You are free to have your views. But I am most certainly not pro-Indian or Pro-BAL in any circumstances. It is a shame you have not recognised my consistent positioning over the years.

It is not a problem, we are a passionate and patriotic people.

 

[my2cents]

Security may trump economics.... I will grant you that.

Actually if you see the posts of BDians on PDF "insecurity triumphs common sense".

 

[mb444]

Actually if you see the posts of BDians on PDF "insecurity triumphs common sense".

Not a condition exclusive to Bangladeshis and also not without cause.

India and Indians are hedgemonistic, the reaction is perfectly natural one.

Whilst I generally consider economy the number one priority Idunes position that security should be the primary consideration is equally valid. This is particularly so as he has provided research which states that cost outweighs benefits accross security, economy and environment.

Under those circumstances transshipment should be halted unless India makes concessions to make it a win win situation for all.

 

[my2cents]

Not a condition exclusive to Bangladeshis and also not without cause.

India and Indians are hedgemonistic, the reaction is perfectly natural one.

Whilst I generally consider economy the number one priority Idunes position that security should be the primary consideration is equally valid. This is particularly so as he has provided research which states that cost outweighs benefits accross security, economy and environment.

Under those circumstances transshipment should be halted unless India makes concessions to make it a win win situation for all.

There are some basic assumptions that we need to set right when we are talking about transhipment of goods through a unfriendly(ungrateful) country.

1. You cannot equate transhipment as a tool to settle bilateral disputes.
2. Amount of goods transported through siliguri corridor should not determine the amount of transhipment through BD.
3. Transhipment route through BD should not be used as a tradable goods.
4. transit facilities provided is bound by some terms and conditions and we are aware that it can be revoked any time;
5 Requesting transit facilities does not equate demand for corridor. We don't have land rights like in a corridor.


Bottom line is not to politicise the connectivity with bilateral issues.

 

[idune]

There are some basic assumptions that we need to set right when we are talking about transhipment of goods through a unfriendly(ungrateful) country.

1. You cannot equate transhipment as a tool to settle bilateral disputes.
2. Amount of goods transported through siliguri corridor should not determine the amount of transhipment through BD.
3. Transhipment route through BD should not be used as a tradable goods.
4. transit facilities provided is bound by some terms and conditions and we are aware that it can be revoked any time;
5 Requesting transit facilities does not equate demand for corridor. We don't have land rights like in a corridor.


Bottom line is not to politicise the connectivity with bilateral issues.

It is india that is SEEKING transshipment and Bangladesh GRANTING transshipment. It is Bangladesh prerogative IF and HOW this should be handled. india is in NO POSITION to set conditions how and what is important in the consideration. Fundamental issue is, indians do not recognize Bangladesh under awami league regime, as a sovereign country, that is why indians saying doing things like above.

 

[Luffy 500]

Does Indian constitution allow that?

 

[my2cents]

It is india that is SEEKING transshipment and Bangladesh GRANTING transshipment. It is Bangladesh prerogative IF and HOW this should be handled. india is in NO POSITION to set conditions how and what is important in the consideration. Fundamental issue is, indians do not recognize Bangladesh under awami league regime, as a sovereign country, that is why indians saying doing things like above.

You have to understand that we are providing the same transit facilities that you were seeking for Bhutan and Nepal. So what is good for us is reciprocated in kind. Your assumption is contradicted by the fence that separates us.

 

[mb444]

There are some basic assumptions that we need to set right when we are talking about transhipment of goods through a unfriendly(ungrateful) country.

1. You cannot equate transhipment as a tool to settle bilateral disputes.
2. Amount of goods transported through siliguri corridor should not determine the amount of transhipment through BD.
3. Transhipment route through BD should not be used as a tradable goods.
4. transit facilities provided is bound by some terms and conditions and we are aware that it can be revoked any time;
5 Requesting transit facilities does not equate demand for corridor. We don't have land rights like in a corridor.


Bottom line is not to politicise the connectivity with bilateral issues.

That all kind of sounds somewhat selfserving. Transshipment is not a right it's a privilege to be payed for.

I am not remotely dogmatic politically but I would not support transshipment unless it serves BD interest. There is no free lunch.

You have to understand that we are providing the same transit facilities that you were seeking for Bhutan and Nepal. So what is good for us is reciprocated in kind. Your assumption is contradicted by the fence that separates us.

First you have not provided the same facility, access is erratic.

Secondly the volume of traffic is not the same. In essence transshipment must be benificial for BD. It should be a win win for both country. In line what I always say unless it benefits BD then it should stop immediately.

 

[my2cents]

That all kind of sounds somewhat selfserving. Transshipment is not a right it's a privilege to be payed for.

I am not remotely dogmatic politically but I would not support transshipment unless it serves BD interest. There is no free lunch.

First you have not provided the same facility, access is erratic.

Secondly the volume of traffic is not the same. In essence transshipment must be benificial for BD. It should be a win win for both country. In line what I always say unless it benefits BD then it should stop immediately.

We are paying for the privilege and according the same privilege in kind. The volume is not same because of paucity of your export basket. I do not deny the access is erratic but will be improved when the volume of trade increases. We are partially paying for the transit facilities in BD like road building, river dredging etc to facilitate trade and remove any bottlenecks.

 

[M_Saint]

You are free to have your views. But I am most certainly not pro-Indian or Pro-BAL in any circumstances. It is a shame you have not recognised my consistent positioning over the years.

It is not a problem, we are a passionate and patriotic people.

Idune Bhai, mb444 is definitely not an India's Dalal but has some misconceptions about regional Geo-Political issues, IMO.

And mb444 Bhai/Boon, please note that Hasina isn't master of the art of BS but India is. She is like an Indian robot but possesses instinct of cunning and heinous ness. And she isn't only a revengeful politician but also a non ethical to the core. OTH, Jamaaties aren't politicians but complete ethicals, IMO.

 

[Lotus_stalk]

I don't know why Bangladeshis are hell bent on viewing every India related news negatively... my only advice is please try to see things with a balanced perspective... please read only reputable newspaper

 

[Nilgiri]

Jamaaties aren't politicians but complete ethicals, IMO.

Yah they ethically culled your people in 1971.....and you ethically are hanging their leaders now because of that.

Under those circumstances transshipment should be halted unless India makes concessions to make it a win win situation for all.

No concessions will be made by India, and the transhipments will continue. Nobody on either side will review it, the agreement has been reached and is in operation. SHW knows not to bite the hand that feeds her. Enjoy and get behind SHW administration and if you don't/can't...work to change it. Stop dragging India into everything, it is our imperative to get the best deals possible for our country....we aren't giving any more of such freebies and largesse to such a country as BD. That era is well past us.