India to buy 60-63 Rafales jets off the shelf from France; MMRCA deal off:

[Screambowl]

any Idea about the deadline for the procurement of these 36 rafales?

 

[Indo-guy]

That vehicle was stuck up

The IAF was paying the price

anyway proof of the pooding is in eating ...

let us see how Modi govt negotiates and concludes the MMRCA and how Dassault comes onboard ....

I will be only happy if you are vindicated !

 

[Engineer Paad]

Very true, that's why it would be pretty embarrassing if the government took this commitment just for the photo opp now, while the negotiations on the actual deal goes on. So either they cleared the pending issues with Dassault and didn't announced it till the contract is fixed, or they created a whole new mess as said above. Let's see what details will follow to see where we actually stand now.

What all Congress headquarter has released for today ? 10 years and they slept keeping it under their arse and when someone is doing something you shameless creatures got the audacity to question..Nothing new, some people follow foolishness of their ancestors.

He's a false flagger.

Rahul Gandhi is my God..Now you believe my loyalty lies with India and to be specific with Congress..I read Rahul mantra every morning when I wake up

 

[Stephen Cohen]

As per the The ORIGINAL RFP ; Dassault would have given 18 planes in THREE years

THEN HAL would have started off by making just SIX PLANES a year
followed by 8 the next year ; 10 in the third year and then 12 per year

SO WHO WOULD have suffered only the IAF

Now 36 will be ready in FOUR years

 

[Gandhi follower]

 

[K M Cariappa]

India to buy 36 Rafale "ready to fly" on France

An agreement between France and India for the sale of 36 Rafale was announced Friday.

France and India have signed an agreement to buy 36 Rafale as soon as possible, two squadrons. This announcement was made at the Elysee by the Indian Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, in the presence of President Francois Hollande. Trading on the sale of 126 Rafale provided in the MMRCA contract will continue.When Narendra Modi arrived in France, the Indian newspaper The Hindustan Times already said that New Delhi was considering "seriously buying up to 40 Rafale" because of " operational requirements " .

"I asked the president (Hollande) supply 36 Rafale ready to fly to India," said Narendra Modi at a joint press conference with the head of the French state. The Prime Minister, speaking in Hindi, said that the terms and conditions of the contract were not finalized."Our officials will discuss these issues in more detail and continue negotiations," he said, according to the translation of his speech.

Concretely, New Delhi and Dassault Aviation will have in the coming months to finalize the financial and legal contract negotiation. In this context, the Minister of Defence, Jean-Yves Le Drian, quickly visit India for this purpose, said Francois Hollande. Dassault Aviation, which provides the Indian Air Force for over sixty years, "was honored by the continued confidence of the Indian government and welcomes its intention to complete a purchase of 36 Rafale to conditions that will quickly meet the security needs of India " , said the aircraft manufacturer said in a statement Friday.

Further negotiations on the 126 Rafale
It's an amazing flashback . In February 2007, Dassault Aviation, who did not believe in the tender for 126 combat aircraft, had given the sidelines of the Aero India exhibition in Bangalore, the Indian Ministry of Defense an unsolicited offer for the sale OTC 40 Rafale.Eight years later, the story seems to stutter. Francois Hollande told a few hours of his meeting with Elisha with Indian Prime Minister that he hoped "put" on the back of the sale of Rafale fighter jets to India while Narendra Modi said that the France and India "should be able to move forward on mutually acceptable bases" on the occasion of his visit to France.

This agreement is separated into exclusive negotiations started three years ago for the delivery of 126 Rafale in New Delhi, of which 108 were to be manufactured in India.Negotiations have been ongoing for more than three years to overcome differences relating inter alia to the price and responsibility on the devices. The French aircraft had been preferred to the Eurofighter Typhoon of the European consortium. The highly technical negotiations with a massive transfer of technologies still last. Paris and New Delhi have also agreed on the continuation of work on technology transfer in India.

http:// http://www.latribune.fr/ent...ait-acheter-40-rafale-a-la-france-468100.html
http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/aeronautique-defense/l-inde-pourrait-acheter-40-rafale-a-la-france-468100.html

 

[magudi]

We were to get 18 planes WITHIN THREE years of signing the deal

Now we can get 36 in FOUR YEARS

That doesn't really matter

We lost our Bargaining power.

