India to buy 60-63 Rafales jets off the shelf from France; MMRCA deal off:

[Indo-guy]

30

is that the number of your teeth ?

what happened to ' wisdom ' teeth ? LOL

 

[Manindra]

And do you expect USA/Boeing to give state of the art version to India??

F-18 SH IN are not strip down.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Or 189 (63+ 126)

I have a sinking feeling. SOmetimes things are too good to be true. The higher probability will be to get a lameduck deal.

 

[Manindra]

You mean LM 2500 gas turbine engines? Only Shivalik class frigates use them as of now - manufactured by HAL. As for the future - no one can be sure - the MMRCA deal until now was supposed to be 126 fighter deal - now its 63.



If there would have been anything fishy - the CAG would have taken a note of it as it usually does.

HAL just assemle from CKD kits and we use those engine in IAC-1, EMALS & their fighter wing, ASW helicopters .

 

[Abingdonboy]

They don't make public that which criteria they disqualify F-18 except engine start in Leh. Rest you can guess.

The IAF want the best plane for themselves, this is a safe assumption I'm sure you could agree. They don't care too much about ToT or "the bigger picture" and the decision to down select the Rafale and EFT was made based on the IAF's recommendations based on their technical analysis of all 6 products. As such I say that the notion the F-18 was eliminated purely because ToT was an issue is a pure fallacy there were more fundamental issues with the F-18 itself and the IAF saw the more modern "Eurocanards" as more attractive offers.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

I have a sinking feeling. SOmetimes things are too good to be true. The higher probability will be to get a lameduck deal.

Keep calm and trust MODI

 

[Abingdonboy]

Oh boy! More fun news on the Rafale:

Swamy Threatens 'Legal Recourse' If Govt Goes Ahead With Rafale Deal



BJP leader Subramanian Swamy today threatened to take legal recourse if government went ahead with Rafale jet deal with France, saying there were shortcomings in the fighter aircraft.

Swamy, National Executive member of the party, requested Prime Minister Narendra Modi not to go ahead with the Rafale deal, which was negotiated by the previous UPA government, and said the performance of the French jet "turned out to be worst of all the aircraft" in Libya and Egypt.

Modi is currently in France and will hold comprehensive talks with the French leadership during which the Rafale deal is likely to figure.

"There are two major issues with the Rafale Aircraft deal which would embarrass the BJP government. The first is that Rafale is less fuel efficient aircraft and lacking in essential performance characteristic that no country in the world has agreed to buy these aircraft," Swamy said in a statement.

"If the Prime Minister for some other 'compulsion' decides to go ahead with the deal, I will have no option but to approach the court in PIL to get it set aside," he said.

The statement further said that some countries have cancelled contract after signing an MoU with Dassault.

"It is a fact that Dassault will go bankrupt if no country buys the Rafale and we want to oblige the French goodwill, it is better to buy Dassault itself rather than their planes as it will be more beneficial," the leader added.

Rafale was selected by India from among five bidders in 2012 since it was the lowest bidder.

While initially, the deal was expected to be around USD 10 billion, it is now estimated to be over USD 20 billion.

Swamy Threatens 'Legal Recourse' If Govt Goes Ahead With Rafale Deal

What an utter utter clown, Modi has got to be sick of these fools within his own party getting in the way of his own agenda and the greater good.

 

[Manindra]

The IAF want the best plane for themselves, this is a safe assumption I'm sure you could agree. They don't care too much about ToT or "the bigger picture" and the decision to down select the Rafale and EFT was made based on the IAF's recommendations based on their technical analysis of all 6 products. As such I say that the notion the F-18 was eliminated purely because ToT was an issue is a pure fallacy there were more fundamental issues with the F-18 itself and the IAF saw the more modern "Eurocanards" as more attractive offers.

With twice price of F-18 for slightly better performance ?

 

[Bang Galore]

What an utter utter clown, Modi has got to be sick of these fools within his own party getting in the way of his own agenda and the greater good.

This movie has everything - love, dejection, anger,betrayal, hope...., there has to be a place for some humour somewhere.

 

[Pichkari]

My sources say that deal done for 63 aircrafts. Old one srapped.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Oh boy! More fun news on the Rafale:

Swamy Threatens 'Legal Recourse' If Govt Goes Ahead With Rafale Deal



BJP leader Subramanian Swamy today threatened to take legal recourse if government went ahead with Rafale jet deal with France, saying there were shortcomings in the fighter aircraft.

Swamy, National Executive member of the party, requested Prime Minister Narendra Modi not to go ahead with the Rafale deal, which was negotiated by the previous UPA government, and said the performance of the French jet "turned out to be worst of all the aircraft" in Libya and Egypt.

Modi is currently in France and will hold comprehensive talks with the French leadership during which the Rafale deal is likely to figure.

"There are two major issues with the Rafale Aircraft deal which would embarrass the BJP government. The first is that Rafale is less fuel efficient aircraft and lacking in essential performance characteristic that no country in the world has agreed to buy these aircraft," Swamy said in a statement.

"If the Prime Minister for some other 'compulsion' decides to go ahead with the deal, I will have no option but to approach the court in PIL to get it set aside," he said.

The statement further said that some countries have cancelled contract after signing an MoU with Dassault.

"It is a fact that Dassault will go bankrupt if no country buys the Rafale and we want to oblige the French goodwill, it is better to buy Dassault itself rather than their planes as it will be more beneficial," the leader added.

Rafale was selected by India from among five bidders in 2012 since it was the lowest bidder.

While initially, the deal was expected to be around USD 10 billion, it is now estimated to be over USD 20 billion.

Swamy Threatens 'Legal Recourse' If Govt Goes Ahead With Rafale Deal

I had told you guys that Swami will now start attacking Modi. Didn't take long . Obviously another prediction that the Bhakt didn't like but is bang on
Subramanian Swamy launches Hindutva outfit

@Bang Galore @Abingdonboy @Screambowl

My sources say that deal done for 63 aircrafts. Old one srapped.

You mean TOTAL only 63? Or 63 + 126?

 

[Pichkari]

I had told you guys that Swami will now start attacking Modi. Didn't take long . Obviously another prediction that the Bhakt didn't like but is bang on
Subramanian Swamy launches Hindutva outfit



You mean TOTAL only 63? Or 63 + 126?

63 bhai.
The french were like "ITne poise mein itna hi milta hai ".

 

[Guynextdoor2]

63 bhai.
The french were like "ITne poise mein itna hi milta hai ".

Please let this not be true. We desperately need them jets.

 

[mad_max]

Please let this not be true. We desperately need them jets.

No money No honey

 

[Guynextdoor2]

No money No honey

There is money for this one.