We were in driving seat till now

Now Dassault has thrown us into the back seat and they've taken over the driving

One of the worst procurement decision by a government in my lifetime

 

[ranjeet]

He's a false flagger.

Sab milay hue hai ji

 

[nair]

That doesn't really matter

We lost our Bargaining power.

We were in driving seat till now

Now Dassault has thrown us into the back seat and they've taken over the driving

One of the worst procurement decision by a government in my lifetime

Not really.... We are still looking for another 108 fighters.........

 

[PARIKRAMA]

[URL='https://twitter.com/thaparvishal']Vishal Thapar @thaparvishal [/URL]· 2m2 minutes ago
To sum up: India importing 36 Rafale fighters to commit itself to the larger deal for 126 Rafales, and possibly 63 follow-ons

Vishal Thapar @thaparvishal · 59s59 seconds ago
6/n Import of 36 Rafale justified on ground of "critical operational necessity". Quick delivery likely in time frame compatible with op reqt

Vishal Thapar @thaparvishal · 4m4 minutes ago
5/n India expresses commitment to "separate process underway" for acquiring 126 Rafale fighters, while ordering import of 36 as a precursor

Vishal Thapar @thaparvishal · 5m5 minutes ago
4/n France to deliver 36 fly-away Rafales in the same configuration as the one offered in the IAF tender for 126 fighters, with same weapons

Vishal Thapar @thaparvishal · 7m7 minutes ago
3/n Imported Rafale fighters to cost less than price quoted by Dassault in tender for 126 fighters, govt to govt deal to facilitate import

Vishal Thapar @thaparvishal · 9m9 minutes ago
2/n India commits itself to the French Rafale,sets speculation to rest:Import of 36 Rafale fighters recursor to larger deal for 126 fighters

Vishal Thapar @thaparvishal · 11m11 minutes ago
India's decision to import 36 Rafale fighters in fly away condition a reassurance to France that its committed to tender for 126 Rafales 1/n

 

[ito]

So at last Rafale is going to fly Indian colors.

 

[anant_s]

what was the need to get so desperate ?

I'm not sure how long would one want to make IAF wait. See even now when if deal is signed tonight, it will take at least 36 months for deliveries to begin and given how long MMRCA negotiations are going on, u can imagine things would start looking desperate for IAF beyond 2018.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Sab milay hue hai ji

I've seen him with flags of 'biradar mulk'

 

[Stephen Cohen]

That doesn't really matter

We lost our Bargaining power.

We were in driving seat till now

Now Dassault has thrown us into the back seat and they've taken over the driving

One of the worst procurement decision by a government in my lifetime

Relax your fears are BASELESS

We are not dealing with China

India France relationship has been very good

There is NO REASON why we cannot trust them

Such deals are about trust and good faith

 

[Indo-guy]

As per the The ORIGINAL RFP ; Dassault would have given 18 planes in THREE years

THEN HAL would have started off by making just SIX PLANES a year
followed by 8 the next year ; 10 in the third year and then 12 per year

SO WHO WOULD have suffered only the IAF

Now 36 will be ready in FOUR years

Yes what you are saying is true ...and no doubt that having more jets in fly away condition is good for IAF which is finding itself in terrible situation due to number crunch .

the argument is why this was not done within confines of MMRCA...but outside it .

If we had concluded MMRCA and ordered more Rafale in fly away condition then what you say would have had made sense....

You see due to this deal there is possibility that MMRCA may get delayed due to hard bargaining from Dssault ( they have nothing to lose from that ...)